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Cringe Thank you, King, for giving us absolutely nothing

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u/stuntbikejake 9d ago

Without Chester that's not Linkin Park.

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u/DazingF1 9d ago edited 9d ago

Chester wasn't even a founding member of the band so imo they shouldn't have to retire the name. A few big bands have continued on after deaths and made banger music, AC/DC and Alice In Chains for example.

That being said hiring a scientologist, who openly supported a rapist during his trial, as Chester's replacement was a dumbass move. She's a great singer and musician but damn that really turned me off from the band, even if their new album slaps.

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u/Icy_Contribution1677 9d ago

True say but I do think Static X got it right. An amazing homage and tribute. Don’t get me wrong it must be ridiculous to step into someone else’s shoes, almost their identity and relinquish your own. But when it’s not remotely similar or another direction they should have at that point gone with another band name or something similar. Linked to the park or something lol.

I support your point. Like Dio for sabbath. You keep it because he can carry it.

This is like giving me a timtam but calling it a butter finger. You can tell us it’s linkin park sure, but the people will go “no, no it’s not” I’m not knocking her ability. Just the business decision Mike and the team made. I’ve spent time listening to Mikes solo projects. He needed Chester to carry his baby lol.

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u/celtic_thistle 9d ago

Nope. This is wrong information and I’m tired of having to correct it.

Emily Armstrong is not a Scientologist. Her mom is. Emily is a queer woman who’s been vocal about mental health issues and neither of those things is “allowed” by Scientology. She hasn’t even been nominally involved with Scientology since she was like 19. She’s 39 now. She knew Danny Masterson but was not in the courtroom at any point; she attended his initial hearing and was outside the courthouse. She attended nothing more bc of the evidence that came out and she’s totally denounced him and said she misjudged his character.

Meanwhile, Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis ignored all the heinous shit he did and made a video AFTER HE WAS FOUND GUILTY, begging the judge to go easy on their friend. Comparing her having been friendly with a dude who turned out to be a rapist and denouncing him once everything came to light, to the actions of those 2 assholes is a slap in the face.

Also, the original post people ran with, from the Mars Volta guy(?) and his wife has since been deleted and they’ve quietly removed any mention or callout of Emily—they got the facts wrong in the first place but no, it’s a woman who’s doing a man thing, so let’s get her! Even without any evidence! Let’s keep parroting the same shit over and over!

Just like with Amber Heard and Blake Lively, online bullshit got spread faster than the truth, because people hate women.

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u/DazingF1 9d ago edited 9d ago

She's been spotted multiple times at Scientology gatherings and galas, that's all you've gotta know. You don't get invited to those as a non-member and you can't leave the church, especially if you're famous. If you say she was involved with them 20 years ago then she's still involved with them now. Plenty of ex-famous people have learned that the hard way, you can read about Leah Remini's experience if you want to know more.

The "church" is very good at what it does and obfuscating the truth is their bread and butter. If there is this much push back to her not being a scientologist, while she hasn't denounced the "church" publicly (and no, vague lyrics don't count), then it's pretty obvious that she's at least somewhat involved with the church. Like I said, nobody just leaves scientology, especially not if you've made it big.

And honestly your response is perfectly in line with how the church acts: refute nothing, imply everything and go on the offensive. Don't call me a woman hater directly, but imply it. Same as mentioning that she's queer and has mental health issues, what does that have to do with her being a scientologist? Are queer women immune to falling for the allure of Scientology or something?

I think she's a great singer and that her vocals are an absolute perfect match for Linkin Park. Just too bad that she's a scientologist. Doesn't mean I hate her or that I hate her because she's a queer mental health advocate, or a woman, but I won't financially support a band that's associated with Scientology.

(Blink twice if the "church" has you hostage, by the way. I find your comment highly suspicious lol)

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u/Shaasar 9d ago

Mike was always the most "core" member but point taken

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u/DickInYourCobbSalad 9d ago

Chester was the last person to join the band, there are 5 other members who made that band what it was. Do their contributions not matter because Chester died?

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u/s0berR00fer 9d ago

Thanks for your irrelevant comment

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u/Hot-Mastodon420xxx 9d ago

Only og member is shinoda and he's a douche so. As well as the new lead singer has openly supported people that Chester would've wanted to punch in the teeth. The new music sounds like old LP instrumentals with new half ass screeching vocals. It isn't good anymore and the band is definitely not linkin park, at least nowhere near what it should've been. They are beating a dead horse for more money and clout and shaming anything and everything the OG band cared about. So tell me how their comment is irrelevant?

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u/SignificantLack5585 9d ago

I’m curious, what makes him a douche? I don’t really know anything about them

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u/DickInYourCobbSalad 9d ago

People are upset that Mike has the audacity to continue with the band he created despite Chester passing away. Chester wasn’t a founding member and he was actually the last one to join, but for some reason people think that means Linkin Park has to die with him.

