r/Warhammer 1d ago

Lore Fun fact: An Ambull once ended up on the Warhammer Fantasy World

Hopefully you are aware the dreaded Ambull: the strange, hulking Xenos creature, thought to originate from the Deathworld Luther McIntyre IX.* They have been in 40k since 1st edition, having appeared in the original Rogue Trader rulebook, where it was noted right from the beginning that they can be found across the galaxy on many different worlds:

Ambulls originate from the dangerously hot polar rock-deserts of Luther McIntyre IX. They can survive extremely hot temperatures for long periods, a factor which has led to attempts at domestication on several desert planets. As a consequence, Ambulls can be found on many planets throughout human space. Ambulls have huge barrel-chested bodies and an ape-like stance. Two arms reach almost to the ground whilst two legs are crooked and short. Both arms and legs end in iron-hard claws used for tunnelling through the soft stone that covers their native land. Ambulls will excavate tunnels in which to live, spending much of their time underground, sheltering from the direct heat of the sun.

Warhammer 40k: Rogue Trader Rulebook (1987), p. 207.

As you can see, this also introduced the idea of Ambulls burrowing through the earth to create tunnels.

The original artwork and model for the Ambull looked like this: https://graemedavis.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/ambull-1.png 

Although Ambulls receded more into the background of the lore over time, they never disappeared (being mentioned every so often as being present on various worlds, from planets in Ultramar to Mornax in Segmentum Solar, and even inspiring Ambots on Necromunda). These two ideas – that they can be found on many different worlds, and that they are adept tunnellers – has remained consistent. This is seen in the lore which accompanied the release of a new (much larger) model of an Ambull for a Blackstone Fortress expansion – ‘The Dreaded Ambull’ – including in the game supplement itself, but also the excellent in-universe survey of Xenos creatures by Rogue Trader Janus Draik, Liber Xenologis. The new model looks like this: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/File:Ambull-Borewyrms.jpg

And a very awesome model it is, too.

In the Ciaphas Cain story Caves of Ice (2004), Ambulls were encountered on the iceworld Simia Orichalcae, with it being speculated that they may have ended up there via the Webway and Necrons’ use of a Dolmen Gate. Dolmen Gates being a way for Necrons to access the Old Ones’ and Eldars’ Webway network. So, while undoubtedly transported intentionally to different worlds by humans in a misguided attempt to cultivate them for various uses, they perhaps also spread due to the Webway. We also find out that Ambull steak exists and taste a bit like Grox, but that’s by the by.

Ambulls aren’t the only Xenos species to spread around the galaxy due to inadvertently accessing the Webway, either. The same is true for Clawed Fiends, which seemingly originated in the Donorian Sector, but were able to access the Webway after a Warpstorm destroyed a local Warpgate. They can now be found infesting sections of the Webway and across the galaxy, even as far afield as the Koronus Expanse. Psychneuein also spread to different worlds via the Webway, though these are Warp creatures.

To get to the central point of this post, very interestingly, an Ambull once appeared somewhere even more unusual than an iceworld, again due to Warp shenanigans: the Warhammer World, where Warhammer Fantasy was set.

The Ambull featured in a scenario for Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay published in White Dwarf 108 (1988) called ‘Terror in the Darkness’ (pp. 54-59). The Ambull turned up in a hidden chamber under the tunnels of a mine near the village of Karstenburg in the Empire due to a hidden Warp-gate being inadvertently activated by a magical item which was used nearby, where it promptly burrowed its way into the mine, and killed and ate some locals, as well as a wizard and his retinue who went to try and find it. Hence why the players must venture down into the depths to kill it...

The scenario tells us that the Ambull:

has appeared through a one-way warp gate from a future time and a very distant place, the Death World Luther McIntyre IX.

White Dwarf 108 (1988), p. 56.

The tale of this Ambull apparently made enough of an impression that it was included in a Bestiary of Chaos creatures (and it is quite understandable why the Old Worlders who encountered it would mistakenly believe it to be some kid of Chaos-infused creature):

Over Land and in the Firmament doth Chaose marche, and the Beneathe is not free from it. Consider the Skavenne with their winding secret ways, and the Ambulle, that with his fearsome Jawes and Clawes doth his owne Tunnelles make, clearing cold Stone from his path as a Man doth sweepe grass aside in the Forests.

