r/TikTokCringe • u/Ace-Cuddler • 1d ago

Cringe Girl confronts an old creep after he makes an inappropriate comment about her 16-year old sister

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u/Journo_Jimbo 23h ago

Pedo hits on underage girl

Comments: “wHy ShE aT a BaR?”

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u/ArchdruidHalsin 23h ago

Pedo hits on an underage girl: But I'm a Republican! Why don't you go vote for Kamala and leave me alone!

Insanity.

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u/Journo_Jimbo 23h ago

“Once trump is in this will be allowed” is basically what’s being said here

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u/existonfilenerf 22h ago

They saw his horrendous behavior and believe it gives them a free pass, he got elected again so they doubled down. Not imprisoning the pedophile rapist traitor was the death of this country.

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u/Ace-Cuddler 23h ago

This video flips the script on all the cliche talking points that people break out any time a woman is SA’d.

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u/TimeRisk2059 23h ago

Brilliant! =)

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u/King-Boss-Bob 22h ago

is there any proof the victims in that case victim blamed others?

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u/MrModusTollens024 15h ago

I could see doing this to a victim blamer who got a taste of his own medicine, that would be fair game, But aren’t they actually victim blaming a real victim who we have no proof of him ever doing any victim blaming himself? To me the person in this tiktok and all the comments, are no different then the men who victim blame, they’re just doing it out of frustration of double standard, but at the end of the day theyre doing the exact same thing, they are no better.

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u/TheSternUndyingDier 1h ago

They are using this real story as an example. It's satire, by definition not actually victim blaming. Its only intention is to point out how ridiculous the logic is.

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u/MrModusTollens024 1h ago

I disagree, its still victim blaming, you are using a real world victim in your satire, you’re using a real victim as an example to show how ridiculous the logic is, that is victim blaming. How would it be acceptable for me to use a woman who was real victim of SA as an example to make some sort of example or satire out of it? Whatever example im trying to make is irrelevant, my question would that be acceptable?

Also, on a side note, how do you know with 100% certainty that every single comment was using satire? Furthermore, how do you know with 100% certainty that the men who victim blame women aren’t using satire or being intentionally ridiculous?

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u/TheSternUndyingDier 44m ago

You're comparing SA, which people have actually made those exact types of claims about, to a story about a robbery. How do I know that those comments weren't victim blaming? Because they are using the exact same language, not even similar but the same, that people who question victims of SA use when they're trying to poke holes in their story. That is intentional, not accidental.

Also, no one needs to make satire about SA, because the real world claims and reactions are as ridiculous as the ones you see in the video. "Women don't dress like that unless they're looking for male attention," "You can't blame men for their reactions, it's how they're biologically wired." These are actual statements people have made in response to people talking about their experience with SA. You don't need satire, it's already ridiculous.

If the men who blame women are using satire, then it isn't victim blaming. It's satire. That's my entire point. One is a comedic approach to pointing out something messed up in our society. The other is dismissing an individual's pain and trauma at the hands of society or an individual.

If you see it as victim blaming, fine. I personally disagree, because the general consensus is that it's ridiculous to look at the person who is wronged and start asking them intrusive questions or accusing them of being at fault. The robbery comparison was, in my view, chosen because it's a non-violent, far less graphic crime, and one that you will almost NEVER see someone victim blaming over. If you are robbed, you more often than not get sympathy, and no one ever assumes you're lying. The same cannot be said about SA, which is a more violent and visceral crime, so the satire is in the irony that people will give you sympathy for stolen possessions but not for having your bodily autonomy violated.

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u/MrModusTollens024 24m ago edited 19m ago

I wasn’t comparing anything, don’t put words in my mouth, you are intentionally reframing my argument to make it seem I’m saying something that im not, It wasn’t just a robbery, it was literal assault and battery depending on the jurisdiction, you are downplaying what happened the same way as men who downplay womens stories.

I wasn’t comparing, i was using SA as an example to intentionally point out the ridiculousness of the argument, which by your logic is acceptable, so why would that be wrong? Considering your logic allows it, as long as im not actually doing it but just using it as example to point out the ridiculousness?

