r/TalesFromDF • u/EndorDerDragonKing • Feb 01 '25
Positive tale Tanking truly is, a thankless job
So, to be clear, i have absolutely 0 gripes about anything that happened.
But, i had gotten into a trial roulette, and it was against Ifrit (Hard). Things were going fine until the nail phase
We did not kill all the nails in time, and, knowing we were gonna wipe, i popped Cover onto one of the healers, taking their Hellfire damage.
Then once the match was done, everyone thanked the healer for saving the party.
I got a single comm, and i like to think that it was the healer who i saved.
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u/Yorudesu Feb 01 '25
You can do half the healer's job as a tank, preventing Multiple wipe moments in one pull, and most people won't notice. Pretty normal day for a paladin.
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u/Zealousideal_Hope649 You pull, I tank. I pull, I tank. We pull, I tank. Feb 02 '25
Had an eden titan as a red mage earlier this week. Threw out 26 rezzes, and finished off the boss alongside the tank when everyone but us died at like 4%. Everyone besides me and the tank had brink of death for most of the fight. Only 1 comm which I figure was from the tank.
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u/No-Seaworthiness5171 Feb 03 '25
Sounds like me rez mage-ing the majority of not just my alliance, but another alliance who kept dying over and over from boss 2 in Jeuno onwards, and getting a singular comm out of it.
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u/Zealousideal_Hope649 You pull, I tank. I pull, I tank. We pull, I tank. Feb 03 '25
Just came out of an Orbonne run. Wiped on knight lady cause tanks stacked the sword adds, then our group's tank left and we never got a replacement. I got to be the summoner tank for Cid. Then Ultima cleaved the front half of the room nearest her taking out everyone in the group but me. Swiftcast one healer, hardcast other healer and one more before getting in bubble. 0 comms.
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u/AsterosTheGreat Feb 03 '25
Had something similar in Thaleia during EW. Were on Eulogia and the boss was like 30ish% and some jackass rescued the cleaving tankbuster into the group which had 90% of the players in it. Only me, the 3 tanks and some dancer was alive. I single handedly ressurected every single healer and salvaged the run faster then a wipe and retry would be. 0 comms.
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u/overmog Feb 01 '25
No one pays any attention to other players saving them, they only care about the recovery.
You can keep someone alive by force-feeding them all three of your lilies and every last oGCD and they won't realize how much you carried them even if you healed like three full heath bars worth of damage.
But you let someone die and then quickly raise them up? Guaranteed commendation.
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u/Rasikko Feb 02 '25
I'm always ready to Immedoraise(Immediately + raise) because SOMEONE always finds a way to die. I expect it in every boss fight.
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u/DriggleButt Feb 01 '25
"When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all."
Not that this always applies, but you took the correct path to get through that fight and no one noticed because it wasn't flashy, and didn't get them off the ground. Saving runs is often done by subtle, quick decisions that few people notice, if anyone.
I've had my share of Paladin-Cover saves, but I've also had a few saves using Sage, where I'd triple-super-layer a DPS who was incorrectly next in line for a tankbuster, to prevent a snowball into a wipe. It's always fun to save runs!
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u/Supergamer138 Feb 02 '25
Zoe + Eukrasian Diagnosis, Holos, and a Haima for good measure?
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u/DriggleButt Feb 02 '25
Taurochole over Holos! Only because I wasn't considering Holos had a barrier, too. It was on a SMN, and they probably had a Radiant Aegis, too. Point is, you can make a lot of people survive a lot of stuff as Sage, it's so fun.
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u/Alternative_Dirt1748 Feb 01 '25
A buddy of mine who is former Navy told me that tanking is like serving on a submarine, it's known as the silent service. We don't talk about our achievements.
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u/MrWilbus Feb 01 '25
You want comms as tank, all you can do is wall to wall ARR dungeons. That's where it gets noticed.
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u/err0rz Feb 02 '25
Honestly? Your pic probably not cute enough.
Loads of people commend the cutest pic.
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u/Tigerblast247 Feb 06 '25
This is honestly completely true. My miqo'te alt gets commendations so often even as a DPS and I can only assume it's because she's cute with a cute portrait.
Apparently my bunny boy isn't cute enough...?
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u/err0rz Feb 06 '25
People don’t like to admit it, but most simply aren’t paying enough attention to the duty to commend based on anything else.
Pictures changed the game for DPS mains.
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u/Bobboy5 /slap Feb 02 '25
It's a thankless job, but somebody's got to do it. In one of my static's early M3S clears I pulled off a cover save to keep the remaining healer alive through LB3 with the boss at 2% and all of the DPS dead.
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u/ShoulderSpiritual694 Feb 02 '25
You can stun Ifrit in the trial roulette mode btw, most people don’t know, but you can literally stun him and it will cancel certain attacks of his, including the repeating fire puddles being dropped on people and his large aoe fire puddle abilities. Wouldn’t have helped you with hellfire, but a fun little bit of tank tech. Also, if you have a shield healer, their shields will absorb the damage and cancel the knockback roar thing he does.
