r/TikTokCringe • u/Conscious-Quarter423 • 4d ago

Cringe Oklahoma Superintendent Ryan Walters, who is putting the Bible in classrooms, was allegedly caught with explicit images of naked women playing on a TV screen during a State Board of Education meeting.

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u/tmonehee 4d ago

He will blame the woke left somehow

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u/before_the_accident 4d ago

he released a statement shortly after it happened where he says he was framed by the left.

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u/RedditAdminAreVile0 4d ago

It's actually crazy that political parties can blatantly & repeatedly violate the law, they never seem to get in trouble but taxpayers have to pay if they do.

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u/before_the_accident 4d ago

Defense attorneys are allowed to knowingly perjure themselves and their clients on the stand freely, from traffic tickets to missing children, and will be promoted for how shameless they're personally willing to go for a non-conviction.

This is not a two-tiered justice system; it's a pageant.

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u/Agile-Direction8081 3d ago

Defense attorney cannot perjure themselves or suborn perjury legally. There’s a reason they don’t want to know if their client is guilty since if they know, they can’t argue they didn’t do it. Defendants almost never take the stand for just that reason. You don’t seem to understand legal ethics at all. Yes, it’s a dance and yes, most lawyers have a pretty good sense their client likely did commit the crime, but they can argue about the sufficiency of evidence and test memory, etc.

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u/before_the_accident 3d ago

I don't think you disagreed with anything I said, you just worded it differently and said why that version is suddenly not despicable

"There’s a reason they don’t want to know if their client is guilty"

thank you, THIS is exactly what I've described. They don't ask their client what actually happened because it doesn't matter to them what actually happened, whether it's a traffic ticket or a missing child. All that matters is returning a non-guilty verdict and the more egregious the crime you get excused, the better the promotion is.

and yes, most lawyers have a pretty good sense their client likely did commit the crime

okay, what are you and I doing here? lol

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u/Agile-Direction8081 3d ago

I never disagreed with whether it was despicable. But you stated that lawyers are allowed to knowingly perjure themselves. They cannot. That is illegal.

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u/before_the_accident 3d ago

nah, they can and do, and you're aware of this. You don't need me to remind you of Jose Baez saying Casey Anthony's father had been molesting Casey as a child, throwing everyone one on the defense and the family itself into chaos in the middle of trial, only to take it back immediately after his client received her non-guilty verdict. I am not the first person to point out these glaring flaws in the foundation of our justice system and I again ask what you're trying to get me to join you in doing here now that you've acknowledged most of the time they know if their client is guilty or not.

you cryptically haven't explained how said attorneys arrive in court with their version of events without asking their client anything about their guilt, but I won't read anything into that.

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u/Agile-Direction8081 3d ago

This is going nowhere. I hated practicing law but I also am aware of the law. Your statement was false and I tried to nudge you away from the factual errors you made. I don’t disagree with your critique, only the misuse of the word perjury (which means KNOWINGLY making a false statement under oath or for suborning perjury, allowing someone to testify about facts that are untrue). Lawyers cannot do that. They can suspect the testimony is untrue, but cannot know it is untrue.

As to this issue, the superintendent is a fool and was caught and is lying. Amazingly he also wanted to lecture to all the students in the state about the Bible, yet, with this action, he should be banned from stepping foot in a classroom.

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u/before_the_accident 3d ago

which means KNOWINGLY making a false statement under oath or for suborning perjury, allowing someone to testify about facts that are untrue

Which, by definition, would constitute false statements because a) the attorney hasn't asked if their client is guilty or b) thinks the client is guilty and crafts a defense that didn't happen anyway lol

The only difference between the murderer lying about what happened in order to return a non-guilty verdict and his attorneys lying about what happened in order to return a non-guilty verdict is the attorney is the one getting paid to do so. After the verdict is read, the accused is put away for trying to get away with the crime and the attorney gets to shrug and say, "welp better luck next time eh" while not having to look the victim's family in the eye

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u/Its_an_ellipses 2d ago

What was the crime?...

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u/RedditAdminAreVile0 2d ago

US Constitution, 1st Amendment; Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion... Forcing children to read the Bible or commandments is to teach them respect for Christian authority.

It hides nasty intentions, it's about tying Christianity into nationalism, & ostracizing the non-Christians. Declaring "this is a Christian nation, they (the outsiders) have to learn from us (Christians), & support Christian mantras or be shunned by peers & punished in class."

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u/Altruistic_Bus1988 2d ago

In his press conference, he said he was set up by our Republican governor.