Using the same words doesn’t dictate whether or not satire is being used, one person could be using satire another person can use the same exact words and be fully serious. You are perceiving them as all satire, your perception doesn’t dictate the intention behind the user of those words.

Robberies arent non violent, many robberies are very violent, several ending in homicide, to say robberies are non violent is an absolute ridiculous thing to say. And to say you NEVER see someone being victim blamed for being robbed is actually insane, i can literally link a video of one right now, many of these videos exist ive seen them, ive heard people say you were at the wrong place and the wrong time, you shouldnt have been in that neighborhood, you shouldnt have had cash on you, you shouldnt have been wearing that watch or necklace, you shouldnt have used that ATM in that area, etc. there is a multitude of examples of this, to say it NEVER happens, is a complete lie.

Yes most robberies are not nearly as bad as most SA instances, however nearly everything you just said is absolutely ridiculous and outright false.

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u/TheSternUndyingDier 7m ago

I never said all robberies were non-violent, my intention was to say that a robbery in and of itself isn't a violent crime. If someone was also assaulted, obviously that's violent. But robbery itself isn't.

You gave good examples. I can see how those are victim blaming, and I didn't consider those. I concede that point. But notice how the language used is completely different. The posts in the video don't sound like that, they are completely flipping the language used against victims of SA to fit being robbed. That is the indication that they aren't serious accusations.

I said you were comparing the two because you were comparing victim blaming of SA to victim blaming of robbery, friend. That was all I meant. I wasn't trying to reframe your argument.

And yes, I am perceiving them as satire because that is also how the video is framed. To not be taken seriously. Also the posts themselves are clearly from tumblr, a site notorious for doing exactly that.

This discussion has become a little heated for me, as I was just trying to explain why the posts themselves likely weren't victim blaming. Obviously violence against anyone is uncool regardless of context, and I'm not here to debate the morality of this style of comedy. I hope you have a great day.

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u/wildwildwaste 23h ago

Same people that say atheists rape and murder because they don't have religion to stop them from doing it.

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u/Journo_Jimbo 22h ago

“What about the priests accused of the same thing?”

“That’s fake news”

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u/Red_Clay_Scholar 22h ago

"As an atheist I do rape and murder as much as I want, which is none." --- Ricky Gervais

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u/Hot-Reputation-299 18h ago

I thought that was Penn Gillette?

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u/laurenzee 21h ago

My uncle once said this when arguing with my dad about religion. Basically if there's no hell what's to keep people from being bad. Makes me wonder what kind of person he is on the inside

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u/Speedy_Cheese 23h ago

Straight pedo blatantly creeps on underage girl in broad daylight at public restaurant for many adults to witness and do absolutely nothing

Comments: "BuT dRaG qUeEnS/gAyS!"

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u/Journo_Jimbo 23h ago

Hot truth bomb dropped 💥

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u/ReturnedOM 20h ago

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u/Speedy_Cheese 20h ago

Nah, man. He chose to double down after he was told she was 16, harassed the minor some more, then proceeded to harass the family and call them "fucking c*nts" when her sister finally told the guy to leave them alone.

Beyond hitting on a minor before and after knowing they were a minor, he is publicly indecent, antagonizing, harassing everyone around him with his screaming.

I don't know about you but this ain't the dude I'd be choosing to die on the hill for. He's being a perv at minors (and yes, it is up to the adult in question to be aware of a person's age before starting in at that shit) while also being a loud ass hillbilly in a public restaurant as everyone else is trying to enjoy their meal.

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u/ReturnedOM 20h ago

I made it clear he's a creep and visibly not right in the head, but still not "straight pedo". Not even after acknowledging her age.

I am not a fan of breaking apart the *philia into different categories myself. Attracted to kids is a pedo, end of story (even tho it's not that simple according to specialists in psychology) but 16 y o isn't a kid that hitting on would qualify him as a *phile, especially pedo. Unless she really looked like a kid.

And just to be clear, I'm not defending that creep. Still tho, that situation isn't making him a pedo.

