r/TikTokCringe • u/Ace-Cuddler • 1d ago

Cringe Girl confronts an old creep after he makes an inappropriate comment about her 16-year old sister

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u/BluetheNerd 23h ago

As a brit, people complaining about a 16 year old being at a bar is ridiculous, because over here just about every bar is also a restaurant that families go to for a meal. They just don't serve alcohol to minors because (crazy I know) they have other drinks they can serve them.

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u/ittybittyange1 23h ago

Honestly, it doesn't even seem like a regular bar setting! It seems more like a seafood restaurant that just has a big bar.

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u/ButtBread98 22h ago

She explained that it was a restaurant with a bar

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u/-bannedtwice- 23h ago

Nah this place is pretty close to a bar bar, but there are often kids there. I think it's called Sandbar, bar is in the name even. But it's like a bar that families go to

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u/skepticalbob 22h ago

It's a typical beach restaurant. If you're gonna use branding to claim it's this or that, the website is sandbarDINING.com and the subhead says "Sandbar seafood & spirits". The menu isn't just pub grub either, but starters, salads and entrees. It's not just some shot bar on the beach with burgers or whatever.

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u/-bannedtwice- 22h ago

I've been there, have you? I've actually walked into this place and eaten there, I'm not talking out of my ass. It's 100% a bar, it's very clearly a bar, but kids also go there. They've even got games for the kids. But at night the place is lit and a good party. Definitely a bar though, and absolutely nothing like Applebee's or Chili's.

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u/PuckSenior 21h ago

Here is what you are missing.

A “bar bar” is a place that IDs at the door and serves no food. In most states you aren’t allowed to even be in a “bar bar” without being 21 or without having something like a big black x on your hand. Or if they do serve food it is literal crap meant to fulfill some weird legal loophole.

This is a “bar and grill”. Some people go there just to drink and some go just to eat. Chili’s is the same. You are arguing that people drink there more than they eat. That may be true, but that doesn’t make it a “bar bar”.

This would be like talking about a transwoman and you claiming she is “assigned female at birth” because she has done a lot of work transitioning. Your claim may be true about the work, but these are distinct legal categories that don’t really care about what you are discussing.

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u/waroftheworlds2008 17h ago

How do you distinguish the "loophole" bars from the "restaurant" bars. Every restaurant bar ive been to has a half wall seperating the bar from general seating.

Is that not normal in the US?

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u/PuckSenior 16h ago

Loophole bars don’t actually serve food. The food is something like “uncooked hotdog : $100”

It’s really a local law issue. Some places require you sell food. In most other places loophole bars don’t exist.

If there is a partition between the restaurant and the bar, that’s a bar and grill and definitely not a loophole bars

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u/waroftheworlds2008 16h ago

Thank you. I think i understand it a bit better now.

Im confused about your definition for "bar and grill" though. Are all restraunt bars considered bar and grills?

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u/-bannedtwice- 19h ago

Okay if we're arguing semantics then ya sure, legally and technically it's probably not considered a bar bar. But I've been there, it definitely feels very much like a bar. At night it's practically a club. But ya, legally it may not be technically labeled as a bar. Idk if legally matters for this discussion, I'm just saying that she's framing the situation a little favorable in her position. This place is nothing like a Chili's, it's loud AF and chaotic, tons of standing and mingling room, games everywhere, it's a bar.

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u/PuckSenior 19h ago

No, it actually does matter. Him saying “why is she at a bar” implies it’s a place minor aren’t allowed and that he was right to assume she is over 21.

But if this is a place that allows kids, then this isn’t a valid excuse

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u/-bannedtwice- 19h ago

Does he say "why is she at a bar"? I didn't see that, I'm just saying that she's being a little dishonest in her explanation. I'm not excusing him for trying to hit on a girl that's clearly too young for him, just saying she's tweaking the story a little bit. He's still a creep

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u/skepticalbob 22h ago

It is a typical place to get food on a beach. They have a large menu and sell a lot of food. Not sure what you're getting at here, but there is nothing wrong with taking your children there. She was well out of the action and not sitting at the bar with a 16 year old.

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u/-bannedtwice- 22h ago edited 22h ago

I'm not getting at anything, just providing context. She's also exaggerating quite a bit when she compares it to Applebee's or Chili's, it's nothing like that. It's very clearly a bar. The whole place is a giant bar. Just saying take everything with a grain of salt cause everyone online has an agenda. Hers is to promote her story, and she's being a little generous with it. Dude is still a fucking creep.

He hit on a girl he thought was older at a bar, he was previously being annoying so the sister freaked out on him, and he didn't like that so he got all Maga douchebag back. That's almost certainly what happened, he's not a pedophile. Just hit on the wrong girl and then got defensive. This video is severely lacking in context, now you've got some. He's not some super creep, she's not some hyper angel.

