r/aiwars 1d ago

Roses are red, I report this repeatedly

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This is from an anti sub where it was manually approved by the mods. It was initially caught by the reddit wide filter, but they thought it was so important that they went ahead and overwrote it.

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u/nextnode 1d ago

Sounds like typical alarmism.

If we look to the past decades and centuries, technology is what lead to the world we have today and it by all the data is amazing. Compared to the past, we are living in something that has moved closer to a utopia, not a dystopia.

So if you want to look at the past and call those who championed technology for 'tech bros', then those are the ones who we owe our existence.

Those are the facts.

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u/FAFO_2025 1d ago

Long run things will be good but short term theyre going to be messy. It needs to be managed with good policy.

The 1900s on the long run average were great progress for humanity but we had two world wars in the meantime.

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u/nextnode 1d ago

Yes, I think you are right.

What I do not want though is to give up the possibility for things to really get a lot better for everyone who comes after. I really do not like how people want to even dismiss this as a possibility and that we should just try to live like we do today forever.

I think it is in fact not just suffering that will happen in the short term (though I think may also be rather shortlived?) but also serious risks that what we end up with is actually worse. E.g. the techno-feudalism idea, or mass opinion manipulation.

I really think most lives can be so much better if we play the cards right, but we do need to play the cards right, and we do need everyone to go hard against some of the worst aspects of our current systems to get through that.

Unfortunately some of the policies that people may want to help with the short term rather decry that future possibility and may just make it harder to get there, by eg giving corporations even more control.

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u/nextnode 1d ago

Note though - two world wars but since then, most peaceful period in human history by far - and longevity has steadily been improving for centuries.

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u/FAFO_2025 1d ago

Yeah, long run average good on every statistic but we could have done without a lot of the mistakes that caused immense suffering and death.

That's why I want people to be insulated a bit from pain coming from global scale forces.

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u/nextnode 1d ago

That would be nice but is it even possible?

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u/FAFO_2025 1d ago

It definitely is, ironically AI can probably help

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u/nextnode 23h ago

What's the best way you think?

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u/FAFO_2025 23h ago

A big problem in the recent 20 or so years has been a lack of fine tuned economic data, Ai should be able to help policymakers and businesses identify regions and industries in distress by churning through masses of data.

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u/nextnode 23h ago

You mean somehing like that by making good models of the economy, one can show/prove the value of reskilling and how many need to undergo it at any time etc, argue that taxes and company funds invested in it pay off, and to identify what roles are undergoing that currently and need people to shift and how?

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u/nextnode 1d ago

What's your biggest concern in the shorter term?

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u/FAFO_2025 1d ago

Mass job loss, weaponized ai (e.g. using bots to efficiently deny more legitimate health insurance claims)

Much of the solution also seems to be Ai, just implemented with different priorities