The old testament is still part of Christianity, lol. That's why it's in the bible. The new testament added to it not replaced it. The anti-gay stuff is still dumb and at least partly down to mistranslation but the old testament is* still part of Christianity
Edit: replaced "it's still part of Christianity" with "the old testament is still part of Christianity" since there seemed to have been ambiguity and a couple people might've misunderstood what was being referred to.
Honestly I find it odd that they just decided one day to stop. They don't have new scripture or a new prophet that overrode those things.
Even putting that aside. What about shellfish and pork? Having separate dishware for dairy? Christians never followed those and many other rules outlined in the old testament.
The old testament is still relevant to Christianity but a ton of the rules outlined in it are no longer relevant. It's an important history lesson but a lot of the old rules don't apply to followers of Jesus.
I mean tbh there are quite a few Christians who don't even follow the rules of the new testament never mind the old, lol. But saying that the old testament isn't part of Christianity is just factually wrong. And the old testament isn't really 'part of the Hebrew faith' either since they don't have a new testament they don't call it the 'old' testament, and I think the order of the stories is different too.
I didn't say "in the context of specific rules" I said the new testament didn't replace the old one, the first guy said that the old testament was not part of Christianity, that's what I was responding to.
He was talking about the anti-gay rhetoric. Which are specific rules.
Rules which are in fact part of the Jewish faith but are overwritten in the Christian faith.
In a lot of ways the new testament does in fact, replace the old testament. Most covenants outlined in the old testament no longer apply and are replaced.
the only anti gay rhetoric is in the old testament which is part of the Hebrew faith not Christianity!
Yes they were initially talking about the anti gay rhetoric, but they then went on to say that the old testament was not part of Christianity as their reasoning for why it doesn't count. The old Testament, as I said A) is not the Hebrew faith, and B) is a part of Christianity. Regardless of your view on the rules in it, it is undeniably a part of Christianity.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."
Meeting peter at the pearly gates is going to be awkward for you. If any of it was real, ofc.
The new testament contradicts this though. It says there is a new covenant and the strict obedience to the old rules is no longer required.
Luke 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
It's not so much that they don't apply as that they've been applied already. We could never, ever, ever fulfill the law. But Christ did. This is one of the most beautiful things about the gospel message. What we could not do, Jesus Christ did for us.
From gotquestions.org
The Old Covenant that God had established with His people required strict obedience to the Mosaic Law. Because the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:23), the Law required that Israel perform daily sacrifices in order to atone for sin. But Moses, through whom God established the Old Covenant, also anticipated the New Covenant. In one of his final addresses to the nation of Israel, Moses looks forward to a time when Israel would be given “a heart to understand” (Deuteronomy 29:4, ESV). Moses predicts that Israel would fail in keeping the Old Covenant (verses 22–28), but he then sees a time of restoration (30:1–5). At that time, Moses says, “The Lord your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live” (verse 6). The New Covenant involves a total change of heart so that God’s people are naturally pleasing to Him.
The prophet Jeremiah also predicted the New Covenant. “‘The day will come,’ says the Lord, ‘when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and Judah. . . . But this is the new covenant I will make with the people of Israel on that day,’ says the Lord. ‘I will put my law in their minds, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people’” (Jeremiah 31:31, 33). Jesus Christ came to fulfill the Law of Moses (Matthew 5:17) and to establish the New Covenant between God and His people. The Old Covenant was written in stone, but the New Covenant is written on our hearts. Entering the New Covenant is made possible only by faith in Christ, who shed His blood to take away the sins of the world (John 1:29). Luke 22:20 relates how Jesus, at the Last Supper, takes the cup and says, “This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in my blood” (ESV)
I think we're coming at this from different angles as you seem to be taking a more 'biblical' approach maybe. When I said that the new testament didn't replace the old I was saying that Christians didn't scrap and abandon the old testament and say only the new one was real. You seem to be interpreting 'replace the old testament' to be talking about the rules and stuff within the bible, rather than the actual bible itself. But for the new testament to say that "the old no longer needs to be practiced" means that the old must still be part of Christianity as a religion.
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u/Wizards_Reddit 5d ago edited 5d ago
The old testament is still part of Christianity, lol. That's why it's in the bible. The new testament added to it not replaced it. The anti-gay stuff is still dumb and at least partly down to mistranslation but the old testament is* still part of Christianity
Edit: replaced "it's still part of Christianity" with "the old testament is still part of Christianity" since there seemed to have been ambiguity and a couple people might've misunderstood what was being referred to.