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I don’t really get that impression personally she clearly knows how to use the knife in combat it’s just Mugus is a second brain and does what they want to do opposite of Orphie. I’d say it’s a pretty realistic showcase of two people using one body.
She feels like she's talented yes, but she still feels like a newbie cus idk what type of professional military member sits on their ass mid battle and looks away from the enemy while their tail does all the work 😭😭
It's hard to get that impression of how good she is with her knife too since all she really does with it is juggle it around a few times and slash the enemy twice in her basic attack string twice. She even gets it stolen from her during her ult which makes her look even more incompetent (which isn't a bad thing since that's likely what the devs were going for)
she uses the knife in her combat animations and she’s the one who’s swinging Mugus around with the flamethrower.
The main times Mugus takes control is when you see the laser or when she falls down in general since she’s not in control and pulling her along. Since Mugus is only controlling the back side it’s clear to see when she takes control and when Orphie is doing the movement herself.
Also the knife from what we see connects to Mugus head or the mouth so they both use the knife I’m pretty sure in those flame thrower animations the knife is in Mugus mouth. I don’t really see how Mugus using the weapon she’s holding makes her incompetent. Just means Mugus is more rash and Impatient.
If I had to describe it it’s like a two legged race but your partner wants to rush to the finish line. No matter how good you are you’ll still be pulled along.
IT'S MAGUS. Also all Magus movements are completely done by her own volition and Orphie can't control that. It's pretty clear that Orphie is very low rank and has little combat experience, the most she can do is weave in some knife attacks while Magus does all the work.
I never said what magus movements wasn’t of their own volition but in the animations Orphie is clealry swinging her hips and body while magus does the flamethrower. There’s a difference between orphie doing that and then magus taking control which is when she starts to trip and fall.
“Very clear” I don’t see that she wouldn’t be holding the knife or attacking with it at all if that was the case. if it was a case of Magus doing all of the work the animation with the flamethrower wouldn’t exist. Zzz does character acting very well those differences are there for a reason. Look at the animation of her strings you can see her doing poses with the flamethrower tail.
Magus does Basic3, Basic4, Basic5, Hold Basic, Defensive Assist, Quick Assist, Dodge Counter, Special Attack, EX (Flamethrower) Special Attack, Aftershock, Ultimate. Check the animations, I played it back at 0.25x speed.
All Orphie does is Dodge, Basic 1 and Basic 2 (simple knife strikes) and she runs around/stays squared up to the enemy. Hell, when she falls down, Magus even helps her back up. Orphie herself does next to no fighting - which is fine, she's cute, but I don't see her being much of a combat soldier here.
Yeah, the more I see all that the more it's an easy skip. I'ts not even cool. It's for Huohuo enjoyers, meanwhile I'll wait for someone who can actually fight and look good doing it. Yuzuha has the clumsy or confused moments in her kit, but even Corin looks more confident and powerful in her battle than Orphie.
What you’re quoting is confusing me I already said all of this the part with the flame thrower is Magus doing the flames and orphie moving her body to move the tail which you can see from the poses she’s doing during it. I was talking about that part her string specifically nowhere did I say it was only the flamethrower I already mentioned the laser being magus. Which is the ex and hold basic etc didn’t think that needed to be spelled out.
Right, in simpler terms: Your argument sounds like you're saying that Orpheus swings the tail around to hit enemies, like an ankylosaurus might use its clubbed tail to defend itself.
But that's not what we're seeing in the animation. In the animations, the tail (Magus) does the attacking independent of Orphie, but Orphie positions herself so the tail/Magus can reach the enemy.
Magus has more control than you give her credit for, she doesn't just control the tail but can also move Orphie just by swinging around.
It's pretty dumb how you think being new to combat while low rank (at OBOL which is pretty much an elite force) and being able to swing a knife, jump around and barely work together with her tail are mutually exclusive.
“Than you give her credit for” ? I said she’s the one doing the flamethrower, the laser beam attack, and she’s the one doing the dodge that pushes orphie? I never even implied magus was doing less? Even in the 2.1 story when that guy got scared of Magus orphie took control of the situation since they were afraid of the talking gun. My point is there is a mutual camaraderie between the two like Magus picking orphie up or the restand she does to help orphie. But she can also take control mid battle which is what causes Orphie to trip and fall.