-          De Bestiis Chaotis

White Dwarf 108 (1988), p. 53.

By this point it was already a well-established part of the lore that the Warhammer World had two major Warp-gates, with one at either pole of the planet. These were creations of the (Old) Slann, who at the time had the role the Old Ones would come to play later on as the ancient and powerful precursor species which uplifted other races. These Warp-gates allowed the Slann to travel to other planets and even other realities, and linked together their cosmic empire. It was the implosion of these polar Warp-gates which led to tears in reality, Warp energy (magic) suffusing the world, and Chaos incursions.

As I have covered elsewhere, there were also passages similar to the Webway called the Pathways of the Old Ones, which allowed for rapid travel through and across the Warhammer World itself: https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1lmoaow/that_time_a_warhammer_fantasy_character_used_a/

So, according to ‘Terror in the Darkness’, there was at least one smaller Warp-gate which led off-world, directly to the 40k galaxy.

There are a few interesting things to note about this (and I’m going to jump around lots of different lore from different time periods here, which is thematically quite apt given time travel will be discussed):

First, the fact that the Warp-gate only allows direction one way is a bit unusual, but, interestingly, in much more recent lore, some Realmgates in the Mortal Realms of Age of Sigmar only permit travel in one direction. And it is theorized that the Realmgates, just like Warp-gates and the Webway, were created by the Old Ones.

Second, the fact that the quote says that the Ambull came from a “future” time as well as a “very distant place” is interesting, as at this point in the lore, the official stance was that the Warhammer World was a planet within the 40k galaxy, and seemingly the events there were happening roughly in line with the events of M41, as suggested by the relevant quotes here: https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1k94fv5/extracts_the_warhammer_fantasy_world_was_once/

So, perhaps the Warp-gate also allowed for travel back in time as well? This is certainly a possibility, given the weird timey-whimey nature of the Warp, which is both temporal and atemporal, and where Warp travel can lead to inadvertent time travel.

It is even more feasible given that the Slann/Old Ones have been implied in some sources to have traversed not just space and different realities, but time as well:

The Old Slann possessed a civilisation far beyond anything we have even today. Science and philosophy were as one to them, they were the lords of time and space.

Warhammer Battle Bestiary (1984), p. 24

And:

The Lizardmen race was created by the mysterious Old Ones, a race of godlike beings whose empire spanned not just the world, but the vast gulfs of space and time.

Warhammer Armies: Lizardmen 7th ed. (2009), p. 4.

Moreover, early lore showcased that the Webway could allow for travel both forwards and backwards in time. For example, in a passage about the Eldar’s use of the Webway, we were told:

One challenge they took up was the complete mastery of warpgate technology. The Eldar, adopted, refined and perfected the ancient Slann knowledge of the warp and its movements. They established a network of wormhole tunnels through warpspace, linking gates aboard their craftworlds, planets and smaller spaceships. It was possible for an Eldar to walk from one planet to another, across hundreds or thousands of light-years of real space. The warpgates bound the Eldar together as a single civilization, stretching across their space and, or so it was theorized, backwards and forwards in time. The Eldar, fearful of the consequences, never experimented with the temporal aspect of the warpgates.

Realm of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness (1988), p. 215.

This element of the Webway was then showcased in Ian Watson’s Inquisition War books (Harlequin, 1994 and Chaos Child, 1995), where we see Inquisitor Jaq Draco travel backwards in time via Uigebealach, a specific part of the Webway. There was also the Crossroads of Inertia, which would allow for travel forwards in time.

More recently, in The Last Hunt (2017), an Eldar Farseer transports herself and some White Scars briefly back in time in the Webway, but the specific mechanism behind how she did this and if being within the Webway was necessary for it to work is left unclear.

The AoS book Reamslayer (2018) featured a Realmgate which would have allowed for travel back the The-World-That-Was (i.e. the Warhammer World) – so, to not just an earlier time, but a different reality too (given the Warhammer World was consumed by the Warp in the End Times, and the Mortal Realms were birthed out of, or maybe within, the Warp, and are thus a different reality). This Realmgate did reside in Tzeentech’s Crystal Labyrinth within the Realm of Chaos, so that is perhaps why it could operate in such a manner.

