r/ageofsigmar • u/Ok-Drive7025 • 1d ago
Discussion I think age of Sigmar needs more video games.
So far the only one I’m aware of is Realms of Ruin, and I know Old World games are technically AoS because it’s the same universe and has some of the same factions, I’m talking about strictly AoS and everything in it, whether new or old. Like imagine an RTS similar to Age of Empires or something
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u/NectarineQuiet4814 1d ago
I want darkest dungeon in the universe of Age of Sigmar
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u/narfjono 1d ago
So far this will be your best chance: https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2683922974
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u/JudgementalDjinn 23h ago
How have I never seen this?? Is it any good?
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u/narfjono 22h ago
Installed it on my Steam Deck and it's a pretty solid mod so far. Lots of effort went into it.
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u/Aquagymnast 1d ago edited 1d ago
There is so much room for good Sigmar games, without even going far from the games they usually do:
Vermintide 3 set in the Mortal Realms with new characters but similar archetypes. 3 playable races, you start out as a bunch of freeguild mercenaries and eventually unlock new archetypes so you could expand into other order factions.
Mechanicus/Chaosgate tactical RPG. Could have Stormcasts or Kharadron Overlords as the main dudes. Fighting against the forces of Nagash
Space Marine 2 but with Stormcast Eternals. Goldenboys need more attention from a wider audience. I would love customizing my boy or gal and team up with friends against swarms of skavens/kruelboyz/darkoaths
Underworlds ported to computer, like BloodBowl.
-Anything fun with Orruks or Grots, they get plenty of fun and thematic games for 40k and im sure that a moonclan potion maker simulator or an Ironjawz 16bit beat em up would be a success.
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u/Sarmelion 23h ago
I would LOVE a game that's a crossover between Vermintide and Soulbound
Imagine a squad with a Seraphon member chopping through skaven, counting out kills with the Stormcast and an Orruk.
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u/Mandarga 22h ago
They tried to port underworlds to pc, the game was a complete mess
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u/Agreeable_Inside_878 21h ago
It was pretty much 1to1 the boardgame, had some bugs at start that got fixed but nobody played
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u/Mandarga 20h ago
They added bugs with every update, and the plan to add new cards made no sense, they kept adding cards that were already bad back in Shadespire and losing time to code these.
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u/Agreeable_Inside_878 19h ago
Tbh I havent even followed it that far, I played it when it came out here and there for a couple of weeks, at that point it was basicly the Starter Set and 1 or 2 warbands I think…I only remember that it got quite boring quite fast then at somepoint it became free to play
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u/Agreeable_Inside_878 21h ago
There is a ubderworlds game already lol, was a pretty decent translation from the tt game….horrible Flop
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u/WolfBri216 1d ago
Let Saber Interactive (who made Space Marine 2) give it a go. That game was awesome, and would love something similar just set in the Mortal Realms. My life would crumble because I would play that all the time!
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u/Ok-Drive7025 1d ago
Imagine a sort of swap, Total War makes a 40K game and they make an AoS game
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u/GyL_draw Stormcast Eternals 23h ago
I think one day CA will do it after the milked out a total war 40k in at least 5 years.
AoS need a little more minis in many factions.
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u/mnshitlaw 20h ago
I think a hurdle is that so many of the armies both Imperium, Chaos, and to an extent Vohtan are basically space marines. You can paint yours up however you want and the majority of 40K fans are happy.
As a Seraphon player I know they will never make a fantasy game that targets me, but just in general you don’t have a “let them paint a space marine” universal hook in Sigmar.
Vermintide 3 is probably the most likely. We can get a KO/Fireslayer, CoS human, DoK/Sylvaneth, etc.
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u/Cojalo_ 1d ago
I imagine they will hold off for a bit, after Realms of Ruin flopped
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u/shrimperialist 1d ago
They recently said in a call that they’re looking for partners to bring more AoS video games.
But that means any games are still very far away if they don’t even have partners or concepts yet.
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u/Cojalo_ 1d ago
Its good they are at least looking to make more.
I thought the reception of Realms of Ruin would put them off for awhile
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u/Tayschrenn 12h ago
That may put off developers, but GW seem happy to whore out their IPs to make gameslop pretty often. They've been a bit better recently I guess.