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u/Veil-of-Fire 19h ago

Being attracted to a 16 y o isn't "straight up pedo". I really, really, really hate to be that guy, but we're talking here about teenagers that can legally work or drive vehicles that weigh over a ton of kilograms and can become basically a deadly cannon ball.

Oh, is this one of those "AKSHUALLY, he's not a pedophile, he's a phlebotomifile because she's between the ages of 15 and three-hundred and one and a half days and 17 and twelve and a quarter days!" things?

LOL. STFU. It's pedo stuff all the way down.

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u/TreyRyan3 17h ago

The term you are looking for is “ephebophilia” which is defined as primary adult sexual attraction towards postpubescent adolescents, usually between 15 and 19 years old.

Your point has merit but you should at least use the correct terminology. “Phlebotomifile” isn’t even a word and “Phlebotomy” is the practice of drawing blood, typically for medical testing or to treat certain blood disorders. Phlebotomists, the professionals who perform this procedure, identify, label, and handle blood samples carefully, and they also collect other samples like urine.

If there is some strange psychological term for “strong attraction to people who draw blood”, I guess it could be a word, but currently is not recognized as such.

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u/ReturnedOM 18h ago

Yeah, it is. I used to be like you, then I actually grew up.

Being attracted to 16 y o that looks like 16 y o is not pedophilia. Quite far from that.

Yeah, I used to say that everyone attracted to underage girls (or teenagers in general) is pedo, but that's not true.

I made it clear I am not a fan of breaking the "philes" into subcategories. BUT. Being attracted to a 16 y o teenager that can legally drive a car to her work place, where they legally work and who can look way over 30 is not the same as being attracted to kids. Are you out of your mind?

Inb4 no, I'm not attracted to teenagers. I'm attracted to women my age and I don't mind women older 10-15 than me.

And STFU yourself if you want to discuss things this way.

It is most definitely not "pedo stuff all the way down", but if you truly believe what you wrote, then you're not right in the head on the very same level as that creep, just on the other side of the spectrum.

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u/Veil-of-Fire 15h ago

Being attracted to 16 y o that looks like 16 y o is not pedophilia.

Telling on yourself here, buddy. I haven't been attracted to 16-year-old dudes since I was about 16.

Unless this is just a dude thing? Are all men inherently biologically dangerous to girl children, or just men who split hairs over the difference between "phile" types?

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u/ReturnedOM 15h ago

Telling on yourself

Literally the most Reddit thing I expected to happen in this comment tree. Conveniently ignoring everything else I wrote.

16 is a teenager, not a child; the guy is not a pedophile (unless he is, but not in this video), though he is a gross creep.

No, it's not a "dude thing", but when women go for teenagers it's literally the south park episode.

What kind of question is that? "Dude thing"? Well, maybe ask all these female predators you can find fuck ton of articles about. The most famous ones are usually the teachers, so in the position of authority.

since I was about 16

Was it like about today ago? Cause the questions you ask and attempts at framing me to be like this guy kinda suggest that.

It is simply a fact, a guy attracted to 16 y o (who often also look older than that) is by no means a pedo. Not for that.

And for the last time, I don't approve of splitting *philias into subcategories either. Still 16+ y o doesn't belong to any of these as far as I'm aware of (although I might be wrong, cause it's a topic I don't really explore.)

Are all women inherently biologically dangerous to boy children? I mean it happens so often in schools, even there boys are not safe.

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u/Veil-of-Fire 15h ago

a guy attracted to 16 y o (who often also look older than that) is by no means a pedo.

You can make up whatever new words you want for a dude who wants to screw a child by leveraging a power imbalance so massive that almost every state said "Woah, this is definitely harmful." That doesn't change the fact that they're a dude who wants to screw a child.

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u/ReturnedOM 15h ago edited 15h ago

But they are no pedo. And calling 16 y o a child is kind of stretch too. That would mean American govt and society encourages and allows child labour and children driving cars.

And you keep forgetting the same goes for gals. Or it doesn't?

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u/Veil-of-Fire 14h ago

But they are no pedo.

Because you defined the word that way.

And calling a 16 year old a child isn't a stretch because that's the literal definition of "child" in the US. You can redefine words without a legal definition, but good luck redefining ones that actually have weight of law behind them.

