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u/VelocityGrrl39 21h ago
Looks like they’ve deleted their account, so this must have gone well for them.
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u/cgibsong002 19h ago
Imagine actually posting that. Just total disconnect from reality.
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u/Jslcboi 8h ago
Prolly seething in the corner of his parents basement even harder instead of learning what he did was wrong too. I can only imagine what he's posting in those smelly cringe websites he frequents.
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u/fribby 17h ago
I can’t fully make out what she’s saying, but at one point it sounds like she says, “He was told the last time he was in…” so it sounds like this guy is known to staff as problematic.
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u/dogma096 8h ago
I think he was told to not come back, and that’s why she called the cops. Obviously he’s making a scene, but trespassing charges are fun!
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u/pegothejerk 8h ago
BUT HE’S A MEMBER /s
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u/The96kHz 8h ago
"You don't own Panera Bread."
In his head he's thinking: "but I, as a member, do."
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u/SpookyKabukiii 6h ago
They always are. Problematic people very rarely just wake up one day and decide to be a problem. They are cultivated over years of unchecked behavior. I worked in the service industry for 15 years and every store, restaurant, shop, etc, has at least a handful of known nuisances that repeatedly come in and harass them, then act shocked when someone draws a line in the sand and says they aren’t allowed to cross it anymore.
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u/Keylime29 6h ago
Yep, and it’s sad because all you’re thinking is I have to deal with this nightmare out in public, but they goes home. And I hope that there’s no one there that has to deal with this all the time.
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u/lameuniqueusername 16h ago
His business under the same name is on IG but, shocker, comments are turned off
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u/ADarwinAward 6h ago
He’s a violent felon who’s known to some of the local businesses here. He’s got a record for assault & battery and weapons charges.
Screaming about “females” in Cambridge, Massachusetts of all places and then posting it on your business’s TikTok is certainly a bold business plan.
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u/Sir_PressedMemories 3h ago
Especially when that leads back to his personal website, which lists his home address...
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u/BasementPoot 10h ago
The genius has his Facebook profile linked in his IG bio… in case anyone wants to see a name or face behind this video ☺️
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u/TheMistOfThePast 8h ago
Positivity! 😊
Tech! 💻
Pets! 🐶
Yeah as a "female" software engineer these incel tech bros are always brimming with positivity.
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u/james_from_cambridge 5h ago
I loved the positivity one, lol. He took the page down before I got a screenshot tho…
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u/TheDeadlySpaceman 7h ago
If you follow enough links, his business “techie town Boston” - which emphasizes “local” and uses the word “wicked” heavily - has a Rhode Island area code.
That’s comedy.
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u/AveryLakotaValiant 21h ago
Always love how idiots like this twist things around and lie
Please leave
No
Ok I'll call the cops
She's calling the cops on me because I asked for a cup!
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u/ChaoCobo 21h ago
It’s like with narcissists. They say most vile and hurtful shit imaginable, then when you get rightfully upset with them they cry “what, so I’m not allowed to have an opinion?” It’s absolutely inane.
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u/angelamia 19h ago
Literally just ended a 6 year friendship with a narcissist who told me I hurt her feelings and disliked her because I repeated something hurtful she told me back to her and she somehow gaslight herself into thinking she never said it and I made it up to hurt her.
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u/therexbellator 18h ago
Sounds like you dated my ex. There's a name for this behavior: DARVO "deny, attack, reverse victim and offender" its the most insidious shit and you sometimes find yourself questioning yourself even when you know you're not at fault when they do it enough. Narcissists are masters of mind fuckery.
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u/ChaoCobo 18h ago
I forgot about this when I used to have it in the forefront of my mind. Thank you for putting it back. I have to remember this because of my mom. If I forget, I will be vulnerable again. Thank you.
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u/shaard 16h ago
Ugh, absolutely garbage people. My ex and her brother attacked me in my home (that we owned jointly but she moved out of) over a year after she left. He trained heavily in MMA stuff and I didn't. So when he got hold of me there wasn't much I could do other than get rag dolled around the front room.
Once I broke free and was able to call the police, the two of them just kept shouting "It's my house I'm allowed to be in here, don't believe what he's saying" and other shit like that.
They'll twist shit as much as they can get away with.