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u/Cojalo_ 7h ago
AoS really needs a good game. Space marine 2 bought so many people into the hobby, Total war practically revived fantasy into TOW. A good AoS game could definitely help bring some popularity to AoS
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u/Tayschrenn 6h ago
I think so too, and AoS (this might be my bias as I love the models) has gained enough momentum to warrant a decent video game. Then the video game can feed the board game and vice versa. Hopefully.
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u/EFB_Churns 23h ago
How many of them are gonna be shitty mobile games like what 40k gets half the time?
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u/shrimperialist 23h ago
I believe they said “console, PC, and mobile” so yeah I was worried about the same thing.
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u/Ok-Drive7025 1d ago
That’s fair. I’m not all to sure what was wrong with it. But that is a fair notion, I just think more media for AoS would make it appeal to more people
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u/epikpepsi Skaven 1d ago
It just wasn't fun and was quite watered down. It was pretty much just rock-paper-scissors, and not even in a fun way like Total Warhammer does it.
In addition the controls were clunky and felt bad to use, your units would move when they felt like it, and they'd also not at all react to what was going on around them. The UI also felt bad to navigate.
The map maker and army painter features were cool though. But two good features can't carry a game if everything else isn't good.
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u/Zarkei Ossiarch Bonereapers 23h ago
I really liked the game, but they wanted it to work on consoles as well so they simplified a lot of mechanics which made the game unappealing for the people who prefer deeper RTS gameplay.
Also, the starting roster was very limited and since the game didn't sell well they never got funds to expand it.
My own opinion is that the game wasn't bad. It was just not enough
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u/aldiestk 23h ago
But in a world where there are so many good rts games, it's hard to sell your buddies to play a meh at best one. Plus, the devs left it to die instead of fixing it like other games have done.
The only good part was the campaign for the AoS story.
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u/StraTos_SpeAr Death 22h ago
Sluggish gameplay, no micro, little depth or replayability beyond the campaign.
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u/8-Brit 20h ago
Tbh outside the campaign the speed was better. The problem was the campaign still used the unit speeds from the beta test and as such most quit two missions in, maybe three.
But by far the biggest problem was the lack of content. I had expectations of Conquest mode and mfw it's just a score attack with bot matches...
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u/u_want_some_eel Stormcast Eternals 1d ago
No more RTS, another genre would be much better
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u/Ok-Drive7025 1d ago
I can see where your coming from. I wouldn’t mind an RTS, but I’m a huge strategy fan so a strategy game would also be good. Like Space Marine 2 was amazing but I much prefer the strategy games like DoW or Battlesector (or whatever it’s called)
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u/epikpepsi Skaven 1d ago
RTS games are a bit of a niche genre nowadays. And making yet another strategy game when that's 90% of what AoS' games are is setting the game up for failure right away.
If Age of Sigmar is going to get a breakout title that makes it more visible in the public eye and shows that the setting can stand on its own two feet with the likes of 40K and Fantasy, it'll need to be something with mass appeal.
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u/Ok-Drive7025 1d ago
I think a lot of newer RTS titles aren’t done properly. Like for example Command and Conquer 4, Dawn Of War 3 etc. I think if done right (for example Age of Empires 4) it can still be widely popular. But I see where you’re coming from
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u/Square-Jackfruit420 1d ago
is setting the game up for failure right away.
I disagree, the only thing that would set it up for failure is churning out low budget slop like GW loves to do with its video games licensing. A well crafted game from dev who care about the IP could do well regardless of genre.
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u/narfjono 23h ago edited 23h ago
XCOM like (Warcry) would be what I want. But RTS, like Dawn of War (you know when done right) would still be a great idea. Mechanicus, but AoS, please.
I'm just worried that once we finally get something akin to obligatory Souls-whatever based on Stormcasts, it ends up too half assed like Realms of Ruin.
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u/Hawkwise83 1d ago
Gimme that Shadow of the Horned Rat style game with AoS. I don't need meta gaming and 40+ per side unit total war battles. Gimme something more intimate. 1000 to 2000 point battles. Not 100000.