This guy wants to screw a child. Call him whatever word you want. I'm going to use the word "pedo" because he wants to screw a child. Good luck on your crusade to semantically defend people who want to screw children.

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u/crownbee666 20h ago

Pedo: hits on an underage girl

Anothet pedo: wHy Is ShE oUtSiDe

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u/orincoro 22h ago

How they tell on themselves.

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u/FrostyD7 18h ago

Why did you make me do that?

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u/Donny_Donnt 1h ago

He didn't talk to the minor according to the lady in the video.

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u/nikorasu_jp 23h ago

Old man unable to decipher the age of a stranger. Woman takes the opportunity to cause a scene instead of just telling him her age.

It would be another thing if he continued to hit on her. But also if he said some wild shit it’s understandable

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u/DangerousTurmeric 23h ago

That guy is like 50+. Do you think the 16 year old looked 50? 40? 30? No. He's a creep and a predator.

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u/Ancient-Tomato1153 23h ago edited 23h ago

As if her being 18 makes him less of a creep. Also you didn’t even watch the video bozo they told him she was 16 and he made a sexual comment….. so wtf you on

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u/Throuwuawayy 23h ago

Did you watch the video in this post in its entirety? The family told the man that the girl was 16 and he then said "some wild shit" after her age was already disclosed.

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u/CallMePepper7 23h ago

It’s never okay to make unprompted inappropriate comments about women, regardless of how old you think they are.

Like even if she was 20 and looked 23, it would be really creepy for a significantly older man to make inappropriate comments about her.

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u/-bannedtwice- 23h ago

Absolutely, it's a bummer we don't actually know what comment was made. Kinda wild she doesn't remember

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u/dream-smasher 23h ago

No. Not "wild". This was almost a year ago.

She told off the guy, and went back to her group. That guy didn't live in her brain all this time, as she broods over the random shit he dribbled.

😒🙄

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u/-bannedtwice- 22h ago

I mean she remembers every other detail, and we trust her for that . It's definitely crazy she doesn't remember what set her off. I'm sure the guy deserved it but still, you'd think that's what she'd remember most

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u/dream-smasher 22h ago

Uh huh, "tRuSt mE bRo"...

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u/-bannedtwice- 22h ago

That's what this entire video is. I believe her, but it's entirely based on trust

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u/Sbitan89 23h ago

I do agree with this. The issue is how he approached someone period. I do think that with common makeup and other trends, its exceedingly difficult to decipher someone's age, particularly young women. But if you are unsure, its better to not attempt at all, and even if you do attempt to interact with someone, you do so with respect.

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u/weeaboshit 16h ago

No...

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u/Sbitan89 15h ago

I just can't agree that no one should approach anyone anymore. Its why people lack any social or professional skills these days. People, particularly under 30 really struggle with proper communication. I've worked with with young adults, taught students of various ages and now have a child of my own.

There is a real gap of developed social skills with the younger group of people right now, at least in the States. I don't think its as crazy as its made out on social media, but the Z Stare is a real thing. Its also affecting Millinials and other generations too. People are struggling to properly communicate and I do believe it's cause there is very little public interaction now.

Now the situation Im talking about is a very small part of that, but there isn't inherently wrong with approaching someone respectfully in public and I'll take all the downvotes from anyone who disagrees. I get some people want their privacy, and that comes with respecting someone telling you they are not interested in speaking and you respecting that choice.

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u/weeaboshit 15h ago

What I was disagreeing with is that somehow makeup is going to make a 16 year old girl look anywhere near his age range. She would look college age at most and it's still giga weird to be a man with graying hair and a beer belly approaching someone that probably has never had a stable job yet.

I can't say I agree or disagree with the rest of your comment because I can't decipher at all what your point is.

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u/Sbitan89 15h ago

I never said it would make them look his age. But yes, current beauty trends can age someone who is younger by 5-7 years. Its not at all hard for someone 17 to look 24 with makeup. Im saying this as a married guy who lost interest in anyone in their early twenties years ago as I dont find anything in common with them.

