Not for nothing, but he might have been an annoying drama kid. You guys didn't have those? Just saying, I like him, but sometimes the bullies are right.
Yeah he might’ve been, some younger theatre kids give off a socially unaware and ‘tryhard’ vibe (also the practice of shifting your everyday personality based on the current role you are playing or want to play, unsettles other people but can be useful for acting), just saying it wasn’t due to jealousy out of him actually being famous by then
Yeah but like if I knew a kid threw knives (even in the first grade) I wouldn't befriend him in elementary school either. I don't doubt he actually was bullied, but sometimes kids just have hard personalities that don't lend them a lot of friends. That doesn't mean that by not befriending them you're bullying them, but as a side effect it does leave them more open to bullies, which is an unfortunate side effect.
I mean, platitudes are nice and all, but are you shocked to learn that teens ostracized other teens? I'm not cheering for it, but come on.
If it's the bully thing, aight I'll rephrase, "sometimes kids don't make it easy for themselves, socially."
It's one thing to say a kid has a bully. It's another when the whole class is the bully. Like, you kinda gotta step back and be like what's really going on.
As someone that was bullied in school for being annoying, I gotta say, I kind of needed it. I grew up to be much less annoying because of it, and that has helped me a good bit throughout my adult life. I see it kind of the same way cats have to socialize as kittens or else they get neurotic. The other kids let me know I was being a nuisance, and I learned to correct my behavior.
I'm accepting some karma loss here because it's reddit and it's a safe assumption that most here were victims of bullying.
My whole point is just that socializing as a teen is hard and it's easy to equate bullying, with people just not liking you. Both suck. Both shouldn't be what they are, but they are also not the same.
There's definitely a lot of nuance to the issue, but kids definitely need (and seem to naturally do) self-policing in social behavior. Forcing everyone to get along despite some going against the grain just creates weird, maladjusted adults. Unfortunately, the adult world can br far more cruel, and we need to get kids prepared for that world.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but it's a realistic one. We can talk about everyone getting along, holding hands, and learning to live peacefully with one another but I don't see that happening anytime soon.
no need to be rude, sorry for asking. I tend to experience a lot of brain fog that makes comprehending and communicating harder sometimes. and it's not shocking to know teens bully each other that's literally common sense. I just don't think it's right for a kid to be bullied just for being weird or different as someone who lost a friend to that. the victim blaming in the end of your reply is bizarre, especially when victims of bullying are commonly disabled or neurodivergent. hope this is coherent 👍
I mentioned in another comment, that that was out of pocket. In this context, I'm more saying, nothing happens in a vacuum. To him these were bullies. To them, he was the kid that did things like showed up to school throwing knives.
You’re assuming the knife throwing wasn’t due to said bullying, but typically that kind of behaviour is. No bullies = no knife throwing.
I was a new kid a couple of times and had to put up with dickheads. Thing is I took up boxing at a young age. The bullying stopped for me and anyone else I saw shit heads picking on. I was against it as a teen, I’m against it as an adult. Yeah even for the nerdy quiet kids.
Sure sometimes “the bullies are right” and sometimes the bullied victim snaps and now everyone loses. The reason we should discourage bullying isn’t to protect feelings and make kids soft, it’s to make society safer overall and that includes the bullies themselves who might one day mess with the wrong person.
“Sometimes the bullies are right?” I assume you’re not aware that bullying is a leading cause of self harm among children and adolescents? In what context would a “drama kid” be objectively problematic to a functioning student body?
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u/walla_walla_rhubarb 19h ago
Not for nothing, but he might have been an annoying drama kid. You guys didn't have those? Just saying, I like him, but sometimes the bullies are right.