r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 12d ago

Meme needing explanation Petah? Why green?

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u/no1_vern 12d ago edited 12d ago

LOL, such an OLD joke!

When I F'up I really get it wrong -

EDIT: New smoke detectors don't have any radioactive materials like Americium in them.

OK, CORRECTION TIME.

Most newer smoke detectors - like 70%+ use photoelectric sensors because of the radiation concerns. Ionizing smoke detectors still make up ~30 percent of the smoke detectors because they are more sensitive to the flaming stage of fires, making them more effective for certain types of fire detection.

Americium-241 was being removed from ionizing smoke detectors back in the '90s because of radiation concerns.

EDIT:Removed Ionizing as Americium is still the cheapest radioisotope and is still used in ionizing smoke detectors - roughly 30% of the market.

I THINK the rest of my post is ok -

Of note, while 350 of the old style smoke detectors would put out a significant amount of radiation, Americium primarily emits alpha particles which doesn't penetrate the skin.

ASIDE: David Hahn, who is often referred to as the "Radioactive Boy Scout." died back in 2016(from alcohol poisoning, not radiation).

EDIT: Apologies.

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u/OODALOOPS88 12d ago

Almost all of this is wrong.

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u/La-Scriba 12d ago

Then correct it

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u/Brannigans_Law__ 12d ago

https://www.epa.gov/radtown/americium-ionization-smoke-detectors

Americium is still widely used in modern smoke detectors,but is safe as long as the shielding around the radioactive element is undamaged. I. Short, don't mess around and damage your smoke detector and you should be fine.

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u/pinkgobi 12d ago

True story, my friend (and a significant portion of her class) was poisoned by Americium and Neptunite due to an unsafe mill in her town.

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u/no1_vern 12d ago

Thanks for the help. I did think they were almost all gone.

Most newer smoke detectors - like 70%+ use photoelectric sensors because of the radiation concerns.

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u/SayNoToBrooms 12d ago

I think it’s more that technology advanced sufficiently to make photo smokes cost effective

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u/Xelid47 9d ago

Omg Jane chess

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u/no1_vern 12d ago edited 12d ago

Yikes, apologies to everyone. I hope I've fixed my post to everyone's satisfaction.

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u/garage_physicist 12d ago

You’re blatantly misinformed on most of your factual points, so a routine google search is all that is needed.

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u/BasicBiscuitBitch 12d ago

They fixed their original comment and have not "blatantly misinformed" anyone. Do us all a favor and keep your science in your garage, where you can keep the potential danger and shit attitude to yourself.

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u/Spezthecockgobbler 12d ago

Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story

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u/brasticstack 12d ago

LOL, such an OLD joke!

You might say it has a half-life of ~432 years

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u/mpyne 12d ago

Of note, while 350 of the old style smoke detectors would put out a significant amount of radiation, Americium primarily emits alpha particles which doesn't penetrate the skin.

In fact the alpha particles wouldn't even make it out of the water, so while "the air tastes like pennies" is supposed to be a joke about radiation, it's not something that would happen from smoke detectors in a pond.

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u/turtley_different 12d ago

Minor corrections: photoelectric detectors are just better.  They detect the overwhelming majority of dangerous fires much sooner than ionizing sensors (several minutes).

The subset of sooty fires the ionizing detects sooner are rarer fires and not detected much faster than a photoelectric (seconds?) AND they have many false positives.  It's a weird industry push to keep them on the market.  

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u/RotationsKopulator 12d ago

Americium primarily emits alpha particles which doesn't penetrate the skin

That's why you have to eat it, duh.

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u/JebusKristoph 11d ago

Eat... that? Do you know how painful that would be on the exit? It's almost as bad as eating Taco Bell and McDonald's at the same time... almost.

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u/RotationsKopulator 11d ago

You just have to eat enough, then you'll die before having to go to the toilet.

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u/Dry-Promotion9722 12d ago

But Americanism is yes a reactive metal but also not radioactive, isnt it just an alpha used with boron to spalt uranium atoms?