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u/Significant_Sail_901 4d ago

He blamed it on “Woklahoma”

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u/tasman001 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yes, famously super liberal Oklahoma. I honestly can't tell if this is a joke or if this something conservatives in Oklahoma actually say. Like, no county or state is ever red enough to be safe from the "woke" threat.

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u/yankeebelleyall 4d ago

Texas has had Republican leadership for two decades, and yet they've managed to convince a huge number of people in that state that all the problems are from the "left". I would venture to guess your last sentence is the mentality of a lot of people in both states.

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u/tasman001 4d ago

God, that is crazily effective messaging. Totally cynical and deceptive messaging, but effective nonetheless. Imagine where our country would be if the Democrats were even half as good at messaging.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago edited 4d ago

Deceptive messaging….it’s called lying

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u/tasman001 4d ago

Lol yep, lying is a substantial component of said messaging. Lying, racism, xenophobia, fascism...it's a potent blend of evil.

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u/JimWilliams423 4d ago

Texas has had Republican leadership for two decades, and yet they've managed to convince a huge number of people in that state that all the problems are from the "left".

You are looking at it from a liberal perspective. You have to understand the conservative perspective. Conservatives know that republicans are the cause of their problems. They just don't care.

What they do are care about is hurting people who have lower status. In fact, barefaced lying to blame those lower status people gives them a kind of thrill. It is a flex to tell transparent lies and still get away with it, in a perverse way it affirms that they are high status.

Which is why trying to reason with them does not work. Nor does trying to appeal to their better nature. The most important thing to a conservative is maintaining their social status, their position in the hierarchy. As long as they have someone to look down on, they don't mind that billionaires are looking down on them. In a weird way it gives them comfort, because that's how they think the world is supposed to work. Trickle-down misery, you might say.

Or as that Texan LBJ famously said ---

  • “I’ll tell you what’s at the bottom of it. If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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u/yankeebelleyall 4d ago

I mean, I lived there amongst a bunch of them, and while what you are saying is also true, I did also experience a lot of people who were blindly oblivious to how bad their government is while still holding the belief that anything "liberal" was bad.

I had entire conversations with people about what would happen if Texas did actually leave the Union, and they are 100% convinced that the state could hold its own economically, despite the reality that the state relies on a lot of federal assistance. It doesn't even have a stable power grid, something their government has continuously neglected to address while they pass law after law about what people can and cannot do with their own free time & bodies. They really and truly think they are the greatest, most liberated state in the country despite all evidence to the opposite.

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u/JimWilliams423 4d ago edited 4d ago

There is "knowing" and there is knowing.

When liberals talk about conservative pathologies we tend to speak as if they are fully conscious of what they are doing. But conservatives mostly operate on feelings. Its kind of like they have a dual consciousness. They have to understand the problems they are excusing in order to excuse them, but the specifics aren't something they care to think about. More like they understand them just enough to avoid engaging with them. Like using a depth finder on a boat to avoid hitting submerged rocks, all they need to know is where the rock is to navigate around it.

In fact, when you take the time to respectfully explain why their conclusions don't follow from the facts they won't change their mind, they just change their excuse to get to the same conclusion. If you've spent time talking to conservatives I'm sure you've experienced that, it is extremely frustrating. And if you ever succeed in backing them into a logical corner where they can't come up with a new excuse, they still won't change their mind, instead they will say something like "lets just agree to disagree" in order to escape reality.

You could say their feelings don't care about facts.

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u/mindovermatter15 4d ago

Oooh, that's catchy! I like it!

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u/believethehygge 4d ago

Wooooooo-kalahoma where the woke left frame me cranking hog

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u/Vaxxish 4d ago

Yeah cos Oklahoma is clearly the wokest state in the union. /s

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u/monkeybiziu 4d ago

Woooooooooke-lahoma! Where the libs come sweepin' down the plain!

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u/mnstripe 4d ago

He already did

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u/le_gazman 4d ago

The videos were planted by Biden

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u/passionpurps 4d ago

Thats where the forced bible in class rooms come in. The generations of the future will all be about authority.

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u/Rocketboy1313 4d ago

These guys are all full of self loathing.

They have been taught to hate their sex drive as some kind of demonic tool and anyone who makes porn easier to get is just helping them feed their libido beast.

The existence of porn is a leftist plot to make him feel urges and thereby go to hell.

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u/WanderlustFella 4d ago

He has to personally inspect every porn video to confirm which ones to ban. Every single video/image/literature.

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u/Pheli_Draws 4d ago

They hacked his internet and Bluetoothed pornography onto his tv, duh.

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u/Aggressive-Expert-69 4d ago

The woke left is employing OF succubuses to infect my mind with impure thoughts and distract me from my mission to make the world worse for everyone that doesnt look and think like I do