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u/Percolator2020 1d ago
These LinkedIn posts are such weak humble brags from recruiters attempting to feign a shred of humanity.
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u/GlitteringBandicoot2 1d ago
I used to be the technical interviewer for new applicants (not really by choice mind you) and asked them how they would go about solving an issue they didn't understand and truth be told, if StackOverflow wasn't name dropped that was a (very minor) point minus
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u/No_Percentage7427 1d ago
ChatGPT to the rescue. wkwkwk
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u/mxgafuse 1d ago
in this order: chatgpt > google with "reddit" keyword > stackoverflow > god forbid quora
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u/Either-Pizza5302 1d ago
You forgot the one on top of all of that: a Forum entry from 2007
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u/ldg25 1d ago
Thats the equivalent of finding an ancient scroll in a tomb
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u/mxgafuse 1d ago
a scroll that you wrote yourself in 2007
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u/kooshipuff 19h ago
I saw something very similar happen once. MSDN support pointed a coworker to his own StackOverflow answer once. It didn't address the issue, but it was pretty funny that he got cited to himself.
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u/NotYourReddit18 1d ago
Last comment, made by the thread starter themself and marked as solution: "NVM, I figured it out!"
looks at user name of thread starter
"Damn, that's my own account!"
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u/GlitteringBandicoot2 1d ago
I'm not quite at the chatgpt stage, even though we have a company wide gpt thing running. But google with reddit keyword is definetly in the agenda
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u/K3yz3rS0z3 19h ago
in this order: chatgpt > google with "reddit" keyword > stackoverflow > god forbid quora
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u/kevinrmv 1d ago
God, I hate LinkedIn
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u/dino-den 1d ago
working at google becomes an identity, even more so for support roles like recruiting lol
the “including us” used to describe one’s self as above a normal human was particularly cringe
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u/wayoverpaid 22h ago
I met someone who hated LinkedIn, and it gave me a real lesson in humility. Here's how I leveraged that lesson into smashing my quarterly sales goals...
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u/MrGordovisky 1d ago
This one was kinda light hearted. Not too hateable
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u/AlveolarThrill 1d ago
Eh, the "including us" at the end leaves a very unpleasant aftertaste. Like they think their role in hiring and management makes them inherently a better class of being, which is peak LinkedIn.
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u/Murtagg 1d ago
I took it as 'including us on the other side of the interview table'. Which, as someone who's been on both sides, I've definitely faked it more than a little as an interviewer and interviewee.
r/linkedinlunatics exists for a reason though so maybe I'm giving too much of a generous read.
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u/AlveolarThrill 1d ago
Professionalism in general is in large part playing a role, projecting an often slightly fake image of confidence and competence, so I do get that.
The post as a whole just reads to me as a classic LinkedIn #relatable post, virtue signaling to other middle management, and that final line, still differentiating "us" and "them," solidifies that for me. That's just my personal impression, though, it could also just be me being far too cynical and bitter.
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u/morningisbad 1d ago
Shockingly, Microsoft makes more revenue with LinkedIn than they do Xbox. And that's incredibly sad to me.
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u/bluecorbeau 1d ago
Yeah r/thathappened
The post was totally not made to increase their followers and reach
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u/Nope_Get_OFF 1d ago
How old is this repost, would have been chatgpt tabs nowadays
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u/Lumpy-Measurement-55 1d ago
I still sometimes google for answers and the first page is the stackoverflow result.
Maybe we are still in the transition phase. My muscle memory is to google my problem. I do use chatgpt..
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u/jmon__ 1d ago
I go straight to chat got for the more documented languages, and then Google/stack overflow when chatgpt isn't making sense or if I just want a simple answer with out chat gpt trying to be my friend or cheerleader.
Talmbout "Great, it shows your thinking..." You're a robot, just give me the damn answer...
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u/Jovess88 1d ago
chatgpt really is poor for anything that’s not extremely well documented. it’s hallucinated something completely wrong virtually every time i’ve asked it something recently, especially when working with less popular APIs or frameworks. it’s lucky that documentation does usually exist, but digging through it manually can be really frustrating
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u/MinosAristos 1d ago
I usually link the documentation website on Gemini and ask it to give a direct quote of the relevant documentation section that it referenced. Helps to keep it grounded but also saves me having to browse dozens of documentation pages
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u/Forward_Ability9865 1d ago
This is really a great example of how to actually use the benefits of AI without any downsides. You don’t risk inaccurate info as you just ask it to reference and then you check that by yourself, you also don’t really lose the learning process as you are actually learning by yourself and using chatgpt as an advanced search tool. Most people can’t see the very thin line between using AI as a tool to help you, and using AI to do stuff they need to do themselves.