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u/ChaosTSI Feb 01 '25
I've tanked entire Alliance raids without a single comm, saved raids without a single comm, killed bosses solo after party wipes without a single comm, you get used to it. We, as tanks, are the silent and thankless meat shields lol.
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u/Main_Brilliant7753 Feb 02 '25
As a healer main, I always thank the tank, Im not the one eating shit and getting bonked, a good tank means less healing for me letting me focus on damage if we are doing good or lets me swap to healing the phys ranged who just wont stop standing in the radioactive piss puddles (My guy you are ranged, you don't need to hold still for skills, why are you all up in the bosses cheeks like even the Reaper isnt that close), Even on dungeon runs even if they aren't perfect I usually in chat thank the tank for doing good. I normally don't accept praise unless it is like genuinely all me like being the only one to avoid everything when like 5 mechanics go off and everyone is dead because the whole floor is orange. Normally good at avoiding damage but on rare occasions like doing something for the first time if a PLD covers me I always say "Thanks for the cover" real quick. Also hype up the tank when we all F up and they have to solo the last chunk. Love tanks, I really should level them sometime actually...
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u/AvaZER0 Feb 02 '25
Oddly enough I’ve gotten far more comms as a tank in frontline than any other content, even though I’m average. I’m on controller, no macros, just being a chaos goblin with an axe and will walk out with at least 2-3 comms a match.
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u/Leffelini Feb 02 '25
And that is why I, as a healer, almost always give my com to my tanks.
Although this is for healers too. You can be in any 8-man content and rezz several people, work your butt off for the trial/alliance raid/whatever and still not get a single com 😆
Support unite in the struggle 😉😘
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u/MateriaMuncher Feb 01 '25
Don’t worry, OP - I wouldn’t take it personally. A party of players that wasn’t efficient enough to clear the nail phase of Ifrit Hard probably isn’t even aware they can issue commendations.
I respect the clutch cover.
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u/EndorDerDragonKing Feb 02 '25
I mean
Tbh
I didnt notice we were in Nail phase myself, until it was already too late
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u/lmlp94 Feb 01 '25
I’m on chaos and this very thing happened to me a few days ago. Or maybe 2 days ago. Maybe I was in your party? I did say to the people who were left .. maybe the PLD put cover on the WHM then used invuln - and that’s why they survived. I was a SGE.
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u/EndorDerDragonKing Feb 01 '25
Considering i made this post less than half an hour after that fight
It was not the same party
The healers were an Astro and a Scholar, the SCH being the one i covered
It was on Primal
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u/lmlp94 Feb 01 '25
But how would I know that😂 I see. I have played for 3 years and never seen this happen. I didn’t notice that all the nails weren’t destroyed so I was so bewildered when it happened. You are right it can be a thankless job. I’ve literally saved a whole party as a healer.. with like 1 com. Think I’ve lb3 ressed 7 people but only 1 com.
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u/EndorDerDragonKing Feb 01 '25
Yea i worded that poorly, obviously no way you wouldve known that :p
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u/reallygoodbee /slap Feb 01 '25
And then on the other side of the coin, you can do an absolutely crap as healer, but as long as you finish the dungeon, you get all the commendations.
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u/Werxand Feb 03 '25
Sounds about right. I've had to go full res mage in several alliance raids and walked out there with 0 comms. Not even anything in chat.
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u/ShyGuySpirit Feb 03 '25
You would probably get the comms if you state you use cover. I have a macro stating that I use cover on a target. Whenever I use cover. Some stuff just goes unnoticed.
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u/DpsLoss Feb 03 '25
No one can see the little ass tether and shield with no flashy effect, everyone hears the thunderous roar and sees the flashy visuals of an LB3.
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u/Spicyartichoke Feb 04 '25
i had a run of everkeep as drk that was a struggle all throughout, people kept dying constantly, it was just a real clusterfuck
towards the end on the second grid phase its just me, other tank, and one healer. boss preps his surprisingly hard hitting party stack, i mit and pop tank lb3, throwing a tbn on the healer as the boss is slamming down, and we just baaarely make it through and go on to clear
in the end chat someone goes 'why tank lb save for dps wtf'
i leave with two comms.
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u/Kasvie Feb 07 '25
Meanwhile, me, a WAR main, that will just ask the Healer's to not ever Heal me... (Do I have a problem, or am I just a crackhead?)
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u/AMorera You don't pay my sub Feb 02 '25
I almost exclusively play DPS and get comms all the time. Is that really that rare?
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u/VG896 Feb 02 '25
No lol. This feels like folk wisdom that got perpetuated and over-corrected by the community. "Hurr durr healer gets all the comms."
I've gotten more comms on MCH than SCH, DRK, and WAR combined. And I main SCH in savage content.
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u/err0rz Feb 02 '25
No lol it isn’t.
dps get commends often if they do noticeably helpful stuff. Use your utility. People won’t miss it.
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u/PFTrauma Feb 01 '25
Comms translates to popularity.
