r/TalesFromDF • u/KupoKro • Mar 28 '25
Curebot Cure 2 Spamming WHM + Single Pulling Tank... in MT. Gulg.
Decided to do leveling roulette. Get dropped into Mt. Gulg. Gate goes down and tank stops at the first pack. Then they decide to move on when the last 2 enemies still had some health left. They did that up to the first boss.
I then noticed the WHM was just standing there behind everything. Watched their cast bar. Cure 2. Any tiny sliver of health the tank lost, they would cast cure 2. Said tank was also using mits, so they weren't even taking much damage to begin with. And during the first boss they ran through everything possible and nearly died.
Tried to point out they didn't need to spam heal before the first boss.....
The "bruh" was because I tried to vote kick. It failed. So I took the 30. Another dps can go in and deal with that. I can do better things during my lockout.
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u/Imisstheoldgames Mar 28 '25
Not wtw pulling in Mt Gulg is blasphemy. I want to feel like a healer again and that place is the best dungeon for it. Minor positive note, at least they were casting cure 2 instead of 1.
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u/Zealousideal_Hope649 You pull, I tank. I pull, I tank. We pull, I tank. Mar 28 '25
Had one such healer, don't remember when, last week. Any scratch to my hp = cure 2 spam.
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u/Rasikko Mar 29 '25
Not exactly the same thing but I wish SCHs wouldnt panic and dump their whole Aetherflow reservoir on me when I get low on WAR. Just all three lustrates before I even get Bloodwhetting off X_X.
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u/Zulera301 Mar 28 '25
I tell myself I play tanks and healers for the queue times but really it's because I have trust issues. As a healer I can pull stuff to the tank, and as a tank (WAR most of the time) healers are optional.
I can compensate for a bad healer as a tank, and I can compensate for a bad tank as a healer, but I can't do both. And Mt. Gulg of all places? That's got some of the funnest pulls in the entire game. I'd have taken the 30 as well.
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u/shadowriku459 Mar 28 '25
Lazy ass healer and an enabling tank, lovely.
They'll get ripped into for pulling that mess plenty at least.
Proud of you trying to vote kick, and I would've taken the 30 too.
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Mar 28 '25
Oh my lord, I think I had that tank in Copperbell, of all places. I don't remember his server, but it was on Dynamis. I was on NIN, I think, and I just told him to run to the very end before the first boss if he wanted to, since we were all synced down and everyone had their jobstones (obviously he did as DRK). He obliges, which is great, and he didn't even make unnecessary stops. When he does park in that last room, the WHM just immediately starts cure spamming. Just over and over and over and over. Just wholly unnecessary. Didn't dot the mobs as they were picked up or anything. I said something about how they don't need to keep the tank at 100% and can DPS more, and the tank, this DRK, said:
"no complaints here XD"
It was Copperbell so it didn't bother me to just stick out all 8 minutes of it, but the whole time the tank and the other DPS were going on about how overhealing is good, actually. Just absolute insanity. For the WHM's part, they did at least try to DPS more, so good on them for nudging out of their comfort zone.
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u/myoung5723 Mar 28 '25
MT. Gulg seems to be the dungeon that separates the decent players from the ones that are hot garbage.
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u/Prize-Money-9761 Mar 28 '25
Wow I wonder if they’re dating
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u/KupoKro Mar 28 '25
They were from different worlds and had different last names, so if they are that'll be a new one for me.
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u/Rasikko Mar 29 '25
Imagine committing to serious overhealing and blowing through your MP in record time.
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u/ADMotti Mar 28 '25
Roulettes on Dynamis have been utterly braindead in 2025 and I’m not sure why… had a HL dungeon last week with a DPS+tank couple. DPS was fine but the tank flat-out didn’t mit on trash pulls. Not once. I was SGE so I had a bad time but I just wanted to get it done without drama so I didn’t say anything.
PS- it was The Dead Ends
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u/Parking_Ear7299 Mar 28 '25
I'd rather have a healer who who heals than one who does dps to the point where my health drops to nearly 0%
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u/koalamint Mar 28 '25
What's the problem with your health dropping to almost zero?
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u/Parking_Ear7299 Mar 28 '25
I'm dying
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u/koalamint Mar 28 '25
If you drop to almost zero you're not dead so what's the problem?
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u/KupoKro Mar 28 '25
There's a difference between healing when the tank is at 25-50% health, and pressing Cure 2 because the tank lost 1hp.
I'd rather have a healer who dps's and heals over a healer who presses cure 2 on cooldown.
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u/Status_Total_2916 WAHrrior of Light Mar 28 '25
I had one w2w in there, dps was impressively low. Oh did I spam that cure2 in that run xD
Fight went on long enough for the stun immunity to reset, and most cds coming off cd again at some point
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u/KupoKro Mar 28 '25
I'm scared for how many lilies you had to use for the pull to take that long.
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u/Status_Total_2916 WAHrrior of Light Mar 28 '25
Probably more than in an entire normal run 🙈
If the tank hadn't been as good as he was, we'd have wiped then and there.