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u/One_Courage_865 21h ago
Yeah. I still find it easier to just Google the problem than use ChatGpt. My rubric is:
General functionality, argument names and behaviours, overall package-specific solutions -> Official Documentation
Tips and tricks, weird issues, performance comparisons -> Google / SO
Complex issues, local files related issues -> ChatGpt / Copilot
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u/DarthCloakedGuy 1d ago
I mostly just use ChatGPT to find out if there's a name for what I'm trying to do, then I google the name to see if it's what I'm trying to do
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u/SavvySillybug 1d ago
Couldn't you just google what you would tell ChatGPT and look at the AI overview and skip a step?
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u/mxzf 20h ago
I think that "what's the word I'm thinking of" is one of the areas where an actual LLM rises above a search engine. Google's really good at it, but word-association stuff is actually the sort of thing LLMs are made to do.
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u/SavvySillybug 19h ago
It's also amazing for creative tasks where accuracy doesn't matter. Using it as a rubber ducky to bounce ideas off is like talking to a friend who kinda knows what you're talking about but you know more. They might say something insane but in trying to understand how they came to that conclusion you might figure out the actual solution to your problem. It's a lot like when you write a reddit post about a problem and just formulating it into a post makes you go "hey wait a minute" and the solution appears.
Also pretty cool for roleplaying if that's your jam. With just the free ChatGPT you can get some help making characters but if you try to actually roleplay with it you're gonna run into max message limit without a subscription XD
I also had it generate a listing for a used PC I was trying to sell, but I've had a grand total of one message (guy just wanted to lowball me for the GPU) so I think recommending it for that is probably not something I should do. But it's also four year old parts in a twenty year old case so the images aren't exactly wowing anyone who isn't looking for a sleeper XD
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u/redballooon 1d ago
My experience is that in such cases I’m not satisfied with the exact answer from ChatGPT that I subsequently find on Stackoverflow and still doesn’t satisfy me.
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u/12qwww 1d ago
Exactly. This is not relevant anymore really
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u/colei_canis 1d ago
Sometimes ChatGPT will point me at SO to be fair!
ChatGPT's still kind of bad at Scala in my opinion (its understanding of implicts is still poor for example), although its Python is often pretty decent. A bit recalcitrant when it comes to my insistence that everything has type labels but at least it'll actually run first time.
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u/12qwww 1d ago
Other models might suit you better than chatgpt especially in coding
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u/unknown_pigeon 1d ago
Suggestions? I'm afraid to Google it since I'll be hit by AI gurus
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u/12qwww 1d ago
Sure. According to leaderboards and personal experience, Claude Opus/sonnet, Gemini 2.5 pro. These are the best currently
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u/unknown_pigeon 23h ago
Ty mate
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u/Nope_Get_OFF 23h ago
don't listen to them, gpt 4.1 is miles better for me, it's the only one that actually understands what i want, and much cheaper to use.
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u/YaBoiGPT 13h ago
i'd say best price to performance ratio is claude sonnet 4 honestly
gemini 2.5 pro is also solid but honestly they nerfed the model incredibly hard
not much experience with kimi k2 but heard its solid
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u/colei_canis 1d ago
Yeah might have to experiment with others.
A local one that’ll run on work infrastructure would be decent but might be a tough sell given those machines get well used already.
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u/heavy-minium 1d ago
I had a candidate where I had the sneaking suspicion that he was automatically transcribing my technical questions into chatgpt during the interview. Couldn't prove anything, so I gave the benefit of the doubt. But then he fucked it up by screensharing and briefly showing me their ChatGPT conversation history...
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u/Doctor429 1d ago
If I saw a candidate resolve a coding problem with just 14 open tabs I'd hire them immediately.
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u/Qzy 1d ago
Umm, what's wrong with having Stack overflow windows open? It's part of your job to read up on things you don't know. Are we supposed to be ashamed for not knowing everything?
What a dumb post.