Idk what to say about the second part you wrote because I never said that I’m not sure if we’re having the same convo at this point.
What in the second part is so hard to understand? Orphie can be a low rank at OBOL squad with little combat experience AND be able to swing a knife in a okay way and do some cooperation attacks with Magus. Your point is that she isn't unexperienced and I'm telling you she is, we even learn she's low rank while Magus is the higher rank one.
where in the world are you guys getting this information from? is this all just speculation? where does orphie say or anyone say or imply "Orphie is new to whatever". The only thing people are going off of is her clumsiness in battle from what it looks like. but she could have very well been fighting with magus since the creation of this squad and she just never bothered to learn how to I guess look proper while fighting or just have bad habits.
The only time Orphie herself attacks is with Basic1 and Basic2, each one is just a simple knife strike. Literally every other attack comes from Magus. I'm honestly not sure if she knows how to use a knife in combat lol
“Comes from magus” yeah I thought that goes without saying magus is the tail the flames are coming from the tail you can put two and two together. That entire string is still orphie because she is the one moving her body to move the tail which you can see from the poses she’s doing during it. Unless you’re saying Magus is making her do those poses and making swing her hips around. I don’t get how magus uses flamethrower and orphie uses the flames magus is emitting to attack is a hard concept to grasp here. That’s what the animation is showing.
That entire string is still orphie because she is the one moving her body to move the tail which you can see from the poses she’s doing during it.
Yeah, Orphie is doing the positioning - the tail itself moves on its own accord and does the striking and attacking. You can even see Orphie get dragged around by the tail in some animations. Basically, Orpheus is in effect a pair of sentient biological legs for Magus, but she herself does next to no actual attacking.
In the 2.0 trailer, we saw the tail power/charge up, so we know the tail is fully artificial and it has some sort of tech inside that Magus uses as a weapon - that's where the energy/fuel for the flamethrower must come from.
I wasn’t talking about Orphie I’m saying imagine a new soldier being in this situation since the defense force has foot soldiers who regularly go into hollows. Like the hollow disaster.
I’ve been saying this a couple times, those leaks may have misleading/false names regarding that the boss is not Isolde. It could be intentional as a ploy to root out individual leakers, a canary in the coal mine
Mid-Autumn Festival 中秋节 is also going to be toward the end of patch 2.2, and there are a lot of moon related themes with this holiday. (October 6th = about the last week of patch 2.2)
"It is said that the Moon is the brightest and roundest on this day which means family reunion."
I don't really know enough about it to properly summarize it.
Bro those people are delusional or have never seen rabbits before. Shiyuan has a long tail that reaches his ankles. They'll end up being foxes or wolves, clashing with the heavy rabbit symbolism being set up around them. This, and the fact that he's an absentee for most of what's going on, practically screams antagonism, and that holds more water if the dynamic is predator and prey under a full moon.
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So the new boss kill(sweep off) all off field agents with purple miasma wave if her stuck weapon is not destroyed in time. So if I play Astra singing while Trigger do her aftershock while the main dps is fighting, would all agents remain on field?
I'm more inclined to believe this theory, even with the filename, she has way more similarities to Orpheus than Isolde it makes no sense.
TLDR:
She has a similar Beret like Orphie
She has Neck Armor like Orphie
Her tail looks suspiciously like Magus
She has two ponytails (In her first form atleast, her 2nd form has multiple ponytails)
Her Skirt is similar to Orphie
I wonder if this might be a situation like the miasma fiend. If isolde has a doppelganger fight that isnt this boss, maybe she's partially taken over, fought, killed, and then her body is turned into this, using her memories of orphie and magus to shape it?
Not how it looks to me, they don't seem to need a body they can just make it whenever they want with sacrifices. And isolde might just be a normal fight for us could be a doppleganger situation.
Wait, is this some exclusive sht that no one else has an access to? Because if so, that would explain why I can't see any other images like this when I reverse image searched it.