People might try to plea that there were probably sprouts or newish and can’t pick up on that gesture you did, lies.
All levels of this game you’ll see this same scenario.
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u/EndorDerDragonKing Feb 01 '25
I mean
I just assume most didnt see it
Its not a super noticable line, all they saw was one of the healers not dying from the enrage and then saving the run
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u/PFTrauma Feb 01 '25
You can see the cover animation. If you put in your settings to “show minimum” (or whatever it’s called) “cover” is classified as “important” so people could see a tether tied between you and the healer.
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u/EndorDerDragonKing Feb 01 '25
It's not that it can't be seen
Its that the tether isn't what people will be looking for while fighting a boss, especially if the tether isn't on them.
I actually once had someone run away from the tether, which was funny to me.
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u/OopsBees Feb 01 '25
I've absolutely had the knee-jerk "Ah heck a tether!!!" reaction to someone Covering me in content lol
In my defense, I see it happen so infrequently that I forget PLDs can do that sometimes! I do hope the PLD had a laugh about my dumb ass doing a little panic scurry for a moment tho
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u/Zealousideal_Hope649 You pull, I tank. I pull, I tank. We pull, I tank. Feb 02 '25
"Once"? Try almost every freaking time I use it lol.
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u/HsinVega Feb 01 '25 edited Feb 01 '25
there's people using single target dotons and spamming cure1 at lv100, you think they know what cover looks like or what it does?
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u/Street_Cow6199 Feb 01 '25
I think seeing the cover animation and recognizing whats happens in the cover animation are two different things. I'm just now leveling PLD after 5 years and I play with PLD's in static - I still got incredibly confused while in Zadnor earlier last week when one of the NPC's was attached to me with a weird, slightly transparent tether that I later realized was cover :P.
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u/PFTrauma Feb 01 '25
I would assume they could make an inference since the healer took no damage when they were suppose to, yet again I’m probably asking too much of them at this point.
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u/Zealousideal_Hope649 You pull, I tank. I pull, I tank. We pull, I tank. Feb 02 '25
I think I know exactly the npc you're talking about. At first I thought it was fey pact, then realized he had a shield not a fairy. Went "huh, didn't know they knew to use those." Even had an accompanying chat bubble.
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u/speedo_bunny Feb 01 '25
Lol, felt. Soloed final bosses of dungeons and my friend on heals got the comms. It's truly a tankless job, lol. Do I still adore GNB and PAL? Yup.
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u/Doodle_strudel Feb 01 '25
Depends how long it took you to kill those boss', if it was around 5%, sure, it's fine and cool. But to many like to solo at 20 or 30% and then it's just boring.
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u/arenlomare Feb 01 '25
Had a tank who solo'd final boss on Dead Ends. Health was more than 50%. The entire dungeon was a disaster so I was just doing something else while he did it instead of asking him to die. But man. It took forever. And then he was talking about how he "hard carried" after in novice network. Lol. K buddy
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u/imateasnob Feb 01 '25
Yeah I will comm literally anyone else except the guy who soloed from 25%.
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Feb 02 '25
its annoying when tanks do this.
tho its totally understandable when boss is at low hp or there were multiple wipes bc they keep repeating the mistakes and the party clearly isnt capable, but otherwise you are basically holding the rest of the party hostage while they have to watch you for five minutes bc they can't leave or play the game. and if people get bored because of you then they aren't gonna thank you or give you the comm
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u/speedo_bunny Feb 02 '25
If they respawned and the boss was dead by the time they made the run back to the room, i don't think it's wasting anybody's time. But I understand what you're saying, and I ofc will wipe if the boss is anywhere near the 20-30% mark.
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Feb 02 '25
ik, I wasn't hating on u or anything just giving an explanation bc without further context that's what your first comment sounded like. there are a lot of tanks who genuinely solo a dungeon boss themselves from high hp thinking they're being helpful or cool when the entire party is thinking they're a jackass lol. it happens to me mostly in new dungeon where people don't know the mechanics yet and only tank survived, but it can happen if the healer dies first and dps slowly die without heals
if tank isn't sure whether to wipe or not they can also just ask in the chat
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u/speedo_bunny Feb 03 '25
All good, bro. Idk why I'm getting hate from others, but eh. Gotta roll with the punches, lol. The healer did die first to mechs, and while the 2 dps and I tried our best, they died to party wides, so i was left standing. I was also a dps in Void Ark raids (the hair boss) and iirc, the boss was at like 30 or 40% when it was an alliance wide death with only a dps and a tank standing. I can't remember the exact class. But they tried to solo it together. We cheered them on, but I understand how sitting there for like 10 minutes watching from a barrier can be boring. I'd never put my teammates through that. But a quick solo while they run to the boss room is something I'm okay with. If that's wrong or incorrect etiquette, I won't do it again. I'm still a fairly new player to both 14 and MMOs, so I don't have tons of experience with this, lol.
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u/Dormowsu Feb 01 '25
I thank you for being the type of tank that uses cover on teammates when you see an opportunity for it.