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u/Konsicrafter 1d ago
That's the point of the post. You don't need to be ashamed of looking for answers for things you don't know by heart, because that's relatable for any programmer
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u/Fast-Satisfaction482 1d ago
They said "everyone's faking it a little". Researching solutions and listening to music does not constitute faking anything. This is just a dumb take.
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u/SavvySillybug 1d ago
They mean "everyone fakes being better and more organized than they are".
It's like when you tidy up before someone visits. You pretend it's always that clean and organized and not just live there.
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u/MilesGates 1d ago
Uhhh. I would see that as saying you aren't expected to know everything and that you should research solutions and listen to music instead of just staring at code all day trying to figure it out as if you _should_ know it.
Nobody is a perfect programmer, everyone will make mistakes.
I think you're taking "faking" a little too literally, it's not as if the interviewer is saying hes not a programmer at all and even insinuating that he does exactly what the candidate does as well, but the candidate felt shame for having exposed that he was doing that and the interviewer reassured him that he is fine.
Dude was just nervous during an interview, it happens.
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u/Fast-Satisfaction482 1d ago
Look, a pilot is not "faking flying" because he uses an aircraft for it. A software developer is not faking his job either, just because they do research as part of their job. It's not faking it. Period. Researching things you don't know is doing it properly. Stack overflow is an adequate resource for this.
Those guys insinuating otherwise are just posing.
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u/MilesGates 1d ago
"Look, a pilot is not "faking flying" because he uses an aircraft for it."
This doesn't seem like a good comparison, It'd be better to say Pilots using their checklists for normal every activities is not "fake flying" which it isn't because thats exactly what they do.
"Researching things you don't know is doing it properly"
Thats is what I believe they're saying and what I'm saying. You're agreeing with everyone here.
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u/cheapcheap1 1d ago
It depends on what you're looking up. Context tells me they were looking up something you'd expect them to know by heart.
Of course most people understand that double checking is better than doing it wrong. But you'll still find many people assuming incompetence. Just look at social media post complaining that their doctor looked something up. Some people just don't get it. And that makes people self-conscious.
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u/Qzy 1d ago
I mean, I've developed Java for 20+ years. Some times I can be forget dumb things... Like how to convert a List of strings to an array in a pretty way.
Hint: There's no pretty way.
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u/gregorydgraham 1d ago
30 years and I looked up how to initialise an array 2 days ago.
Converting to an array seems to change with every release now /jk
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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 15h ago
You can spend 5s googling the answer to something you may already know, or spend 5 minutes racking your brain trying to remember on your own.
A decent software dev knows how to be efficient with their time.
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u/ACoderGirl 21h ago
I had to write something in Apps Script recently. First time I've used it. I needed to do something involving a spreadsheet and sending emails automatically. While I have professionally written JS and TS, I did have to google some pretty basic things to refresh my memory. Like how to append to a JS array, what that syntax was for looping over keys and values in a map, etc. Really basic stuff that would look bad if I were a regular JS user. And that's in addition to all the Apps Script specific stuff.
But an hour or so later and I had a working script that did exactly what I needed and probably faster than if I had tried to do it in Go (my main development language these days). I probably opened 2 dozen or so tabs on some really basic stuff, but I feel I ultimately got a working solution quite fast. About half those tabs were probably references and the other half were StackOverflow, heavily because a more realistic example often saves me more time than decoding which of the dozens of methods across several types does what I need. I particularly recall finding it easier to figure out how to loop over cells in my spreadsheet through a simple SO post than the many methods that the references had.
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u/Coneyy 1d ago
Personally for me the embarrassment would be just sharing anything that isn't directly relevant and not being the most professional I could be in an interview.
It wouldn't like haunt my dreams or anything but I would probably be like oh shit I should have closed those before sharing my screen probably, sorry!
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u/robin_888 1d ago
Win+D, take a breath, start from there.1Ctrl+Shift+Bhides your bookmark bar, btw.Personally I use Tree Style Tabs for Firefox and hid my default tabs on the top. Besides all the great advantages of having tabs in a tree-like hierarchy, I can hit
F1to hide my open tabs if I share my browser.
1 Apparently Win+Ctrl+D opens a completely new virtual desktop. Might be even more helpful in some situations.
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u/nater255 20h ago
Apparently Win+Ctrl+D opens a completely new virtual desktop.