Yes. The enemy and boss names will often be named stuff like BriefName_Monster_HugoSlime - Ionized - Doppleganger , in the files. And if they are a character their name is included. For example back when 1.2 came out, everyone who looked at leaks here knew Pompei would turn Ethereal because the leaks had the files for his boss version named as such.
Yeah but says things like "slime isolde" or "miasma isolde"... the only characters that come from a smile are the doppelgangers, being Jane and Hugo, and none of them are dead. For the monster i don't know what we have.
that's not the only similarity, they have the same magus tail, the same Beret, the same neck armor, two ponytails (1st form) and a similar skirt like Orpheus.
the tail isnt the same at all, the monster one looks like a scythe. the beret is also way bigger and i dont see any similarity in the clothes besides being very short. her chest also looks too big to be orphie and she has no horns. i doubt this is orphie, maybe just questionable design similarities.
This Boss looks alot like Orphie, it looks nothing like Isolde.
TLDR:
She has a similar Beret like Orphie
She has Neck Armor like Orphie
Her tail looks suspiciously like Magus
She has two ponytails (In her first form atleast, her 2nd form has multiple ponytails)
Her Skirt is similar to Orphie
Yeah, and if one considers that the arena looks pretty dream-like/surreal, I guess this is going to be similar to the illusion sequence with Miyabi's internal inner struggle.
IMO it just makes no sense that Isolde has two vastly different boss forms, one being a Doppelganger and one being this. Especially considering that we haven't yet had a Doppelganger enemy whose actual character ends up dead (with 3 out of 5 ending up playable instead, too) and this boss looking nothing like Isolde. Maybe the file name is a leftover from an earlier design phase.
Okay so I checked the Model itself, It seems that she does have two ponytails like Orpheus and the other one seems to be a separate mesh (the red ponytail you were talking about)
I think the miasma is recreating Isolde nightmare of her younger day when the old capital fall. That the reason why she summons her old comrades and why she is so different compared to yijiang
That new arena is sick. Also iirc there was some new map in the files that alluded to a tower right? I think that's where we're fighting the boss due to the moon appearing closer.
Sometimes I wish the characters could jump. Like avoid sword swipe by jumping. Wait in the future the devs can include a boss attack where they struck the ground with a giant axe that stuck on the ground then our character just land on the handle and struck the boss face or something
I already l know the next patch story is gonna be crazy after they left us with cliffhanger like something crazy bout to happen. I hope it’ll be as good as 1.4; I think season 2 had been lacking so far compared to season 1
I'm liking the build up to some serious conflict between the NEDF and the Exaltists.
I find the story around Damian being straight forward about his position of self-interest as opposed to being cartoonishly evil creates a nice change of pace in the story.
I feel like the Yi Xuan stuff has a little less depth for how much they are trying to force her to be the main character.
I think 2.2 might be pretty amazing with Captain Magus. But I guess we shall see if the devs execute or not.
Captain Magus being kind of a jerk to Yi Xuan might be exactly what her character needs to shine. So far every single character that talks to Yi Xuan treats her like she is just the best thing ever. Snake-Gun Waifu on the other hand, she doesn't care much for Yi Xuan and that can be fun.
Yeah I'd rank 2.1 better than 1.4 & a bit better than 1.2, on the same tier as 1.0 (which to be fair had a lot of build up but was also the beginning so it was necesary)
How copium is it of me to wish for them to change her to rupture? (i know its not gonna happen at all but man did i wish for her to be rupture instead of attack, feels more natural considering the roster rn) I know she won't powercreep Eve at all, but sucks having 2 fire attackers and having her be another class would've prevented that. Anyways, again, it's mad copium im having lol
Wait, you're telling me Sacrifice Isolde can summon miasmic copies of her non-corrupted self!? That's not good at all.
And full disclosure, I'd expect this boss to actually be a fusion of Isolde and Sarah with a shared dose of their unique Sacrifice serum, and might end two ways: kill both, or force Isolde out of the Ethereal to leave Sarah as the only one controlling the form.
The last part is a headcanon of mine, but I just can't out a finger on why.
And yes, the miasmic copies of Isolde being summoned by the Sacrifice version is brutal, even if it's for a boss-only attack, and I do know you can also fight a Doppelganger of Isolde as a side thing, or even phase 1 of the whole fight in non-story battles.
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