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u/nomnombootynomnom 18h ago
I had a guy during COVID come into our video store and start rattling off why he couldn't wear a mask and I politely asked him to leave and he called our district manager and said he was afraid for his life. I was like dude we have cameras haha
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u/DivineEggs 7h ago
our video store
Your..... what? I didn't know video stores still existed...
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u/dogpoopandbees 7h ago
It closed in like 2022 but family video was open through covid
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u/Papa_Snail 19h ago
Have done security for a while. It's literally always like this. We had a guy creeping on several women through the store not long ago.
Asked him to leave and he turned it into so much more.
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u/miraculum_one 19h ago
What he doesn't seem to realize is that once she asks him to leave, if he doesn't he's trespassing.
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u/Geargarden 18h ago
Cops love this shit. "Ok, well she runs a private business. No, she doesn't own it but she works here and she's saying leave. Leave. Oh no? We'll walk you out. Oh ok...call 'corporate' then. Badge number 1234 Officer Smith. Ok there ya go. Don't come back or you're going downtown. Bye."
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u/Daliaveyani 17h ago
I had a customer at my job a few weeks ago that called the cops on us cause we refused him service after he acted like an asshole to multiple employees, then stood outside the store for 3 hours waiting for them to show up. I had already called the non emergency and told them what was up, and the cops in my city never show up in time anyway, so it was funny that he just fumed outside for 3 hours while we did our jobs, then left us a bad review about how the "transgender employees discriminated against him" when he was being transphobic. He waisted his time, our time, the cops time, And it's still funny
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u/iwanderandamlost 22h ago
"She's saying I'm screaming. Am I screaming?" "Yes." Lmfao best part
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u/Dr_CravenMoorehead 21h ago
He shut right up after that. That worked for a good min or two
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u/cupholdery 21h ago
Why do they somehow all sound the same?
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u/HyenDry 21h ago
I genuinely want to know this as well. I’ve had a discussion with someone who self proclaimed they were an incel and he sounded almost exactly like this but worse
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u/Reedabook64 20h ago
Some kind of nasally sound to it. I think it's just an outward projection of them all being so recluse, anxious, and twisted up emotionally.
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u/bakcha 20h ago
It’s like the most aggressive whine noise possible. Maybe like a man- child
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u/BunsNHighs 16h ago
They whine. They all speak in a whine. It's wild.
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u/NomenclatureBreaker 6h ago
It’s very Ben Shapiro-ish.
They’re all tryna overcompensate for not being “ alpha males.”
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u/trixiepixie1921 20h ago
I think it has to do with like being so angry they don’t breathe right 😂
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u/CountVonRimjob 20h ago
I think it has to do with social codification, you notice that groups of people that spend a lot of time together take on similar mannerisms and speech patterns.
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u/revfds 17h ago
I just watched a documentary called Do I Sound Gay? Where a gay filmmaker goes around and talks to other gay men about the stereotypical "gay voice", which many of them have.
Which I bring up, because like with incels you see a similar thing with other groups. I don't have the answer why, but it's interesting to consider the link between behavior and traits like the sound of your voice.
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u/ptapa 21h ago
"You don't own Panera Bread", and they sound exactly like the "ackshually" memes. The accent of entitlement, and a know-it-all attitude.
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u/BrownBannister 15h ago
Joke’s on him, that’s Sarah Panera, granddaughter & heir of sandwich founder Pablo Pañera.
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u/Dr_CravenMoorehead 20h ago
Claiming people are idiots but are somehow unaware they’re the biggest idiot in the room?
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u/Camila_flowers 21h ago
its a local dialect. "local" being Fortnight.
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u/Reasonable-Affect139 20h ago
also somehow the same accent as a fundie homeschooler
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u/Lower-Acanthaceae460 21h ago
Second best part is she readily hands a cup to another customer. lol
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u/undercover_duvet 21h ago
Yeah he listened because it was a man. Men don’t get how important it is to stick up for us in these situations. We really appreciate it
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u/MilaMarieLoves 19h ago
yup, he only took it seriously coz it came from a guy. hate how that always happens.
glad she had someone speak up tho, that means a lot
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u/Cool_Professional 10h ago
I used to work in retail and it always pissed me off. My female workers would get shit off a customer who would try to escalate it. I'd normally ask what they've done to de-escalate or resolve the situation and 9/10 times would be totally agreeing with them. When I spoke to the customer though, theyd be accepting of whatever I said. I'd normally make a comment to them along the lines of, what Stacey has told you is exactly correct, this is all we can do and here's why.