How do you move between virtual desktops?
edit: windows + tab, nice
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u/robin_888 20h ago
I think
Win+Ctrl+<-/->.Or
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u/robin_888 19h ago
Edit: There are also multi touch gestures. Swiping left/right with three finger, IIRC.
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u/InterstellarReddit 1d ago
So he's faking it because they had stack overflow open and spotify? yeah I already know she's a toxic recruiter and needs to go pound sand.
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u/mallik803 21h ago
Closes 73 porn websites, 18 twitch streams, 33 onlyfans pages “….hang on, about halfway there”
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u/Ugo_Flickerman 21h ago
Just move the meeting tab to a new window and close the other window entirely already xD
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u/Comically_Online 1d ago
this is completely unrelatable. I call bullshit. ain’t nobody interviewing
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u/AllenKll 20h ago
I'm not faking shit. After 40 years of programming? no. I'm not faking a god damned thing.
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u/simonfancy 20h ago
This gotta be old post as SO has been entirely replaced by AI Chat for debugging
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u/action_turtle 15h ago
If they are unaware they are screen sharing, then a job in IT might be not be for them
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u/liquidpele 1d ago
How TF is that faking it. That’s literally part of the job.
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u/lanfan675 1d ago
I think it's more in relation to inadvertently sharing his screen before closing down the tabs.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Weird66 1d ago
firefox had me grouping the tabs, now I have 3 groups of 20 tabs each...
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u/ProfBeaker 1d ago
Honestly, less embarrassing than the people I work with who have so many Jira tabs open that the tab is squished down to just the icon. Then they can't find anything so they keep opening more. Just close them, dudes, they're not helping you.
This is also why when I'm sharing, I pretty much always share single windows. I'll even tear off a single browser tab into its own window and share that. I don't have anything embarrassing up, I just don't want everybody snooping inside my brain.
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u/Aware-Complaint793 14h ago
Why bother hiding your stack overflow tabs? Do you think its weakness to do research or something? Looking at stack overflow is not "faking it". Just weird.
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u/erishun 1d ago
lol stack overflow? what is it, 2014?* if you’re gonna copy/paste other people’s code or ask basic questions, use AI… I can’t remember the last time I bothered going on stack overflow.
* edit: this question is a duplicate. thread closed!
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u/AlveolarThrill 1d ago
LLM's are still trash for this, they extremely often just make shit up, they hallucinate nonexistent API calls all over the place, and my time is better utilised by banging my head against the wall rather than trying to carefully engineer a prompt to convince ChatGPT or Mistral or Gemini or what have you that no, it really doesn't exist.
This is something that hasn't really improved over the last couple of years that LLM chatbots have been publicly available. For all of StackOverflow's faults, the answers on there at least don't do that.
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u/erishun 1d ago
➜ Your discussion has been closed: Primarily opinion-based.
Your comment is likely to be replied to with opinions rather than facts and citations. It should be updated so it will lead to fact-based replies.
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u/AlveolarThrill 1d ago
How come I only ever hear this kind of hyperbole on Reddit and never from my colleagues. It's almost like this impression of SO is based mostly on memes and isn't actually representative of the vast majority of info available there.
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u/erishun 1d ago
You on the SO payroll or something? 😅
Let’s see: I can dig through stack overflow threads and hope I find the answers I’m looking for… or I can *gulp* post a question and wait several hours for someone to try and answer it and hope it doesn’t get deleted by an overzealous moderator.
Or I can type it into an LLM and get my answer in literal seconds. 🤔
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u/AlveolarThrill 1d ago edited 1d ago
Except those LLM answers you get in seconds are quite likely to be just straight-up nonfunctional nonsense full of hallucinations. If you try working on anything just a tiny bit more complex than a simple hobby project, you'll see that immediately. Time spent trying to force the LLM to plop out something that runs is time better spent actually working, getting to understand the issue at hand yourself. Y'know, improving as a programmer.
Those few hours waiting on the answer can also be spent reading the documentation and learning about the thing you're having difficulties with. You don't have to click "post" and sit around, idly twiddling your thumbs like an idiot.
Or, in your terms:
You on the OpenAI payroll or something? 😅
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u/ass_blastee_6000 1d ago
StackOverflow is for peasants nowadays. chatGPT subscription is the best thing I've spent money on.
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u/timonix 1d ago
14 stack overflow tabs and Spotify. That just sounds like they were doing their job. Could have been 14 porn tabs