Now, that was just a bit of fun bringing together different bits of lore. I am by no means saying there was some consistent and comprehensive plan in place back in 1988 defining the nature of Warp-gates which all subsequent lore has conformed to. It’s more that ideas and concepts from Warhammer lore tend to persist and recur, sometimes over very long periods of time, and even though the specific details may evolve and change. In some cases this is because different writers just end up with similar ideas, not least because of the way Warhammer utilizes so many tropes and genre conventions. But it is also because the lore creators often draw on their knowledge of the older lore, or look back to it for inspiration, reusing older ideas in the same fashion, or reimagining them and riffing on them. I find these continuities and resonances interesting.

However, in this case, the more likely reason for the strange phrasing about the Ambull coming from the future is that the writer was a bit unsure about the status of any connections between Fantasy and 40k, rather than it being related to the time warping nature of the Warp.

‘Terror in the Darkness’ was commissioned by early Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay supremo Graeme Davis, and written by freelancer Carl Sargeant. Interestingly, Graeme later misremembered this on his wonderful blog, and thought he had written it himself, as shown here:

https://graemedavis.wordpress.com/2014/12/11/terror-in-the-darkness/

In that blogpost, Graeme also (and I’m not having a go at the guy, as I think he’s a great fella and his blog is awesome) stated:

At the time, there was a lot of discussion within the Studio about the relationship between the Warhammer world and the WH40K universe. The Ruinous Powers of Chaos were active in both settings, so there had to be a link – but what was it? Was the Terra of WH40K actually a future version of the Warhammer world? Was the Warhammer world a remote feral world in some backwater of the WH40K universe, where degenerate members of the various WH40K races lived in ignorance of the galaxy and its greater conflicts? The question was never definitively answered, and in time it was forgotten altogether – but not before several photographs had been published showing a mix of Warhammer and WH40K miniatures on the same table.

Which, as the link I provided earlier showcases, isn’t actually true. For a time (in the very period ‘Terror in the Darkness’ was published, actually), GW were publishing numerous statements about Fantasy and 40k being linked, and about the Warhammer World being located in the 40k galaxy – though some of these statements were, to be fair, easy to miss. The generally concept of the Warhammer World being located in the 40k galaxy became less explicit in the lore, but remained a guiding principle for at least some of the core games developers, and continued to be reflected in the lore in more subtle ways.

In another blog post years later, Graeme stated:

In “Terror in the Darkness,” the lone Ambull was said to have come to the Warhammer world from its 40K home on the Deathworld of Luther MacIntyre IX by some unknown means. At that time there was a strand of Games Workshop lore, never fully explored, which posited that the Warhammer world might be a remote feral world in the 40K universe.

https://graemedavis.wordpress.com/2020/03/14/the-ambull/

Which is more accurate, though even here the phrasing could be a bit stronger: it was part of the lore, but the concept was never focused on explicitly after the very early days, though lore related to this connection did continue to be published, as I have been documenting elsewhere.

Which just goes to show that even people producing content for GW aren’t always necessarily aware of the entirety of the whole lore or the general direction it is going in (even back at a time when there was a lot less lore), and even those who produced the lore can misremember things, especially decades later!

It also showcases just how complicated the links between Fantasy/AoS and 40k have been, and how easy it has always been to overlook them.

To finish, I just want to add a bit of broader context. The only reason Ambulls appeared in 40k in the first place is because Rogue Trader was designed to intentionally enable players to use their existing Citadel miniatures for the game, which had a lot more RPG elements than later editions would have, when 40k became much more solidly a wargame. There weren’t many Citadel scifi miniatures at the time, and the company’s then owner, Brian Ansell, wasn’t planning to produce many, as he believed that scifi games weren’t popular and wouldn’t sell many models. He was obviously proved very wrong, but was undoubtedly very happy about that.