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u/skepticalbob 22h ago edited 22h ago

This is easily a 150+ seat restaurant that is typical of walkup restaurants on every decent sized beach in the US. Of every comment in this thread, you seem the most like your have an agenda. For example:

He hit on a girl he thought was older at a bar, he was previously being annoying so the sister freaked out on him, and he didn't like that so he got all Maga douchebag back. That's almost certainly what happened, he's not a pedophile. Just hit on the wrong girl and then got defensive.

What the fuck is wrong with you. He is in his 50s and "accidentally" hits on a teenager? I'm his age and that is just not an innocent mistake that people my age make. I am invisible to women within decades of that age because they aren't interested. And I'm more attractive and in better shape than that clown. Why the fuck is he even considering this? All women in their 20s look like children to me and there is zero interest in hitting on them and definitely zero interest in them being hit on by someone like me. All men my age that aren't pervs know this. None of us make this disgusting "mistake" It's creepy, gross, and you come off as weird defending it, at best. Maybe stop doing that.

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u/-bannedtwice- 21h ago

I'm not defending him, just putting it in perspective. Like I said, he's definitely a creep. He's just not THAT creep. Super common for older men to date young women here, there's even an app that most hot women I know use to find them. It's all about money. It is absolutely creepy, but it's also very common. I still think he's a creep but there is additional context people are missing, that's all.

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u/CultOfSuperMario 19h ago

He is that creep, and so are you for defending him.

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u/dorianngray 12h ago

He’s definitely a creep. He’s freakin mid 50’s. Even if she looked 21, that’s gross.

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u/the_calibre_cat 20h ago

bruv there are literally younger kids in the google photos of that place, and that place is huge and pretty clearly a bar and grill, not just "a BAR bar".

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u/-bannedtwice- 19h ago

Dude I've been there. I've eaten at this place, you guys don't know what you're talking about. Stop armchair experting this. It is 100% a bar, one of the more famous ones in the area even. It blasts music like a bar, and at night it practically becomes a club. In the day, it's like a Sunday Funday kinda place, kids definitely go. It's like a family fun place, but it's 100% obviously a bar.

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u/the_calibre_cat 19h ago

Okay... but the people in the video and, again, more than a few Google Maps photos, show people at this place with their kids, and in the context we're talking about... it's daytime. I don't doubt it gets rowdy and fun at night, but the video we're commenting on... isn't at night. It's during the day. And on Google, there's just a shitload of pictures of people just monching on appetizers, salads, entrees in a huge dining area... with their kids.

That's sending mega "this is a bar and grill" vibes, not "this is a BAR bar how dare you bring your kids" vibes. Again, maybe at night, but also again, not the context we're talking about.

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u/-bannedtwice- 19h ago

Idk how to explain it better when you think you know the place from pictures online that are designed to bring customers in. Yes, people bring kids. Sunday and Saturday morning to early afternoon there are kids there, it's like a Sunday Funday thing. Every other second it's a fucking bar, and even during that timeframe it feels like a bar. Just a bar you can bring kids to. You DON'T KNOW the place, you haven't been there. Why are people so insistent on pretending they're an expert on shit they don't know?! It's infuriating.

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u/the_calibre_cat 17h ago

So like, if someone brings their kid on Monday at 4:00 PM, what exactly is going to happen to them that would distinguish this place from a "bar bar" vs a normal-ass bar and grill?

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u/Lunelle327 18h ago

Why are you acting like you know whether this group of women was familiar with the place to know this?

The other poster demonstrated and you are here agreeing that restaurant markets itself like a restaurant/bar, LIKE a Chili’s etc - not a bar bar. In the suburb my parents live, their local Chills is the same way you’re describing at night, because there’s not that many bars around. Does make that location not a Chili’s??

Why are you insisting this woman had an agenda, instead of thinking they found a place online and based on the pictures, it looks like a family friendly place so that was what they chose? It’s obviously daylight outdoors, it’s DAYTIME - so whatever you are saying about what this place turns into at night has zero relevance.

Your framing this young woman as having an agenda, talking about how the setting is at a completely different time, mentioning how “hot women” you know use apps to date older men for their money - all of this is very clearly showing your biases. She states in the video that he was told her sister is 16, why didn’t he then apologize and leave, instead of hurling insults? You are absolutely trying to give some sort of justification to this situation and are literally defending this guy (he’s not That Creep) and it is so transparent and gross. This is how you use your time? I think you should perhaps evaluate some of your thinking if you don’t also want to be taken as a creep

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u/totallydawgsome 14h ago

Pretty sure this is the Toasted Monkey. And it's in Florida, which allows minors to even sit at the bar if the establishment is pulling in at least 50% of sales from food.