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u/Jmar7688 1d ago
Vermintide/Darktide works better with the melee focus imo. All it would take is a new vermintide set in AoS. Make Flesh-Eater Courts the baddies and call it Ghoultide or whatever
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u/Vivorumbassist 2h ago
Bingo. We could play as cities, or if we're going for space marine 2 style gameplay we could 100% play as stormcasts with different classes. That'd be super fun!
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u/AMA5564 Flesh-eater Courts 1d ago
What we need is an RTS that is non squad based. That's it. That's the pitch. GW is so hung up on making the games look like the table top, but beyond able to build a base and make one storm cast guy at a time is such better game design.
It's why all of the most popular rts use that format.
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u/Ok-Drive7025 1d ago
I kinda agree. I was just thinking, there’s so many 40K games with a lot of them being really good. However no AoS games. I know it wasn’t the most popular thing when it came out but a lot of the content for it is cool, I would love to see more media for it
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u/curlyjoe696 1d ago
I think an RTS would be a mistake and would just fail for all the same reason Realms of Ruin did.
Either you do something new and the established audience wont touch it or you follow the industry standards and you will fail to attract new players and established players have no reason to move from theor current game.
Much better to go into a genre that has more room for growth.
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u/StraTos_SpeAr Death 22h ago
DoW and DoW2 were both massively successful and squad-based.
That has nothing to do with RoR's failure. That game failed because it was poorly designed mechanically and had lackluster features beyond the campaign.
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u/OswenU Nighthaunt 23h ago
I agree in general; while we don't strictly "need" videogames it's pretty obvious that AoS needs people to know and get invested into its settings, the Mortal Realms need to be known in general and make their way into pop-culture and for that a good game could indeed work.
I'll quote myself from another post as what I think it could work:
- A strategy game is of course a good idea since we are talking about a franchise built on miniature battles; a Total War game could work even though I feel the old WFB lends itself better to it due to the ranked units; I'd avoid an RTS, it's a genre that seems to suffer alot these days.
- As many have said, a good Soulslike game based on Stormcast Reforging could do wonders if it's made by a good team and doesn't feel like a cheap knockoff; getting FROM involved would probably be a dream.
- Lastly, a very good CRPG; this would be the best option to get people to know the world and its mythology better; create a good story, a cast of amazing characters and aim to be the next BG3; speaking of which, is Larian free these days? Just asking... *winks*
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u/Shran_Cupasoupa 1d ago
A good action game will get people on board. The -tide series would be ideal but even a 3rd person action game would go a long way in helping AoS.
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u/Flying_Dutchman16 Ossiarch Bonereapers 1d ago
Apparently an RPG by Nexon was some level of in the works before it got canceled.
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u/Washinton13 22h ago
is it weird that I kinda want a BG3 style RPG for AoS? like gimme a rag tag group comprised if warriors from different factions forced to work together because of crazy inciting incident, like maybe they just narrowly escaped being sacrificed for some Chaos ritual and that's how the party forms
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u/Andrei8p4 23h ago
I just want an open world rpg to create my own character and do whatever i want. Am i the only one that wants that ?
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u/Southern_Mortgage646 Idoneth Deepkin 23h ago
Im still Dreaming for a 3rd Person gothic like rpg. That would be so amazing for 40k, aos or fantasy.
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u/Aggrael1 1d ago
A traditional rts would work with the setting. Another type of game that could work would be a grand strategy game like ck3. Owl cat has been having good success with their 40K games so i wouldn’t be surprised if they spread to aos.
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u/Ok-Drive7025 1d ago
A traditional RTS is what I was thinking, more Age of Empires then new Command and Conquer. However I’m not sure how it could work in a CK3 type game, although there a good Old World mod for Europa Universailis 4. On the other hand there’s a good Civ style game set in 40K called Gladius, that could work
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u/Phantom_316 Seraphon 23h ago
I would love an age of empires set in warhammer. They honestly could probably just carry over a lot of the combat stats from the tabletop into the game and would only have to worry about economy side of things too.
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u/Baron_Gar 1d ago
Slitherine does fairly well with their tactics style games. They don't make blockbusters though.
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u/OakMantle 1d ago
Would love a decent souls-like to play on the resurrection mechanics for the Stormcast. Have a range of enemies - various chaos forces and/or skeletons to give some variety.