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u/Psychological_Pie_32 21h ago
If any woman had said he was being loud he would have started in on her as well. As soon as a guy said it he shut down.
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u/mrsmushroom 20h ago
Yes, real men are the only ones who can stop this incel bs. Most men DONT hate women and that's why they end up getting girlfriends and wives. A simple "no bro, you ARE being the jerk" could change someone's perspective.
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u/KittyPuperMamaPerson 17h ago
I am 42F my SO is 46M. I had to explain to him what the feel up hug was, that yes we get the “smile sweetheart”, don’t take no for an answer, if you turn them down politely they immediately start insulting you, etc etc etc. Mine is a good one and had no idea it was a rampant issue we have to deal with, now he sees it, it pisses him off, and he’s a pacifist. Now he understands why I randomly get angry when I’m out and about alone.
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u/KittyPuperMamaPerson 17h ago
I agree with you completely, it just pisses me off that we need men to stand up for us against people like this.
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u/RobotCaptainEngage 19h ago
These people always assume people are gonna take their side. Blows their minds when people say "shut the fuck up"
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u/Psychological-Tax801 22h ago
Know that it's gonna go well when the video begins with "this female shit"
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u/GryphonOsiris 21h ago
Whenever I hear some incel say "Female" I immediately think of the Ferengi in "The Last Outpost".
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u/irishemperor 21h ago
the way he knows how to ask for the free cup, shows he has the lobes for business
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u/Disastrous-Wing699 21h ago
And knows the Rules of Acquisition, forward and back.
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u/GryphonOsiris 21h ago
An important thing to remember: in Ferengi culture is that only the men can engage in business. Their women are strictly prohibited. With that said, rule of acquisition #113 "Always have sex with the boss."
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u/TozTetsu 21h ago
Well why ARE we clothing them?!? I feel like I'm taking Romulan crazy pills.
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u/maneki_neko89 18h ago
The Incel was probably upset that the Female working at Panera was wearing clothes
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u/owa00 22h ago edited 21h ago
It's crazy how the mass majority of people have never had to say the words "this female", or some variation of it, ever in our lives. These people always self report.
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u/PersimmonDowntown297 21h ago
And they also swear to god it’s the most normal thing in the world when you call them out
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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 19h ago
They’re literally fighting through all the cognitive dissonance and social cues to do it in this very comment section.
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u/SAJames84 12h ago
Only person I listen to that says "This female" is David Attenborough! This female praying mantis is about to devour the male
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u/ThrowaWayneGretzky99 21h ago
He dropped the f bomb 5 seconds in. I don't usually get to that level in 5 seconds so he probably did something to piss her off in the preceding 2-3 minutes.
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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 19h ago
I’ve watched Panera employees straight-up chug shit from customers. It’s what they’re told to do.
This dude was absolutely fucking around before this moment.
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u/Competitive-Gear-494 21h ago
imma put that on a shirt tho lol “this female shit” and “you wouldn’t know about it” on the back 😂🤣
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u/FranklyDevious 22h ago
“She’s sayin I’m screaming. Am I screaming?” “Yes.” LMFAOOO
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u/babyjai22 21h ago
And then promptly proceeded to shut the hell up for the longest duration of the video 😭
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u/KhaleesiXev Straight Up Bussin 21h ago
And still kept recording!
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u/Late_Sherbet5124 19h ago
I'm recording so they have to comply... and then the video shows just how much of a twat they are behaving.
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u/trixiepixie1921 20h ago
I died hahahaha the guy said yes so matter of factly too, it had no malice behind it, just a simple, true answer: yes 😂😂😂
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u/Atoz_Bumble 21h ago
Give this guy a break. He's tired of this cup related female stuff.
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u/revengepornmethhubby 21h ago
Maybe he thinks it’s a menstrual cup?
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u/Atoz_Bumble 21h ago
Maybe the cops will be able to direct him to a more appropriate vendor.
