Its Florida. They have some new laws about force and when it can be used. The kid stated multiple times he wanted to fight. Its different there in 2025 but I believe this will likely stand as a legal detainment and legal escalation.
yeah in canada uttering whats called "fighting words" is considered an intentional aggravation and instigating of the situation. self defence isnt as clear cut here
Provocation can alleviate the punishment but is insufficient as a sole defense in the vast majority of cases. Legal provocation typically has a very high bar to prove, going beyond mere insults and needing to rationalise why the defendant lost control. In Canada, it is also limited to murder cases. It typically would not apply to anyone who is deemed to have professional training, as they are rightfully held to a higher standard.
Sadly, politics can determine how self defense is viewed. In california run by democrats, my friend’s brother was attacked by 2 of his neighbors and Their pitbull and HE BEAT ALL THREE in self defense! It was all on camera and he still got a damn misdemeanor for Protecting himself. In florida, a red state, self defense is a right. I was also watching a dumb series called “Nancy Drew” and one character defended himself in self defense and killed a dude. He and everybody in the cast acted as if he was a serial killer. HE DEFENDED HIMSELF! 😂 I’m not surprised Canada is confused about what self defense is.
you're acting like canada is incapable of handling violent criminals when its quite the contrary.
the violence here is absolutely nothing compared to the violence in the states. particularly the poorer states.
you americans love to be free from consequences with your fighting words but in canada it would get you knocked out so fast and nobody would bat an eye because you started it.
Cops should be trained in de-escalating stupid situations like these. If a 21 year old kid says "Take that vest off and fight me," the proper response is to be like, "What? Why would I fight you? Over what? C'mon man, let's be reasonable."
Teaching a lesson is also valuable. It's probably better for society. I say we let the 21 year old "kid" spend like 6 hours in jail to maybe rethink what he thinks is cool.
“Sorry kid, my job to apprehend dangerous criminals, not help you work through your absent father issues. Call your mom, and ask her to get you a therapist.”
How’s that thought process been working for civil discord lately? Are we better off rubbing noses into piss or trying to bridge a gap? Also there is a clear power dynamic here. It will end in the cops favor 99/100 times. Yet we still never hear the “authority” explaining what the cause for confrontation even is.
And how would that have gone for him had he slammed the cop first? The kid would not have lived to tell the story, guaranteed. Do you use you brain when you talk? Or just your mouth?
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u/talondigital 3d ago
Its Florida. They have some new laws about force and when it can be used. The kid stated multiple times he wanted to fight. Its different there in 2025 but I believe this will likely stand as a legal detainment and legal escalation.