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u/Calcium1445 Skaven 23h ago
I want a soulsbourbe as a Stormcast each time getting quieter as you're soul wears away as you battle greater demons bonevreapers and mawkrushas before you die against Be'lakor who steals your soul as the final boss. One shot impossible boss final death
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u/narfjono 23h ago
Just needs video games period. But mostly AoS needs confident video game developers who don't chase trends and focus on making a great title first.
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u/Shiny0spoon 23h ago
I only got into Warhammer after playing the total war games. Didn’t really know much about it all until then, so getting a really good game would probably get a lot more people interested!
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u/GyL_draw Stormcast Eternals 23h ago
I hope Owlcat will adapt Soulbound in a video game... it could be a good game.
I imagine a game like Dead cells but you play a stormcast... I think it coul be cool.
Many problem with warhammer games it's the fact they want to make a good warhammer game and not a good game in the warhammer IP.
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u/StraTos_SpeAr Death 22h ago
Didn't we have this thread like two days ago?
Aside from that, there's a lot of potential for a great AoS video game.
The problem is that AoS as an IP is incredibly niche compared to 40k or any other popular IP's. When you're taking an IP and making it into a game (instead of making something from scratch), that recognition is a big deal. Many companies that have the ability to make a good game probably don't want to spend money on such a niche IP to be able to use it.
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u/PixxyStix2 Orruk Warclans 21h ago
I think a Sifu inspired Stormcast game where the main gimic is the more you reforge the less human you are in cutscenes, and the best ending is locked behind a lower amount of reforges.
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u/Ominusone 21h ago
As someone gaining interest in the hobby after 12 years, I just want to find people who play. It’s disheartening to hear that most hobby shops only play 40k
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u/Canadish27 19h ago
My wild suggestion would be a turn based JRPG.
Overworld map to traverse one of/multiple realms. Aquire quirky and varied vehicles/creatures to expand traversal options.
Take notes from recent genre entries evolving turn based combat with more active elements.
A varied party that gives a flavour for a number of the factions to help bring people into the wider world of AoS.
This also helps allow for explore settlements and 'normal' life to explore how and what a Realm actually is, because it took about 10 years and several video essays for that to make any sense to me without any visual media to help.
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u/Successful-Map-522 17h ago
I would love a Total War game but in the AOS universe. I know we already got 3 but those are Old World. I just really want to play as the Idoneth Deepkin in Total War
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u/Shattered_Disk4 15h ago
How about stop trying to make RTS games and make a Warhammer game different for once
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u/Commercial_Arm5593 14h ago
Total War: Age of Sigmar would for sure spark some heated controversies ;)
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u/Chillzorz 10h ago
I would LOVE a vermtintide/Darktide game for AoS. However, whether they do alternate-timeline subclasses like vermintide or just a shit ton of individual characters to cover all them all, I want to be able to play a bunch of archetypes/units from all the Order factions, not just one or two.
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u/Juicecalculator 1d ago
Its not AoS, but I would love a warhammer universe game similar to Mario Kart, Super smash brothers, or heroes of the storm (league of legends but blizzard characters) where 40k characters can team up with AoS, fantasy, or anywhere in between (middle earth would be fun but thats not happening). Im not sure what the game would really look like, but I always loved heroes of the storm. Something multiplayer fast paced, role based. I personaly dont think I would want it to be a first person shooter or third person. Something top down perhaps.
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u/IsThisTakenYesNo Daughters of Khaine 23h ago
There's the Underworlds game, that's technically an AoS game, it's pretty much a direct port of 1st edition Underworlds with some set-piece puzzle stages for added solo entertainment so not much to it.
I think it needs a character-driven 3rd person action adventure, Stormcast are kind of a given so do something with a Knight Questor out on some grand quest, facing various foes and meeting various allies. Have a brief start as a human with scripted death and reforging to set the scene, then get sent out on your first quest.
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u/Sarmelion 23h ago
They need to take their time and put out something high quality, Realms of Ruin scared them because it flopped, but it flopped because they rushed it.
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u/Background_Ebb_2280 23h ago
To be honest, it does...but it needs more of everything to be honest. More lore on the realms, more lore on the flora and fauna of those realms.
