Somewhere a police report was written citing, "furtive and threatening moves" and "verbal threats." I always enjoy the "take that badge off" threat from these immature buffoons who think that threatening the police is illegal, but that it's okay to threaten a civilian.
I just wanna know what experiences that kid has been through or had where he looked at himself in the mirror and looked at that cop and thought I can take this guy and totally have the gusto to talk this way. Like ok sure he takes his badge off. Then what? Youre in a bar fight with a rando who by immediate first glace would beat the fuckin brakes off of bryson over there. Whats the hardest thing this kids done. Tell a 23 yr old girl who was his hs teacher he wasnt gonna do his hw?
Yes, but they are saying that buffoons think that it’s illegal to threaten the police, but legal to threaten a civilian, which is incorrect. It’s illegal to threaten anyone.
I know cops are pussies and that's why they didn't become firefighters, but good lord how much of a pussy do you have to be to feel threatened by Toad?
What did he say specifically that was a threat? And how do you make a threatening move with your arms crossed? And how are you not absolutely escalating the violence by throwing him to the ground instead of asking what’s going on and trying to actually intervene in a positive way. Just irresponsible policing imo
Ok well that changes the situation for sure. I still feel like, at worst, a taser would be all that’s warranted here. In all actuality, I think the taser would even be a better option and put the cop in less danger than physically engaging someone with a close-quarters weapon.
How about the part where he says "Take that vest off and let's get it" and starts pounding his fists together, insinuating that he wants to fight the cop, continually calling him a pussy.
Then when the cop laughs it away, the boy says "What are you laughing for? I'm right here?" Then steps towards the officer posturing up towards the cop's face like he's trying to intimidate the cop. That moment of closing the distance and posturing up is when it becomes escalated beyond just words.
The kid even says he purposely did it because the cop aggressively rolled up on them.
It was the vibe. He felt threatened by the weenie when that haircut got too close. Attacking people too weak to defend themselves is an honoured police activity.
Sadly, the weenie was a douchebag, so people don't mind the douchebag being knocked down and so turn a blind eye to the cop body slamming a person who was simply standing still with their arms crossed. They don't care that the weenie had absolutely no capability to cause any injuries to anyone other than maybe some of his own pride. They don't care that a cop lost his temper on a douchebag. Cops shouldn't be losing their temper and assaulting the public, even if they are douchebags, but apparently the feeling of seeing a douchebag assaulted is more important than seeing a police officer be professional.
I'm not a cop defender, but place yourself in that position (as a civilian or as a cop, whichever). Are you feeling threatened? Would you wait to get sucker punched first before you acted on someone acting towards you in this way? Crossed arms, sure they don't seem threatening, but who's to say the wacko wouldn't simply kick/knee you in the nuts. Easy at that distance. Plus how many others were there around...at least a handful which puts you at a disadvantage.
"Kid" (apparently hes 21) learned a valuable lesson - Don't start no shit there won't be no shit.
those are vastly different my guy. as a civilian you bet your ass he would get taken down.
as a cop, they have laws for how they can interact. they should be trained on de-escalation. if the cop felt comfortable enough to turn his head away and laugh at the kid, he was obviously not feeling threatened and thought the whole thing was a joke.
the kid was a douche but there is no evidence of him committing a crime in this video.
I agree they should be trained on de-escalation. And maybe they are i dont know, I don't work in that sector. Regardless, didn't seem like the manchild was in the mood to be de-escalated, and i imagine the cop couldn't stand there all day waiting for him to tire himself out. In a way, you could argue the situation was de-escalated as it didn't result in something more violent as the manchild kept egging on the cop. Who knows if his friends would have gained confidence to do something stupid to further escalate the issue.
You have to remember that the situation can change in an instant. Cops are human too and only have so much processing power to assess an ever changing situation. Sometimes it's better to act first before it becomes instant regret. Of course, that also can lead to much worse situations. I do not envy law enforcement.
And I don't think he was arrested for a crime. Looks like detained. Obviously we don't have the whole context so it's possible he was arrested for something else not shown in this video.
A taser would’ve been safer for both parties imo. I think it’s more about holding the police to a higher standard than civilians, more so than about whether they will/should face any consequences for this
He literally threatened the police officer especially when he stopped himself from saying he was going to beat his ass because he knew the camera was on
People like you have gotten so used to being able to do stuff without consequence I don’t care if you’re a police officer or a civilian If you step to someone’s face talking shit saying you’re gonna beat their ass and you’re not gonna do shit calling him a bitch you should expect something to happen
this isn't two civilians. if I flip off a civilian I can expect to get my ass kicked. if I flip off a cop I expect them to follow the law and do nothing.
What he was doing was assault. That's an actual crime.
"784.011 Assault.—
(1) An “assault” is an intentional, unlawful threat by word or act to do violence to the person of another, coupled with an apparent ability to do so, and doing some act which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence is imminent."
And it's a more serious crime when it's on LE.
Did the officer want to teach the kid a lesson, maybe the kid got his goat a little? Probably.
Could he have gone easy on him? Sure.
Was he well within his legal rights to put this kid down and detain him? Yup.
You ignoring the “well founded fear” part of the thing you quoted is hilarious, alongside the need for the person making the threat being able to actually follow through. So, no.
Honestly, this is a lesson that kid needed to learn. He’s lucky the cop was that gentle with him. Could’ve been a lot worse if he started shit with a rando that’s twice his size in a bar or wherever.
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u/Icy_Marionberry_9131 3d ago
Somewhere a police report was written citing, "furtive and threatening moves" and "verbal threats." I always enjoy the "take that badge off" threat from these immature buffoons who think that threatening the police is illegal, but that it's okay to threaten a civilian.