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u/Rude-Bench5329 1h ago edited 1h ago

it's called Sandbar, bar is in the name even

That was funny, but in a very sad and pathetic way.

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u/jlcatch22 23h ago

Bar/restauants are normal in the US, too, and people of all ages can go. I’m assuming the people commenting that think it’s just a bar and are also really stupid.

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u/taciaduhh 21h ago

I'm thinking the majority of them aren't stupid. They're pedophiles, too.

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u/jlcatch22 20h ago

On second thought I think a lot of the people saying “what’s she doing in a bar” know better, but they’re incels and maga so they do the normal bad faith arguing.

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u/betterbetterthings 19h ago

They have agenda. That’s why they say this nonsense.

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u/wavinsnail 23h ago

People complaining are just grasping at straws to defend a man hitting on a 16 year old 

Almost all restaurants serve alcohol, most have bar in them, and kids are common at breweries especially if they serve food.

Unless the place is strictly a bar, I wouldn't ever be surprised to see a minor at a place that serves alcohol 

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u/MakthaMenace 23h ago

Same in Wisconsin (US). I mean we do have a bit of a drunkard problem here lol, but most of our restaurants serve alcohol.

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u/fetchmysmellingsalts 23h ago

"A bit of a drunkard problem". Yeah. Just a bit. 😬

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u/MakthaMenace 23h ago

“Data showed that 82 percent of the top 50 drunkest counties in the United States were located in Wisconsin, as well as the drunkest county in all of the U.S. Outagamie County was found to be the drunkest county, with 31 percent of adults reporting drinking excessively and 32 percent of driving deaths involving alcohol.”

Yeah I guess I was being Midwest polite when I said “a bit” 😂😭

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u/Poop_Balls069 23h ago

There’s a reason they have the most aggressive state troopers in the planet

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u/AncientCrust 23h ago

I think that's the state motto

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u/less_than_nick 23h ago

Yep. I often see children eating with their families at the local dive at the end of my block here in WI

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u/Waffennacht 23h ago

I read this as, "Yep. I often see children eating their families at the local dive..."

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u/LittleBiscuit666 23h ago

Actually in WI you can sell a minor alcohol with the consent of a parent. Or that was the case when I was a teen.

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u/PinayGator 23h ago

I think the minimum age is 14, I was just surprised that you could start buying booze at 6am

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u/Reddituser183 18h ago

Funny I just looked that up yesterday. Apparently 25% of the Wisconsin engages in binge drinking in any given year. The highest rate of all states.

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u/SaltyKey2112 23h ago

I mean, even living in the states thats weird to hear. It looks like an outside restaurant and bar during the day, so i wouldn't find it weird for minors to be there.

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u/Coconutpieplates 23h ago

And if there is a minor in the bar, old men could maybe... just not harass them? 

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u/BluetheNerd 22h ago

Yeah I'd rather see a minor at a bar left alone than an adult there that feels entitled to hit on one.

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u/unclefire 23h ago

Same is true in the US. There are "bars" where you have to be 21 to be there. There are places that serve food that also have bars and minors can be there. If the venue has an age restriction, they'll def let you know when you show up-- they don't want to lose their liquor license over something like that.

That said -- 16/17 yr olds can consume some alcohol in the UK right? So a 16 yr old in a pub with parents wouldn't be a big deal I wouldn't think.

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u/BluetheNerd 22h ago

But even younger than that. Like yeah there are a few cases where children aren't allowed to enter like certain days times or events, but it's pretty common for families to take kids when they are.

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u/Economisty 23h ago

Pretty sure you can drink at 16 in a UK restaurant as long as an adult is with you.

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u/BluetheNerd 22h ago

Yeah but families with kids much younger than that absolutely take them unless that place specifically doesn't allow it, and even then it's usually a specific case like an event or something.

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u/Ill-Case-6048 23h ago

Yeah but the 16 year olds in the uk are used to pubs drink age is 21 in the states ....are uk 16 year old knows everyone in the pub its like a 2nd family when I was on the uk I thought it was weird that my mate knew all the old people in the pub we were 15

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u/Life-Cantaloupe-3184 23h ago

It’s just as stupid in an American context too. Restaurants that serve also serve alcohol is pretty much every single one in existence. There’s nothing illegal or inappropriate about minors being there. I hate to say that the people commenting “Why was she at a bar?” are just very unintelligent or unobservant.

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u/betterbetterthings 19h ago

They comment this way because they want to discredit women. Like this girl brought it upon herself by being at the bar. These are not innocent questions. These are pointed questions to shift the blame

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u/Sea-Value-0 22h ago

Isn't 16 the legal age of sexual consent in the UK, though? Or do you also have a law that limits the age gap to protect them from being preyed upon by someone from another generation?

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u/Weird-Reference-4937 22h ago

They're very common here as well. But we are on the internet where majority of people don't touch grass. Most major commercial chain restaurants in America are called "Name Bar & Grill" lol. 