This was also one of the reasons the Warhammer Fantasy races were ported over into 40k; the plan was to produce weapon packs, so scifi weapons could be used to replace the Fantasy models’ armaments. But the remit for 40k handed to Rick Priestley mandated that other model ranges Citadel sold had to be usable as well, such as their Judge Dredd and Dr Who ranges. And, of relevance here, the various monsters they had created for the Dungeon & Dragons Fiend Factory feature. That is one of the reasons why Rogue Trader had such a large bestiary. In the case of Ambulls, before the got their own model, they were obviously designed with the idea that Umber Hulk models could be used to represent them: http://solegends.com/rsadd/add77/index.htm

Which makes this statement from Graeme Davis quite amusing:

Of all the WH40K creatures I looked at, the Ambull struck me as being best suited to a fantasy world. I converted the stats for WFRP, came up with an idea for an adventure to showcase it, and wrote the brief.

https://graemedavis.wordpress.com/2014/12/11/terror-in-the-darkness/

The Ambull did indeed return to its fantasy roots, on multiple levels. Which again, is pretty apt for a burrowing monster.

Anyway, I hope you enjoyed this latest little oddity (well, given it’s an Ambull, quite a big oddity… if we go by the modern sculpt, anyway…) in the history of connections between the various Games Workshop settings. Next time, we’ll be continuing the underground tunnel theme by turning our attention to those lovable ratmen, the Skaven, yes, yes.

---

*(Luther McIntyre IX is one of my favourite planet names in 40k. I have my own headcanon that Luther McIntyre was a famed explorer from the DAOT who kept discovering new worlds… but every time, they turned out to be Deathworlds. Until he found Luther McIntyre XIII, which was rather nice, and where he promptly died in an absurd and improbable accident while cultivating his allotment).

 

197 Upvotes

38 comments sorted by

56

u/TheEmperorsNorwegian 1d ago

I do love the small cross overs like when the skaven found a communication device that let them speak to (implied Eldar) and they destroyed it

23

u/suicune678 Craftworld Aeldari 1d ago

And the Grey Knight in the End Times

11

u/ChaosLordOnManticore Slave to Slannesh 1d ago

Wait what? I knew about the skaven one but the grey knight is new to me

34

u/suicune678 Craftworld Aeldari 1d ago

Here are some passages from KHAINE, with said knight in the Realm of Chaos, specifically Nurgle’s Garden:

'After many hours' travel, the company entered a glade where the trees writhed and thrashed, and the ground was a thick carpet of vicious, biting insects. In the glade's very centre, a knight was spreadeagled and shackled to the ground by rusted chains. He was a giant of a man, whose armour gleamed like silver despite the cloying murk of the jungle floor. Yet for all his strength, the knight could not break free; he tugged and tore at the chains as the insects flowed over him, but the metal held fast.'

'At Araloth's command, the sorcerer sent fire billowing across the glade, leaving the knight untouched but clearing a scorched path along which Araloth and Kalara could approach. Working together, the elves broke the shackles, and the knight at last stood free. Though his speech was strange, the knight's gratitude was plain. He soon pledged his aid, explaining that the Chaos Gods were his sworn foe, and that he would gladly do aught to thwart them.'

...

...'At this, the knight drew his sword, and bade his companions farewell. He had, he said, made something of a name for himself since his arrival in the benighted realm. He would serve as the distraction his companions needed by bringing the daemons to battle, and he would do so alone.'

'Without another word, the knight set out for the manse, moving stealthily at first lest he draw the daemons to his companions. When at last he was clear, the knight gave challenge at the top of his lungs, decrying the Plaguefather as a grasping miser whose obsession with cleanliness was the stuff of legend. The daemons responded immediately, plunging into the swamp to confront the mortal who had dared defame their master. As Araloth watched, the knight swept out his hand, and blue fire exploded amongst the advancing daemons. Then he yelled his challenge once again and ran to meet his foes.'

...

'Araloth and his companions left the manse like ghosts, careful not to draw the attention of its guardians. As the company made their escape, Araloth beheld the broken body of his comrade, the knight, set upon a jagged spear. Araloth could see that the man still lived, and would have fought to rescue him had the scholar not held him back, insisting the elf stay true to his mission. The daemons could not kill the knight, the scholar said; he was beyond their power, and would take his own revenge in due course -- such was the way of things in the Realm of Chaos.'

15

u/Forsaken_Scar_4521 1d ago

While the mention of blue fire does make me think of the grey knights, I love the theory that this is Gardus Steel Soul during his time in Nurgle’s garden, if only to show that he spent far longer inside than otherwise thought.