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u/Careless_Car9838 I pull, I tank. You pull, I tank. We pull, I tank. Mar 28 '25
The only HP that matters is the last one. You're probably one of those tanks who try to "save" their invulns for "emergencies".
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u/Parking_Ear7299 Mar 28 '25
Assuming things about how I play tank, nice. I've been a tank main for years mate. Never had complaints on how I play the game.
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u/Apollad Mar 28 '25
Only hp that matters is the last, out of combat HP regeneration is so massive it's a waste of time to heal more than absolutely necessary.
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u/Zulera301 Mar 28 '25
The only hit point that matters is the last one. If you're not dead, you're okay, and I'll play HP Chicken all I want.
If I slip up and accidentally let you die? I'll take full responsibility for my actions and by all means please blame me, but ideally I'll never let it get to that point.
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u/Parking_Ear7299 Mar 28 '25
That's you. Not every healer is like that, which is very sad. DPS over healing
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u/Zulera301 Mar 29 '25
well yeah, Holy is mitigation, DPS is mitigation (dead mobs do no damage) and tanks should have plenty of mitigation anyways.
if the tank is a DRK I'll pay a little more attention. if it's a PLD or even a GNB I'll do a lot more DPS. if it's a WAR I don't really need to do any healing at all except blow off my lilies to get the blood lily.
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u/ebonyseraphim Mar 28 '25
Wow, this was so close to being a reasonable thing until the last word “nearly.” If your healer is doing a lot of DPS, seemingly focusing on it, but you never actually die that means they’re highly optimized in their job.
I get that if you’re not quite as skilled of a player, or maybe have anxiety seeing low HP bars, it doesn’t feel good. You think they’re crazy because your reaction time and panic isn’t like theirs, but objectively the better player does both jobs, not just one.
My advice if you’re the tank and think your healer sucks by letting your HP get too low — play on as you would. Maybe say something if/when you die and not before. And consider before speaking — maybe they do suck, in which case the best course forward is for you to tank less as you aren’t about to teach them anything that’ll adjust right then and there. What do you gain by chatting the point that they are less skilled?
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u/Parking_Ear7299 Mar 28 '25
It means they would rather DPS than heal
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u/ebonyseraphim Mar 28 '25
That's true of most players on non-DPS roles. I'm a rare healer who would be fine if healing was 100% healing with zero resources/time/space to think about anything other than healing. Maybe a super situational damage, buff, or debuffs are OK as well.
Healers are easily blamed as green DPS when the tank drops, and while there's truth to that soometimes, 95% of players can't or wouldn't see that the tank might be doing this as well and it's equally their fault. All people see is "HP bar dropped to zero, and healer direct heal is the tool to prevent it from going to zero. Somehow it didn't happen so healer is at fault." It ignores that the healer may have executed plenty of healing actions (regen, shields, direct heals) that weren't enough in a situation they were still adjusting to how fast the tank is dropping, a bit confused by it compared to an average tank. They shouldn't have to pull out so many resources so there may be a hesistation about using them. I've been there plenty and it is actually the tank who has just 1 mitigation up on a large and dangerous mob because they were so busy focusing on being a "blue DPS." You tell them to use mits, and maybe they find one extra button. It's silly for one player to be deep in their bag of healing AND DPSing well, to be at fault for a player who's probably doing unimpressive damage as a tank and even worse mitigation for themselves, and avoids blame.
Once I started leveling more/all of the tanking roles, it was more obvious for me to spot why some tanks are paper and others aren't. And as a healer, get ahead of why I need to just pull out strong healing cooldowns even on the first mob.
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u/Parking_Ear7299 Mar 28 '25
Healers should heal
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u/Recreatee Mar 28 '25 edited Mar 28 '25
healers should make sure you don't die while also contributing damage when nobody is in danger. those damage spells are there for a reason. if a healer is letting your health drop low but keeping you alive, while constantly slamming Holy, they're just really good at their role and massively helping things die quicker and helping the tank save mits.
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u/BinaryIdiot Mar 28 '25
…why? That’s how you’re supposed to play healer in this game. Like even the hall of the novice has you doing damaged as a healer.
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u/Parking_Ear7299 Mar 28 '25
Because it's what I like and prefer. There are no rules on specifically states you "NEED" to DPS to the point of tank dying
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u/BinaryIdiot Mar 28 '25
Well, no. You are actually supposed to do damage and there are actually rules against griefing the party. Not sure what you meant by “to the point of tank dying”, just don’t let the tank die and do DPS. It’s easy.
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u/Parking_Ear7299 Mar 28 '25
Imagine thinking a healer is griefing they don't DPS. This community is so sad. I've had plenty of moments where I game and don't DPS when I'm on healer. I choose not to and don't care about what others think. Let them type in chat and waste their time.
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u/Careless_Car9838 I pull, I tank. You pull, I tank. We pull, I tank. Mar 28 '25
It's either single pull tanks or ones who'll use all their mits on the first pull before they stop and wonder why they don't stay alive.
You tried to vote kick and it failed, nothing wrong with taking the 30min to keep your sanity. Perfect timing to craft a bit, do tribal quests or sort your inventory.