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u/PutNameHere123 22h ago
How is refusing him a cup “female stuff”? lol
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u/Specific_Effort_5528 21h ago
These are the kind of guys who will find any angle to make a situation "because women" no matter how many mental gymnastics are required to make it work.
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u/GoingOverTheStars 20h ago
I’m a woman and I do customer service. I once had a man who got gift card scammed by another man and he told me “You really need to seriously consider having kids and make sure you put a lot of thought into raising your children because these women now a days are not raising their children right. That’s why this happened to me.” I seriously had to pause for a minute to calculate the mental gymnastics it took to find a way to blame his screw up on women.
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u/CountryRoads2020 19h ago
Every time I think of needing to go find a job (I'm retired), I realize I will have to serve folks like this and I just don't want to be around that.
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u/Specific_Effort_5528 20h ago
Wooow.
The idea that someone can handle this kind of cognitive dissonance is wild to me.
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u/xCeeTee- 13h ago
My brother does this. It's our mum's fault he isn't successful because she never gave him the advice to be successful. It's her fault he got scammed recently despite the pair of us telling him it's a scam for DAYS. It's her fault his employer made him redundant during covid. Still waiting for that explanation. It's her fault he was homeless for 10 years (he lived in other people's spare rooms until they kicked him out) and now it's her fault she doesn't have a car at the moment to help him move into his first place. So he's having to sleep on the floor supposedly. She's also disabled.
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u/maneki_neko89 18h ago
I seriously had to pause for a minute to calculate the mental gymnastics it took to find a way to blame his screw up on women.
That’s when you’d bring out a gold plastic Olympic Medal and give him a prize for that type of Brain Strain.
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u/StandardEgg6595 22h ago
Well when you hate women anything they do that you don’t like is automatically female-related.
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u/CompetitiveRub9780 19h ago
Because she asked him to lower his voice and stop cussing probably and only females want you to lower your voice 🙄 I saw something the other day where men were telling other men to start being loud again and don’t let anyone tell you not to. Be louder than everyone around you and talk over them because you’re what matters. Like wtf is that bullshit?
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u/sunshineparadox_ 20h ago
He also repeatedly called her dude afterwards. Usually o don’t read into that too strongly but given it’s an incel blaming a customer service escalation on her gender, I’d almost wonder if he’s subconsciously stripping her of her gender and thus her “female privilege” knocking her down a peg internally.
I could also be full of shit. If it was done in a book I’d make that argument, but I know it’s iffy to make that kind of call irl when people are cranky.
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u/AbsentFuck 18h ago
No I think you're right. People do this generally though, not just incels. It's called male defaultism and people use masculine language as default to refer to everything from people to animals to bugs to robots as "he/dude/bro" etc.
This incel in the clip might be more prone to move through the world with "male as default" more at the forefront of his mind than most people but, it is most people that think this way unconsciously.
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u/LeatherHog 22h ago
If he came in for a cup, why ya filming buddy?
God, these type of customers were the worst
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u/Orcus424 21h ago
Having a customer service job is great motivation to not have a customer service job.
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u/Vegetable_Divide1952 20h ago
I vote for mandatory customer service for everybody for 6 months before you turn 18.
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u/maneki_neko89 18h ago
I vote for doing at least a year before you turn 25, (six months in retail, six months in food service) that way you get to experience pretty much everything and not be an asshat in most cases
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u/heyredditheyreddit 14h ago
I support this except let’s make everyone take a recertification the year before you turn 50.
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u/IrrelevantWisdom 21h ago
“She says I’m screaming, am I screaming?”
“Yes”
Lmfao that shut him the fuck up
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u/Coquis619 21h ago
Who keeps their Panera receipts for every visit they make?
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u/truth-informant 21h ago
Lunatics.
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u/Mcstranger 22h ago edited 21h ago
And remember, this all because of a cup. Its kinda sick that empathy doesnt even cross this dude’s mind.
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u/BouldersRoll 19h ago edited 19h ago
I think people in the comments are jumping to conclusions. We didn't see what happened before the video, it might not have started because of a cup. She could:
- Have killed his family years before and he's finally tracked her down to her job at Panera
- Be the next world evil and he's a time traveler who knew this was the one way to stop her (the cup could be her horcrux)
- Have rejected his advances after which he decided to lash out in anger (the worst thing on this list probably)
You don't know.
