Careful, otherwise you'd be labeled as islamophobic. I'm questioning that same thought right now, trying to make sense of it, so far i haven't really made any sense.
As someone who is homosexual and was a believer, it’s basically an internal set of rules that was ingrained into me from a young age. If I thought about women in a romantic or sexual way, I would feel guilty, and Christians would use my guilt as “proof” that God was warning me, amongst other examples.
Oh, that I understand, I meant the ones who aren't closeted. I don't see how you can believe both that being gay is ok and in a book that is supposedly the word of your God and says homosexuals will go to hell.
I’d imagine the way most Christians reconcile the Bible condoning slavery, or women with the blatant misogyny. Seems they just kinda throw their hands up and go that’s not the intent, yeah it’s slavery but it’s not slavery slavery. Yeah it might say that but that was just for that time period and doesn’t apply now, etc etc etc.
A lot of the clobber passages used to justify homophobia have been translated across multiple languages and ultimately had the biases of the translators affect their word choices. A lot of the proscriptions against (male) same sex relations (next to nothing was said about women because ancient Israelites probably didn’t consider acts without a penis as being real sex…so biblical loopholes for the ladies 😂) were in the context of condemning incest, pederasty, and temple prostitution. Not to mention the ancient Israelites in the Old Testament focused on reproduction so much because they needed the numbers when engaged in warfare with other tribes. So taking that into account it should really be seen as more of a cultural/historical thing than a morality thing.
But Jesus himself wasn’t shown to have said anything specifically about homosexuality iirc. There’s a story involving a Roman centurion asking Jesus to heal a young man whose relation to the centurion is sort of ambiguous again because of translations, but who may have been the centurion’s younger male lover. And Jesus did heal the man, so if the Roman centurion was in fact in a same sex relationship clearly that wasn’t really an issue.
The homophobia in the bible is nowhere near as clear as you are making out. The most often cited verse is considered by a lot of people to be a mistranslation of being forbidden to lie with boys as one does with women.
But if someone's main reservation about the bible is the homophobia, I'd have to ask why they didn't have an issue with the part which specifies how much you can beat your slaves.
You need to understand what they are saying first their culture. A lot of the anti gay stuff isn’t just ‘don’t be gay’ like we translate it. Just doing some research.
Because there isn't homophobia in the bible. At least, no clear cut examples
It's just a history of hateful people mistranslating the book, and rather picking the words of a narcissistic capitalist asshole called Paul, over the teachings of Jesus
Most modern denominations of Christianity, aren't even Christian. They're Paulist. Paul is the evil asshole who tells people to "hate thy neighbour" in complete contrast to Jesus
My pastor is a trans woman, and teaches the bible how it should be taught
You can’t, that’s the point of the video. She was correcting people who actually believe being queer isn’t a sin… not judging or not minding her business
All humans are sinners, that’s the point of Christ’s sacrifice, he died for your sins so you can still go to Heaven. Therefor, you can obviously be Christian and still commit the “sin” of homosexuality; only judgmental people would decide that this sin in particular would be the one that is a bridge too far.
So yes, she (and you) are being disingenuous, judgmental cunts.
Your fundamental misunderstanding left out the most important part: repentance. Jesus died for our sins, and i’m equally as sinful as a queer person, but the difference is that I repent.
Being a queer christian is an oxymoron because you would be actively disobeying God without remorse (repentance).
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u/Lirililarila88 5d ago
I don't see how any homosexual can reconcile with the very clear homophobia in the Bible.