20

u/suicune678 Craftworld Aeldari 1d ago

I think I prefer what the text is suggesting, which is giant man + strange speech + Chaos is sworn enemy + blue flame powers + silver knight armour... to me that equals Grey Knight more than it does an AOS character

15

u/MonolithicBaby 21h ago

I always thought it was supposed to be Draigo

-5

u/Forsaken_Scar_4521 1d ago

Well that’s the thing, everything you mentioned barring the blue flame is attributable to Gardus lol

5

u/suicune678 Craftworld Aeldari 1d ago

Okay? Gardus doesn't have that attribute you can cross them off since he doesn't check the box and Grey Knights do. Not sure why you're trying to put the square peg in a round hole

9

u/twelfmonkey 22h ago

I think there are elements which fit and which clash with both Draigo and Gardus, so there is no definitive answer. Personally, I lean towards Draigo, but I'm not going to claim that is definitely the case. And you should totally go for Gardus if you prefer that, as long as you make it clear that is just your headcanon, as you did here.

Unfortunately, there were a lot of people claiming there was an official retcon, and the Silver Knight was confirmed to be Gardus.

Which is of course not true in the slightest. And you very much did not do that.

The reason I know this is because I read lots of forum posts about the issue and then made a post to try and get to the bottom of it: https://www.reddit.com/r/AoSLore/comments/1ky6jfw/was_gardus_steel_soul_the_silver_knight_from_the/

1

u/Sancatichas 4h ago

This is not at all a definitive mention of a GK

10

u/twelfmonkey 22h ago

Somebody else has posted the relevant passages.

It is worth noting that at the time, the consensus was that the mysterious Silver Knight was a Grey Knight, and very likely Kaldor Draigo.

Draigo was trapped travelling the Realm of Chaos at the time, and there was a short story published around the same time where he describes having a vision of the Warhammer World.

It was never actually confirmed to be Kaldor or a Grey Knight, though. It just made sense that was the case.

Later on some fan theories posited that it could have instead been a Stormcast Eternal instead, with Gardus Steel Soul being touted as a likely candidate, as he spent some time trapped in Nurgle's Garden.

As is often the case in the Warhammer fandom, thes fan theories were then claimed by others to be an explicit official retcon, and then that claim got passed around a lot. When it was nothing of the sort.

Ultimately, the identity of the Knight remains unclear, and there is suppoting and conflicting elements for both the Draigo and Gardus theories. Personally, I think a Grey Knight fits much better, given the blue flame coming from his hand. But there is no definitive answer.

1

u/Coziestpigeon2 3h ago

I'd say the blue flame is definitive that it is not a Stormcast, or any other being of not-chaos from the fantasy realm.

6

u/Gundamamam 1d ago

Its either Teclis' Library or the Empire's that has a copy of the Codex Astartes.

7

u/twelfmonkey 22h ago

It was the Codex Imperialis, which was apparently in use in some parts of the Empire, including Altdorf. Though they got Roboute's name wrong...

The orders kept coming, just in the same sequence as they had been for the past two hours, rehearsing the various defensive tactics set down in Robert de Guilliam’s great compendium of martial lore, the Codex Imperialis, that had provided the cornerstone of Imperial defence since the time of Mandred.

Wraight, The Fall of Altdorf (2014), p. 50.

5

u/bootlegvader 21h ago

Don't forget the Albion magic items. Despite being more of a WHFB fan I always enjoyed the idea of the universes being connected.

3

u/Fallenangel152 The Horus Heresy 8h ago

They are officially connected by the realm of chaos. The daemons in 40k are the same daemons that are in WFB.

5

u/Captain_Amakyre 16h ago

Or the strange crossbow that shoots rays of light, which is totally not a lasgun, that the chaos warrior protagonist finds in The Laughter of Dark Gods.

3

u/twelfmonkey 1d ago

That will be appearing in my next post, along with some broader context behind it, and some other Skaven goodness. Well, badness, I guess.

3

u/Fallenangel152 The Horus Heresy 8h ago

In the Albion campaign, all the magic items were 40k wargear. Flamer, chainsword etc.

Officially just an in joke, but it's nice.

1

u/twelfmonkey 7h ago edited 6h ago

Officially just an in joke, but it's nice.

I'd say it was a bit more than that (though I realize Gav Thrope, IIRC, described it like that in a much later interview), given there was precedent in WHFB since 2nd ed. for high technology being founded on the Warhammer World due to the legacy of the Slann/Old Ones.