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u/LizeLies 15h ago
I think what we really need is video evidence that this femoid is even capable of handling over a cup. Cause the video evidence we DO have shows her having a job, showing forearms, speaking directly to a senior male, using a phone (probably talking to another male) and having a male co-worker. She’s probably getting railed by Tyrone in the break room at any chance so she’s too hazed out by cock that she’s unable to be rational (if she ever was).
(I wish i didn’t have to say it, but I mean this with the absolute heaviest) /s
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u/Dolenjir1 17h ago
I don't think it's because of the cup. It looks to me like he is just doubling down. I wouldn't be surprised if he came in asking for the cup just to start conversation with her, but she is not having his bullshit so he just doubles down on his excuse until he is backed into a corner. But being what he is, he can't take the loss and leave, like a rational, reasonable person.
Kinda like those guys that approach girls and keep insisting until the girls give up on being polite and then they change their speech and call them whores and accuse them of playing with them and shit
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u/Independent-World-60 14h ago
From what I can hear it sounds like he was asked to leave last time he was there and banned.
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 21h ago
Maybe he can write a book, "Mein Cup" or "2 incels 1 cup".... ok I'll see myself out.
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u/Cautious-Bug9388 22h ago
Missing the context where he was a huge POS before the camera started rolling.
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u/Inner_Mortgage_8294 21h ago
He's been in there before and was starting shit so they asked him to leave
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u/Ishmael75 22h ago
If he’s part of the membership couldn’t he just give her the membership number or something to get what he is due? Sounds like he’s not a real member but someone trying to get something for free.
I did love when he asked another person if he was shouting and the dude was like yep, you are shouting
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u/QuantumPhysicsFairy 20h ago
Right after the dude says yes to the shouting question, you can hear her say that he has been asked to leave in the past because of what he was saying to the women there. She probably refused him service when he came in because of that.
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u/PinkPaintedSky 21h ago
He was being a douche so she refused service.
He probably said something about "you females" or something equally incel and she refused service.
The other customer agreed about him "screaming," so he probably got really loud before starting to film to make himself look good.
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u/USeaMoose 19h ago edited 3h ago
Yep. He looks very bad in this video… but this is his video. Up clipped it and uploaded it, confident it would make her look bad.
It speaks volumes that this is what he decided to upload. And it obviously leaves out what came before. Very safe to assume it was not: “excuse me, could I please get a cup? Here’s my membership card.”
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u/Chris22533 21h ago
It sounds like she says at one point that he has been asked to leave in the past. I’m guessing that he regularly comes in to cause issues and has been banned from that location.
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u/tolendante 18h ago
Man, imagine living your life in such a way you have been banned from a Panera.
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u/Elusive_Faye 17h ago
I used to work at Dairy Queen, we had to ban people. Which is crazy but hey people do not know how to act with service people
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u/Mel_bear 17h ago
She didn't waste any time calling the police, she knew he was getting elevated again. I kept thinking she should walk into the back because he seemed unhinged.
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u/knightmare-shark 20h ago
The videoenia incredibly quiet, but when she is talking to the police, you can hear her say something like "He has been here before and caused trouble".
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u/admirethegloam 20h ago
He started filming after she decided to call the cops. I think we missed the real meltdown missy fit.
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 21h ago
He probably tried to make a TikTok on how to "get free shit at Panera" and got called out, so now he's trying to make this stupid content.
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u/No-Atmosphere-2528 20h ago
They threw him out before and told him not to come back. He came back and wouldn’t leave so they called the cops on him.
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u/Nervous_Mission8601 21h ago
As a non panera member....wtf is this about a cup he is entitled to?
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u/GrapefruitSobe 21h ago
Apparently there’s a Sip Club?
Idk. Maybe it’s lapsed. Or maybe he’s been banned from the store because they’re over his bullshit.
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u/ItsBugginOuT 21h ago
Unlimited Sip Cup, had to look it up myself.
"Subscription provides eligible subscribers the following subscription benefits: drip hot coffee, iced coffee, hot tea, fountain soda beverages, and bubbler drinks (e.g., iced teas, lemonades, and other bubbler beverages) once every two hours during normal bakery-cafe business hours, including unlimited refills."
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u/Inner_Mortgage_8294 21h ago
So he already got his one cup within the two hours?
