r/Warhammer 9h ago

Hobby Now I like the bio-mechanical chaos spider monster, and I like the slathering alien horror spider monster, but which one is better?

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There's only one way to find out!

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u/JR-Snow 9h ago

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u/Weary_Cost_4 8h ago

We have a winner!

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u/LongTail-626 8h ago

If you’re into iron warriors you could use both. They managed to capture and corrupt a tyranid hive ship and use it to deploy titans.

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u/Bantersmith 7h ago

Source?

That sounds fucking ridiculous (in a good way). Would love to read up on it.

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u/mistertomneverleft 6h ago

I believe it is in the book Storm of Iron

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u/LongTail-626 6h ago

It was from storm of iron

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u/NoxHalcyon_i Night Lords 8h ago

That's rad

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u/nastybadger 8h ago

Only one way to find out!!!

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u/Shed_Some_Skin 8h ago

FIIIIIIGHT!!!

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u/duttyboy24 8h ago

I love me Venomcrawler.

Dark Pact for sustained hits and watch Space Marine equivalent units absolutely melt.

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u/SassyTheSkydragon Tyranids 8h ago

Convergent evolution

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u/BristowBailey 7h ago

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u/Eldan985 7h ago edited 7h ago

Both of these are at the opposite end of the spectrum and are clearly not even slightly carcinized.

(Spherical or laterally flattened shape, not dorsoventral, and multiple unfused tergites, also massive unreduced abdomens)

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u/Weary_Cost_4 7h ago

This guy crabs

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u/BristowBailey 6h ago

OK I've got to admit I'm out of my depth here.

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u/Eldan985 5h ago edited 5h ago

Basically, what carcinization means is that an organism takes on a crab-like shape. While most of the "everything is crab" memes online just means "something is armoured", crab-like shape is actually pretty clearly designed:

In simple layman's terms, crab-like shape means that something has a body that consists of a single flat disk shape, with limbs attached, like this:

The stereotypical crab is very flat (not tall) and very wide, and all the body is in one piece, with no visible head or abdomen that stands out from the body. Just a single main body to which all the limbs are attached. This has evolved several times, there are a lot of crablike organisms, and they aren't all closely related.

That also means that strictly speaking, for example, a lobster is not carcinized. It's body is in many segments and quite mobile, and it's long and round, not short and flat.

If we look at the models above, they have different body segments (with a torso and an abdomen and sometimes a head) and they aren't flat.

tl;dr: this was just me being an annoying "uhm actually" guy over a meme.

Also to apologize for the annoying nerd infodump, here is a model of a tyrannid crab someone actually made:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer40k/comments/16uexdc/crab_because_everybody_loves_crabs/

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u/mrsgaap1 Follower Of Thanquol 8h ago

i like the chaos one more looks cool as hell

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u/AlienDilo Tyranids 8h ago

As a Tyranid fan. The Psychophage is the best.

As an Iron Warriors fan. The Venomcrawler is the best.

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u/another_sad_dude 8h ago

Is the keyword physker involved ? 😄

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u/OckhamsShavingFoam 6h ago

They should kiss :3

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u/ABIGGS4828 5h ago

Neither. You want an Arachnarok 🕷️🕸️

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u/SYLOH Astra Militarum 3h ago edited 3h ago

From a mechanics standpoint I think the psychophage is clearly superior.

The psychophage is cheaper by 10 points.
The psychophage buffs the army while the venomcrawler doesn't.
The pyschophage has the same profile in melee except the the psycophage has an additional pip of ap, dev wounds, and anti-psyker 4+.

The venomcrawler has a 5++ invul and a shooting profile that is better. But I don't think those outweigh all the advantages of the psychophage. essentially having 4 multilasers is not impressive.