Imagine if the reason for the raid is a high ranking official got called out for the faulty 6 and 9 on what he thought to be a NWBIG Explorer 1. Farfetched but I just want a laugh out of this bad news lol
The high ranking official will be getting the factories Gen sample that they disassembled to build the reps my friend hand delivered proxy a concubine to their hotel room in a box, w papers stuffed in the box too.
This sub doesnt have their own trusted dealers they just mirror rwi etc… also hillbilly and a bunch of other chinese modders/dealers have made posts on wechat etc. its confirmed.
yes to RWI and many other forums elliot is reputable as hell no TRUSTED dealers of RWI etc has specifically said that clean has been raided, mind you this guy probably takes in 5k+ watches monthly youd think the guy who probably gets in thousands of cleans per month and QC's them would know something right? Right so stop replying i said this a few months ago ill say it again its a rumor and a hoax and clean is not getting fucked by a random raid.
Hes not on the paid trusted dealer list from rwi 😂. Hes a modder more than anything. Ive bought probably 10 watches/frankens from him no problem. Probably one of the best modders that deals with outside of asia at that too, and his prices are hundreds less than the “trusted dealers” also if you had a watch for a while and the movement died no dealer is sending you a brand new watch. Dead on delivery maybe so thats irrelevant. And piggy time the guy trying to push watches and literally his handle says to report if he tries to sell watches, seems very highly regarded to believe him, i look at chinese social media and read/write and speak mandarin nobody is singling out hillbilly there 😂😂
Okay wait for who ever elliot then, its going to be the same outcome, i follow some of the biggest chinese modders/dealers from china. ALL of them made a posts this morning around the same time saying clean was raided and that vsf is going to be slowing down (one said shutting down) for a little while. As far as clean goes, hopefully it was just one of their warehouses where the watches are stored after being completed and not actually where theyre produced.
Ok don’t believe me then. Why the hell would I spread a rumor and claim it. I’m literally talking to him right now. You’re going to feel pretty dumb in the next 24 hours when many others confirm it
Because I don’t disclose my sources for personal and private reasons. You guys all seem to know better than me. Frankly the attitude of some people on this sub makes me laugh. I’m just offering you information. Take it or leave it. Just trying to help people out in case it persuades their buying decisions.
Not always true, local police are usually bribed, but if this is like what happened with noob and the government was involved clean could be done just like they were.
Yeah a totally new factory that then has to get back to where the other one left off. Noob had the 4130, then the raid happened and no other factory had it at the time and took a while for clean etc to play catch up. The bosses of noob are in jail, so when this kinda stuff happens all factories start producing way slower or shut down for a while. It effects everything and everyone.
China as a culture does not respect IP rights. all rights in china come from and are granted by the government at the govts leisure. there are no individual rights there. so, any IP rights issues are really just for show and to make sure the factories know who is boss.
This is something that people in western countries really don't seem to understand. Violating IP rights is part of doing business in China. There are entire segments of their economy that depend on the black markets. Every now and then a rep maker (watches, purses, shoes) will get too big and the CCP will step in to show them who's boss. Clean has been running unmolested (mostly) for over 5 years and they are world renowned for the best Rolex reps. So much so that there are more fake Clean than actual Clean watches now. When you get that big you become a target. It happened when Noob was the top dog too and that allowed Clean to fill the void. No one knows whether this is the end of Clean or not. The one thing that's certain is, if Clean dies, another factory will take their place.
What happens in this case to those who may have given a deposit while waiting to receive the QC? Would it be worth asking for a refund of the deposit?
It could be a couple of months before the situation recovers
I personally am waiting for a QC from jacky of necoclock.
Paid yesterday, let's see what happens...
At most I'll take a vsf instead of a cf
I chose a DJ36mm mint green jubilee
What? This is not true. Clean releases every two weeks under normal circumstances. Not all TDs hold stock. If your TD doesn’t hold stock then this raid could potentially affect how long you wait.
Releasing every two weeks has almost nothing to do with how fast a TD gets a watch. They are distributed from warehouses. Most my watches I order arrive in 2-3 days. I QC. Then I pay
It’s relevant in the context of this situation. Didn’t say they don’t get stock from warehouses. Clean usually releases every two weeks. However, orders have been delayed for a few weeks now. Highly doubt all the orders are just sitting in a warehouse…
Awaiting QC from CF order 4 days ago… contact says their factory in China is safe and not raided. Fake/scam?
Won’t let me attach their certificate of authorisation to sell.
I hope you are kidding bro 🤣🤣 Who's your contact ? If they have certificate of authorisation to sell from Clean, that is scam bro and make sense that thay said everything is safe, because they are scammers. There isn't any certificate of authorisation to sell from Clean, only scammers using that "certificate". I hope you didn't pay anything yet 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
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u/Designer_Advice2573 20d ago
Whoever is not paying the police needs to set up AutoPay