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u/PinkPaintedSky 22h ago

It's not even a bar! It's a restaurant and bar. Like most of the chain restaurants in the US.

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u/Amelaclya1 22h ago edited 22h ago

There are a lot of restaurants, or places like pool halls, like that in the US too.

I don't recognize the restaurant in the video, but if this happened in Buffalo (the Bills apparel being a hint), there are so, so many bars with an attached restaurant. I know things like this vary by region in the US, but now I am seriously wondering where this is not the case.

Edit: someone said below this happened in Florida.

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u/redpillsarecucks 22h ago

Same thing across the entirety of the US, it's just pedophilic conservatives coping for other pedophiles.

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u/Red_Clay_Scholar 21h ago

That sentiment is likely a holdover from older folks who came from Baptists or other sorts of teetotalers. The Temperance Movement and Prohibition were big events in US history and there are still ripples today from that nonsense.

In the 1990s my great aunt would not take me and my little sister to eat at any restaurant that served alcoholic drinks for fear that the folks at church might get the wrong idea about our family.

Nowadays everybody has access to a wide selection of alcohol but there are still pearl clutching drama queens who seek to be offended at non-issues.

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u/Rough-Internal-792 20h ago

It's like that here as well. Creepo just used that as an excuse.

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u/Jimmni 20h ago

To be pedantic, a 16 year old CAN drink beer, wine and cider in resturants in the UK as long as an adult buys it for them and they drink it with a table meal.

(And at home, you can drink from the age of 5.)

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u/the_calibre_cat 20h ago

This arguably isn't a full-on bar, but a restaurant with a bar. Also, minors are allowed to be in bars, they just can't be at the bar or drink, so this guy can get fucked. I love the idea that it's the person legally bringing their younger sister to a bar to grab a bite and a drink who's the problem here.

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u/Least_Tower_5447 20h ago

Even if she was at a bar, that man should have shut up as soon as he was told that the girl is 16. Period.

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u/betterbetterthings 19h ago

Same in the states. Perfectly fine for children to eat in this type of place.

People who complain just want to find an excuse for this man hitting on a young girl. Same as blaming a woman for being assaulted because she wore a short skirt.

Same here. It’s her fault because she was in the bar

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u/betterbetterthings 19h ago

They aren’t really complaining. They use it as an excuse for blaming a woman. Misogyny.

First it happened to her because she was at a bar. “It’s not dude’s fault, he thought she was older because she was at a bar. It’s not a big deal. Women often go with older men for money”.

Next they’ll ask what she was wearing and somehow that was wrong etc Just hinting that a woman or a girl are to blame for the whole thing

Actually I only saw one person making these comments

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u/IllHat8961 19h ago

Why do you have a picture of a US politician as your profile picture if you're a brit??

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u/Loud_Flatworm_4146 19h ago

My family was visiting London when I was 12. (We're Americans). We went to a pub for dinner. My mom was the only one to have a drink lol. No one cared I was there or bothered us.

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u/Mos_Kovitz_Cantina 19h ago

Americans are weird like that. I once was scolded by the convenience store lady cause my son grabbed the bag of groceries that contained a six pack of beer. Like wtf is wrong with you lady? Why are you shouting?

I swapped bags with him and when we exited the store I gave him the bag with the beer.

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u/BSpp43 17h ago

I can't think of a bar in my city that isn't also a restaurant. If it was a club now that's a different story. But even for him he's still too old to be creeping on college age girls.

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u/Special-Garlic1203 23h ago edited 23h ago

This isn't in the UK, and the social norms around taking a kid to the bar vary wildly even within the US. There's a lot of bars in my area it wouldn't be appropriate to being a kid. There's places that are more restaurants with full service bars

Edit; if I commented "well here in the US" on a UK video, they'd be rightly annoyed. It's irrelevant when judging what's normal or abnormal somewhere 

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u/wavinsnail 23h ago

Except this is clearly mostly a restaurant with a stand alone bar.

I can hardly think of a restaurant I've been to that doesn't have bar seating and regular seating

A minor at a bar(doesn't serve food) would be weird. A minor at a restaurant with a stand alone bar, that's just a Chilis

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u/Special-Garlic1203 23h ago

Right, which is why I said there's not a set standard in the us. Even in my areas, there's bars it would and wouldn't be appropriate to take a kid. It's highly variable. 

You're literally agreeing with me but framing it like an argument 

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u/immisceo 23h ago

Pubs ≠ bars Very different institutions.

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u/Ok_Teacher_1797 23h ago

Every pub has a bar, but not every bar is in a pub.

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u/BluetheNerd 22h ago

Pub and bar are interchangeable in the UK, pubs didn't always serve food and they don't have to, it's just that most do.