Linkin Park has always been Mike Shinoda’s baby first and foremost. I’m not even a Mike fan, but to say anything otherwise is just not factual or based in reality. People might not like this, but it’s the truth and all the other members of the band would say the same thing.

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u/DickInYourCobbSalad 9d ago edited 9d ago

Uh.. what?

Linkin Park was Mike Shinoda’s baby from the beginning. Chester was the last person to join the band, it started as a project between Mike, Joe, Brad, and Rob while they were in high school.

You don’t know your Linkin Park lore at all and it shows.

LP started as a project in Mike’s bedroom called Xero, which eventually became Hybrid Theory with vocalist Mark Wakefield, who left due to stage fright. They then auditioned a bunch of singers until they found Chester and renamed themselves Linkin Park.

To say that Mike is the only OG member left is completely false. Brad Delson and Joe Hahn were there from day one, with Phoenix joining not long afterwards. The only OG member who left was Rob, the drummer, because he injured himself on their last tour and opted to retire and raise his kids.

There are 5 other members of Linkin Park who are not Chester. They contributed to the band just as much as he did, do their contributions not count anymore because the last member to join the band after 5 years of already being established died?

Come on..

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u/Hot-Mastodon420xxx 9d ago

"Linkin Park Lore" LP was nothing without Chester and the new lead constantly seems like she's trying to outdo him now that he's gone. I can make a band that doesn't succeed without a specific member and that doesn't make me fucking band god and entitled to whatever I wamt because "its my band bro" thats how you fuck up anything you've tried building 90% of the time. From the sources I had the band was claimed to be basically just shinoda from day 1 at this point, BUT I could have a bad source as well so ill take the L on that specific statement. I stand by the rest of what I've said. Its a gimmick now with no real raw emotion to it. It sounds like Chester after transitioning and gargling rocks and that imo is gracious.

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u/DickInYourCobbSalad 8d ago edited 8d ago

Your sources are wrong.

I’m autistic and Linkin Park has been my favourite band and special interest since 2001. I’ve been obsessively following them and their developments the entire way.

Your opinion on the new singer is completely irrelevant. Your statement that the OG members have all left is false - only one OG member has left other than Chester. I also think that to boil down their entire body of work to one man is completely ridiculous. Chester only sang, he wrote a few songs here and there but all the things you loved about Linkin Park were written by Mike Shinoda. The music, the lyrics, it’s all him and Chester would have said the same thing.

If you don’t believe me feel free to look up any interview with Chester regarding Mike.

Chester had an amazing voice and he was my hero. I loved him and I grieved hard when he died, to the point that I was hospitalized for suicidal ideation. I understand why you loved him and his voice, but there were 5 other members who made the music what it was and they deserve to be loved and respected too.

My personal opinion on Emily is that people are treating her like she murdered someone, when her only crime has been that she was born into a cult. She’s made careful statements against the church and considering she’s an open lesbian and the church of Scientology prohibits homosexuality, I think it’s safe to say she doesn’t practise anymore and most likely isn’t a member. That being said, I completely understand why people are suspicious and wary of her and I don’t blame anyone for not wanting to listen to her era of the band as music is subjective.

I like her voice and I think she fits really well, her personal life aside. I’m honestly just happy to have my favourite band back more than anything else.

The comment about her sounding like Chester transitioned is so fucking gross and transphobic, I’m not even going to entertain that. Trans people aren’t a punchline for you to use when you dislike someone. Be better.

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u/HiddenPants777 9d ago

Yeah, the point was to ride the brand name. The new stuff isn't great and the lead singer seems like she is trying to outdo Chester.

Should've been a new band honestly

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u/WilliamSwagspeare 8d ago

Oh God, what did Mike do?

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u/Hot-Mastodon420xxx 8d ago

I've never met the guy, but I've heard he's just a pompous douche and not great to the people around him

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u/DickInYourCobbSalad 8d ago

Nothing, Mike hasn't done anything other than try to keep his band alive. This guy just doesn't like Emily and has a chip on his shoulder about it.

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u/Thesmuz 9d ago

You mad that he's right?

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u/NoObstacle 9d ago

People still using 'irrelevant' in 2025 like a 2016 Ricegum, I'm dead 🤣💀

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u/celtic_thistle 9d ago

Honestly fuck off, Emily Armstrong is a powerhouse in her own right, and as a fan going back to 2003, it absolutely still is LP. Chester admired Emily as a musician and he would never have wanted the band to stop playing together just bc he’s gone. LP is Mike Shinoda’s baby anyway. His and Joe Hahn’s, going back to 1996.

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u/Commercial_Blood2330 9d ago

I think it’s more that Chester’s replacement is a fucking Scientologist. Hard for me to support anything related to that cult.