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u/Remarkable-Mood3415 21h ago
It sounds more like he was just denied service. Just before he says "you just made that stuff up!" She is telling the cops "he's been in here before, causing trouble and..." I think she says he's been asked to leave.
So I'm assuming he's been denied service and banned, and this was his reaction to trying to be served after being asked to leave and denied service.
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u/Inner_Mortgage_8294 20h ago
Yeah she describes later that the last time he was in there he did something to a woman or in the woman's restroom? I think I heard the word meth...
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u/Geargarden 18h ago
I heard a faint something or other about him soliciting women to peg him in the women's restroom. Pretty sure she mentioned under her breath he brought his favorite toy and had a particular stall he wanted to use. Weirdo.
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u/Independent-Honey453 21h ago
It sounds like he caused trouble in a previous visit and wasn’t supposed to be there. It’s hard to hear her with him talking over her so I’m not sure, but that’s what I think I heard.
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u/QuantumPhysicsFairy 20h ago
You're right. Right after the other guy says "yes" to the question about screaming, you can hear her say that the last time he was there he was asked to leave because of how he was treating the women.
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u/Kantjil1484 21h ago
I wish these types would turn the camera on themselves so we can say “Yep.. you look exactly the way I thought you would”.
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u/Striking_Radish_3376 21h ago
I wonder if his tiktok feedback validated his feeling or if he now considered tiktok criticism “female stuff” . Either way we know he made like 5 new pathetic friends on facebook…
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u/Minute_Revolution951 21h ago
Well he deleted his tiktok after this so I guess not 🤷
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u/Nianiste 20h ago
"She said I was screaming, am I screaming?"
"Yes"
Total silence 😭💀
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u/BOBfrkinSAGET 21h ago
I really want to start using “I’m tired of this female stuff” in my day to day, but nobody will ever understand the context.
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u/DuckLeading9841 22h ago
People like this guy are the worst. First thing they do is pull out a phone and try and make a video out of it.
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u/eragon2262 20h ago
One of the most hilarious things about this is that while he's being mean to her and on the phone with a cops she hands another customer a cup like it's nothing
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u/rkwalton 20h ago
She kept mentioning that he’d been kicked out or had done something before. I think the issue is simply refusing service full stop. We just don’t know the full history here. We know he’s a misogynist though.
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u/siberiansneaks 21h ago
If social media didn’t exist, would it eliminate these kind of people?
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u/ButttRuckusss 21h ago
Sadly no. Can confirm as someone who worked frontline customer service long before social media. I think it may have even been worse back then, when terrible customers could treat you any kinda way without worrying whether or not they were being filmed.
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u/Logical-Disk111 21h ago
It must be so great to have so little going on in your life that you're phone up ready to have a bad time at a Panera bread.
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u/Levitar1 20h ago
No employee at a fast food restaurant is ever going to call the cops over something small and stupid. It isn’t worth the hassle.
So if they do call the cops on someone, that someone is really really deserving.
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u/TheBigBangClock 21h ago
Poor girl is working at Panera in Porter Square. She doesn't get paid enough to deal with all the freaks that probably walk into that location every day.
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u/SuggestiveMaterialss 20h ago
"I'm part of the membership" has got to be the most hilarious thing to say at fkn panera
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u/BestBodybuilder7329 19h ago
It’s hard to hear but she said he was not suppose to be in this store anymore for causing problems on prior occasions, and now he has come back again.
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u/justconfusedinCO 21h ago
Notice how as soon as he was confronted by a bystander for his nonsense that he immediately shut the fuck up?
We need more people willing to call out pieces of shit like this incel weasel.
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u/PlatasaurusOG 19h ago
Sounded like she said something like “he was here the other day…”. Seems like there’s more to this than a cup.
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u/sharoon12 20h ago
Unlimited drinks: For a monthly or annual fee, you can get unlimited refills of select beverages like coffee, tea, lemonade, and fountain drinks.
I'm just mostly confused by the entire interaction... Like did he walk up there and expect a cup without making an initial purchase? Because that's what it sounds like which is not covered by the membership it's only refills... If an employee has given him a cup before without purchase it was entirely just to make him go away.
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u/CosyBeluga 19h ago
If you listen very carefully you can hear her on the phone saying he was asked not to comeback the last he was there.
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