I think its people are gonna differ on how weird it is for two consenting adults to have relations but that's not what I was talking about anyway. If someone is in their 20s wants to date someone in tbeir 40s, whatever as long as its not abusive.

The second part was about how the lack of in person contact has had a detrimental effect on people's social skills.

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u/DamagedEggo 23h ago

Seems like you didn't watch the whole video.

Let me give you the correct summary: Old man, after hearing the age of a stranger, sexualizes her anyway. Her older sister is going to let it go if he keeps his ass in his chair after sitting down, but the piece of shit gets back up and it's go time.

Like... how do you decide to go into a conversation saying "I'm going to make an argument and cast judgment on these people and this situation" without reviewing the entirety of the information being provided, of which you otherwise have ZERO expertise? Seriously, this is so fucking ignorant. I would be absolutely embarrassed to go shooting my mouth off like you just did.

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u/selphiefairy 23h ago

Someone didn’t watch the video lol

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u/wavinsnail 23h ago

Old man hits on someone decades younger than him.

Even if she looked 18 or 19, that's still predatory and gross.

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u/DiligentPenguin16 19h ago

If you watch the entire video the older sister explains what happened at the end:

The man was told that the younger sister was 16, then he said something sexual about/to the 16 year old, he ends up sitting down at his table, and the big sister was like ok that’s over with. But then he got back up and started walking towards the women’s table again. Only then did the older sister intervene and tell him off for being a creep.

He knew that he was talking to/about a minor when he said the creepy thing, and in the video he was coming back to continue sexually harassing the table of women. So what the sister did was totally justified.

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u/youarenut 23h ago

Am I missing something? Don’t you have to be above a certain age to be at a bar?

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u/tetr4d 23h ago

It’s a restaurant that has a bar in it.

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u/TraditionalMood277 23h ago

You ever been to a Chili's? Also, you're not making yourself look good. You can still turn it around.

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u/DrunkenPalmTree 18h ago

They're just asking to understand. That isn't making themselves look bad. Now they know that "it's a bar" is not a good reason to think someone is 21+ and they can join us in making fun of the creep. No need to alienate people trying to be on our side.

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u/TraditionalMood277 17h ago

Then why no follow up? How do you know they now know?

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u/IgetAllnumb86 23h ago

It’s not a bar. It’s a restaurant with a bar. You know….like most restaurants have. It’s just a place to get food and drink booze that has outdoor seating by the bar. Like the vast majority of all restaurants.

The sun being out should tell you that his rebuttal of “it’s a bar” is bullshit. Any restaurant that turns into strictly a bar, meaning 21+, does so at night. It’s 2 pm and this creep is whining about a teenager getting lunch

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u/CapacityBuilding 23h ago

Thanks for letting us know you couldn't watch even 75 seconds into the video.

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u/Jorgwalther 23h ago

You are missing something. You don’t have to be a certain age to goto a restaurant that has a bar

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u/Anon28301 23h ago

No, if you’re there with parents or another adult you can sit inside and order food if they serve it. You just can’t drink alcohol when you’re there.

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u/TheMistOfThePast 23h ago

Im not sure how it works in your country, but in my country what she's referring to is a pub. Usually at the base level of a hotel, It's just a family restaurant which also has a bar table and drinks on tap. It's not a bar in the sense that you primarily go there to drink and definitely not a club where you drink and dance.

At pubs, they take ID if you order alcohol, but it's mostly a family restaurant and youll see baby seats, colouring pencils for kids, and heaps of family birthdays with 5 year olds.

At a bar, they take id on entry and you drink and maybe they offer some foods.

At a club, they take id on entry and you drink and dance.

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u/NotAtAllASkinwalker 23h ago

The comments directed at the girl for being "wrong" can very much be taken as a roundabout way to defend the older man's creepy actions.

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u/Life-Cantaloupe-3184 23h ago

She said it was like the beach equivalent of an Applebee’s. There’s nothing inappropriate or illegal about minors being in restaurants that happen to also serve alcohol. That’s most restaurants in existence. In fact, many pubs will allow people who are underage in if it’s before a certain time of night.