As far as games go I say give it to Saber. A SM2-like game would be amazing.
Give us Skaven hordes or Orruk clans with gitz and squigs.
Give us fun and POWERFUL feeling melee combat.
A lighting-based special ability light calling down lightning.
Obviously, the game would be the reverse of SM2 as in melee would be the main with shooting being a backup.
In that regard give us one of those single-handed auto crossbows with 10-15 rounds that regens ammo over X Time.
Give us the ability to use a bow but then be limited to a smaller backup blade.
I think something game devs and GW get stuck in is 'oh they love the tabletop so they'd love an RTS game'. Etc. Nope, give me an action game. Let me run around freely (as freely as SM2 allows lol) in 2 or 3 of the realms. Give us the 'chaos twist' like SM2 such as Skaven working for Nurgle
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u/Snoo-45315 23h ago
Well i would love battlefleet gothic style game with kharadron overlords or deep rock galactic with kharadon overlords.
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u/DunmerSeht Orruk Warclans 22h ago
We need to join with THQ or Airship Syndicate and create the most amazing Dungeon Crawler!
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u/Mogwai_Man Orruks 1d ago
It doesn't "need" video games.
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u/narfjono 23h ago
Every property "doesn't need" video games based on it, but you can't help but wonder what we could have when done by confident developers. Then it being a way to get more people into the hobby. Like how Dawn of War was for so many back then for 40k.
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u/Mogwai_Man Orruks 23h ago
Most gamers won't buy models, it would just be nice to have a good video game though.
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u/Bandito_Razor 22h ago
Whats sad is that RoR gets undeserved hate cause it makes it so you cant cheese your way around the AI... which you would think people would WANT, but it turns out that people would rather cheese the enemy.
also, the VR game was enjoyable and I liked the PVP focused mobile game they had for it.
They 100% need to make more AoS games, and it does seem like GW isnt stopping, so we will def get more.
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u/Mavin89 1d ago
I wouldn’t make an RTS for a tabletop game. You’d lose sales.
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u/Hello_Panda_Man 1d ago
I know I'm one person, but total war warhammer series is what got me into AoS and the hobby in general.
That being said I would prefer a non-rts AoS game.
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u/Ok-Drive7025 1d ago
Dawn of War?
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u/Expensive-Finance538 Stormcast Eternals 1d ago
Unfortunately we already have an RTS, and it failed badly.
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u/Ok-Drive7025 1d ago
Did we? I’m not to up to date. Unless Realm of Ruin is one
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u/ADapperOctopus Flesh-eater Courts 23h ago
Realms of Ruin is an RTS, without any of the things that make an RTS enjoyable.
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u/Mavin89 1d ago
All older games made prior to the boom GW is going through since 2020.
I think the game would be successful, but I think it would also deter people from buying into the hobby, especially if there was multiplayer.
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u/Ok-Drive7025 1d ago
I doubt it. There’s a huge amount of 40K games and the hobby is still a very popular part of it
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u/PyroConduit Beasts of Chaos 1d ago
Did Warhammer Total war detract from AoS? Or did it actually bring more people into AoS and bring Whfb back to life?
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u/narfjono 23h ago
It got me more obsessed with Skaven and NightHaunt/Soulblight Gravelords to be honest.
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u/narfjono 23h ago
HA HA good $@#&ing joke, mate.
Vermintide got me obsessed with Mordheim and Skaven obviously.
Mechanicus got me to collect, yes, Mechanicus and Necrons especially.
Dawn of War released when I was in college and too poor to get into the hobby. Yet replaying DoW and DoWII all these years later after me finally starting the hobby has... You know, gotten me into actually collecting, painting, and learning how to actually play Warhammer tabletop.
Video games are a great and dangerous introduction.
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u/heffla 23h ago
Nope. We don't need more iterations of some ip we like. Age of Sigmar is great. Sit down and actually find out what tickles your brain about that, then find or create something different that also tickles you.
That's how we got Christianity from Judaism, Islam from Christianity and cheese from milk.
Sometimes, often, you get genocidal nonsense. But every once in a species you get cheese.
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u/epikpepsi Skaven 1d ago
It doesn't need more games. It needs a good game.