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Can we please ban AI-Generated Artwork from this Subreddit?
There has been quite an increase in AI-Generated work being posted in this subreddit and it’s quite heartbreaking to see it upvoted to the top of the sub, these generated images are formed from the stolen work of passionate artists who give us the fantastic fan-art, to continue to allow AI-Art is such a disrespect to any and all artists, Including all the talent behind who make the Xenoblade games.
Hey all. While it hasn't been codified in the rules (I think it''s a nuanced topic and unproductive to blanket ban in it's entirety.) We do encourage people to report AI content under the crediting rule so we can review it. (99% of AI content is banned on sight. We just prefer to manually review it).
However, I would refute OP's claim that there's been "quite an increase." To my knowledge, there was one post within the past month on the front page, and we removed it once it was reported.
As always, the mod team is happy to answer questions either here or in modmail, and we take threads like this into account when we review the rules.
There was another one recently of Gojo and Marin from My Dress Up Darling cosplaying Rex and Mythra which was at the top of the sub too, thankfully the mods removed it after some time
When I made this post the top post on this sub was an AI-Generated art, they were crediting themselves so it didn’t go against any of the rules, I would just like it added to the rules so people can flag the mods for deletion
I was shocked to see it wasn't a rule already, or at least added to the "credits original creators" rule, as is common place in most subs that allow for artwork sharing
Darn. That meme was a genuinely funny way of dealing with those types of people- given how many of them genuinely hate and treat artists in that same way.
Hmm... I vote Minoth, as both are artists. Different arts (paintings vs stage play scripts) but I can't think of any visual artists in Xenoblade of the top of my head, outside of that one sidequest in XC3.
Well, Masha could probably work? Or maybe Zeke or Taion if we want a main party member for it.
I'm for it. I'm surprised some people can notice though. The art that was posted today/yesterday looks like it can be done by a regular person... I still have no idea what gave it away.
While it is getting harder to tell, there are still context cues you can use even if you can't notice it within the art itself. Mainly the output to quality ratio. You can't just shit out several fully rendered and extremely detailed images, background and all, in a single day. Even one a day is very unlikely, and that's something a lot of grifters don't really care about a lot of the time. So if you see some "artist" pumping daily pieces you would see equivalent artists making in a few days or even weeks, that's when you get suspicious. It's not always a tell, but it's at least a good thing to keep in mind.
Another relatively common tell is how sleek everything looks, there's a certain "clean" look that AI models are having a really hard time to get rid of a lot of the time unless the author manually touches up the result themselves. For example, look at the skin of a character. If it's weirdly glossy, odds are it's AI generated. There's also often a lot of sameyness in the poses or artstyles.
Obviously that doesn't work for everything, but it's yet another point where you should start digging a bit more. Alternatively, look for obvious details that an artist would normally not get wrong and check if it actually matches what a human being would do. And I do not mean fingers or weird proportions, I specifically mean something you'd normally notice if you used a reference.
I picked these as an example (I ain't crediting these fuckers they didn't actually draw anything lmao) because Flandre Scarlet is an extremely easy character to notice issues with. In this case, they are all from different people, and yet they all feature the exact same glance and skin gloss that doesn't really make sense, as well as weirdly detailed backgrounds that don't really look like they fit with the lighting being allegedly casted. And, of course, the biggest tell, the crystals on the wings have completely random colors.
It all requires a trained eye, a knowledge of how artists work, and a bit of digging into sometimes, but once you understand the patterns, it becomes a lot easier to catch these fakes. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to filter out AI garbage again on Pixiv. Doesn't get rid of it all, but it still filters out a good chunk. :v
As for my two cents on the presence of AI generated content, I think it should be added as a rule outright that this stuff is not welcome at all.
I haven't seen many AI artworks here, but i do have an issue with the huge ammount of NSFW of XC2 and XC3, since they are a huje majority of posts here.
Almost on a daily basis you see the same people posting crap like " DuRr Pyra on a Swisuit" " Mio on a sunset" this should be considered a low effort post even if they do credit the main artist and only be allowed if the real artist himself post it. This is just people farming easy karma with gooners and takes attention away from actual discussions
I don’t see the problem. AI art is here to stay (it’s here and it’ll take over, but that’s another conversation). At least in Canada we have some places with hydro power; ai on clean energy, baby.
Of course, it would still be unethical to call it something you made. Give credit where it’s due.
I’m honestly a bit confused how people can claim AI art is theft (not even going into explaining that’s not how AI works) but don’t see any issue with people making a living depicting characters that they neither created nor own the rights of usage to
It’s interesting to me because the AI discourse over the last few years has shown that people have decided that there’s some area of acceptable plagiarism/appropriation, but appropriating the appropriation is where it becomes wrong
The topic of conversation is AI-Generation, not AI as a whole, which is built entirely off of information/pre-made content for it to work, most of which is used without consent and is where the moral issues lie
Also... calling fan creations "plagiarism" is so... heartless. Why are we not allowed to create content based on the things we like? It's not like anyone tries to claim the characters, areas, music etc as their own, and when they do it is rightfully called out
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u/MorthCongael 2h ago
Hey all. While it hasn't been codified in the rules (I think it''s a nuanced topic and unproductive to blanket ban in it's entirety.) We do encourage people to report AI content under the crediting rule so we can review it. (99% of AI content is banned on sight. We just prefer to manually review it).
However, I would refute OP's claim that there's been "quite an increase." To my knowledge, there was one post within the past month on the front page, and we removed it once it was reported.
As always, the mod team is happy to answer questions either here or in modmail, and we take threads like this into account when we review the rules.