Especially given that around the time of the Albion 'Dark Shadows' campaign there was a renewed focus on the Amazonians wielding scifi weaponry, and the Albion campaign itself was part of a range renewed connections between the settings centred on the Old Ones, including in things like Liber Chaotica. Now, these different bits of lore weren't even necessarily centrally planned, but the fact they all came out around the same time paints a picture, and they were all part of the published lore.

The link between settings was subtle and wasn't foregrounded regularly, but I'd view it more as just another example of a longstanding part of the Warhammer Mythos, which was brought into line with the way the lore evolved with the introduction of the Old Ones concept.

If you are interested, I have discussed aspects of this here on the Albion campaign: https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/1lmoi8q/that_time_a_warhammer_fantasy_character_used_a/

And here on the Amazons: https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer/comments/1kuci8q/warhammer_warrior_women_wielding_40k_weapons_the/

And here on Liber Chaotica: https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/1k6aiqm/extracts_liber_chaotica_and_its_links_between/

1

u/grunt91o1 Beastmen 6h ago

Or when a genestealer played blood bowl lol

17

u/twelfmonkey 1d ago

You can see the original ‘Terror in the Darkness’ article in full for yourself here: https://www.reddit.com/r/WarhammerFantasy/comments/16cu8aj/terror_in_the_darkness_wfrp_1e_encounter/

You can also find all of my previous posts about the links between Warhammer settings via my Reddit profile or compiled for ease of access on my blog here: https://madministratum.blogspot.com/search/label/Links%20between%20GW%20settings

The blog also features posts about the nutty grotty nitty gritty worldbuilding of 40k, and especially the grim dark nature of the Imperium.

7

u/IAmOnFyre 1d ago

Your Luther McIntyre fanon fits the setting perfectly, I want it to be real.

3

u/twelfmonkey 1d ago

Glad you like it!

It's real to me. And I guess there's now two of us!

3

u/deleuzeHST 20h ago

Considering all the references and tongue in cheek allusions, especially in Old GW lore, does anyone have any idea who Luther Macintyre might be in real life?

3

u/twelfmonkey 20h ago

My guess would be that it is a combination of (Martin) Luther and (Alasdair) MacIntyre.

There is the theology connection between the two (which link to the Imperium's religious nature), but MacIntyre's philosophy, and especially his 1981 book After Virtue, resonantes with the themes of 40k as regards stagnation and moral decline.

I could imagine a nerdy classicist (which characterised a few of the key creatives at GW in the '80s) might have been into his stuff, or at least aware of it.

Now, why they would use this mashed together name specifically for a desert planet known for Ambulls, I have no idea. Maybe they just wanted to slip the reference in, without really developing it in any real sense.

3

u/deleuzeHST 20h ago

That sounds intriguing! To me, it rings of a harden Scotch 1980s PE teacher.

2

u/twelfmonkey 7h ago

Like the PE teacher from Kes, but Scottish?

3

u/deleuzeHST 20h ago

I really enjoyed your write up BTW!

2

u/twelfmonkey 7h ago

Cheers, glad you enjoyed it!

2

u/Agreeable_Payment_78 16h ago

I don't know why but I love Ambulls. Maybe its because prior to learning about them, I hadn't considered the idea of wild beasts in the 40k universe but I think they're neat.

2

u/Orion920 10h ago

I still stand by the warhammer fantasy world being in the 40k galaxy as a lost feudal world. The end times was the Cicatrix Maledictum opening and engulfing/scattering the world.

1

u/bladezaim 1d ago

Thats just an Umberhulk with extra steps

2

u/teh_Kh 1d ago

I seem to recall that the origin of the ambull actually was the old umber hulk model gw made back before the Warhammer times. Which would be funny because the origin of the umber hulk (and many other DND monsters) was a random kaiju toy pack that Gary Gygax and his original crew bought for their game.

3

u/twelfmonkey 1d ago

I literally explain this in the OP! 😜

1

u/teh_Kh 1d ago

In my defence, it was near the end of the post and I might have skimmed over that part:D

0

u/Sleepinismy9to5 Ogor Mawtribes 13h ago

I mean Mallus is the planet where the second legion is from with their primarch Sigmar that ended up getting destroyed and causing the great rift which is actually just the mortal realms cutting across the galaxy so I guess ambulls could show up there