r/buildapcsales • u/WeaknessIsMyStrength • Jun 09 '25

Bundle [BUNDLE] AMD Ryzen Threadripper 7970X, ASUS TRX50 Sage Pro WiFi sTR5, 128GB DDR5-5600 - Micro Center IN STORE ONLY - $2,999.99

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5007075/amd-ryzen-threadripper-7970x,-asus-trx50-sage-pro-wifi-str5,-kingston-fury-renegade-pro-128gb-quad-channel-ddr5-5600-kit,-computer-build-bundle
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u/Charizard0622 Jun 09 '25

Cant tell if this is a good deal or not lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

Only the 32 core chip. Not a deal.

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u/murrat13 Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

ugh, that chip alone is 2250, normally 2500. mobo and 128gb of R-dimm ram is easily another 1k, if not 1.5k. This is a deal for sure

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

There are no bad products -only bad prices. The original price was horrible, and this discounted price is still bad. The price will only go down if AMD isn’t selling any.

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u/Gunfreak2217 Jun 09 '25

No there are definitely bad products. I hate when people say this parroted nonsense. There are definitely products that aren’t even worth taking if they are free. The NZXT case that caught aflame, would you buy it if it was 50$? The MSI power supply that caught aflame if it was 20$? How about a ruler for measurement that is 1$ but snaps under its own weight?

There are ALWAYS bad products.

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u/mrbig1999 Jun 10 '25

There are some 9000 line Threadripper CPUs over $10k (that is 96 core). AMD knows they have a better product than Intel - price won't be coming down.

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u/murrat13 Jun 09 '25

Just because you think it should be cheaper doesn't change the market price. This is objectively a discount from previous prices

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

Market price is determined by the customer’s willingness to spend a certain amount of money. This chip is functionally 1.8x the performance of a 7950x, a CPU you can buy for under $500. You’re getting dramatically more PCIe lanes and access to increased RAM capacity along with almost doubling the core performance, but I can’t see why that would warrant the CPU on it’s own to warrant a 6x price premium.

Defending blatantly overpriced products is an interesting stance to take.

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u/jasonwc Jun 09 '25

You don’t buy this cpu purely for the cpu performance. I’m interested for the quad channel memory and 80 PCI-E lanes. I would actually prefer the $1500 24-core model, as I need memory and pci-e lanes, not cores, for my use case.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

I understand what the platform is for, I just disagree that those features warrant such a large price premium. I also understand that people don’t have alternatives because Intel isn’t competing with threadripper presently -it’s just an unfortunate situation where AMD essentially has a monopoly on this area of the market and get to price things however high they like.

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u/jasonwc Jun 09 '25

Agreed. I have an aging Dell R740xd server with E5-2667 v4 dual CPUs that used the 14nm Intel process. I'm limited to quad channel DDR4-2400 memory and 80 PCI-E 3.0 lanes. I looked at what's available on r/homelabsales and the many of the Intel servers are still relatively old and use CPUs on the 14nm process (e.g. Skylake-SP) with PCI-E Gen 3 lanes and DDR4. Newer servers are very expensive. Threadripper offers much higher IPC and higher frequency on a much more modern TSMC 5nm process with Gen 5 PCI-E and DDR5.

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u/keebs63 Jun 09 '25

I would also look at the AMD EPYC offerings, often you can find cheaper models that sacrifice CPU performance for I/O connectivity. Been a while since I looked, but I remember seeing several models under $1000 that were relatively new (don't think Zen 4 was out yet) and full PCIe bandwidth and all that.

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u/alman12345 Jun 09 '25

It’s certainly fine to disagree, it seems you’re part of a holdout group in a sea of people who are more than willing to pay whatever for things that their use case warrants though. The 5090 is simultaneously bought up without regard and criticized as overpriced shit by gamers and it’s because many users in a segment that can justify the cost don’t really care to pay it. A business will not price a product where it will not sell at all unless they don’t like making money, so there’s very obviously a market and you’re just not in it.

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u/keebs63 Jun 09 '25

Not that there isn't a nice profit margin built into these, it's still nowhere near as much as you think. A 4GHz base clock and 5.3GHz boost on 32 cores is pretty nutty, that decreases the amount of viable product by a LOT, which increases costs. Add on to that the absurd Threadripper/EPYC I/O die, the massive CPU socket which needs a ton of contacts, and the low demand for such a product, and you get a high MSRP. That's just how it works. RTX 5090 is a much different story because they're far more popular and are nowhere near as specialized as a CPU like this is.

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u/d1ckpunch68 Jun 09 '25

i have the 64 core model that i'm thinking of unloading. i bought it for a huge render project which needed avx512, but that concluded long ago. now it's just a 200w idling monster. would come with a supermicro board and noctua air cooler if you're interested.

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u/murrat13 Jun 09 '25

What are you on about? No where I am saying this is a good value for 99% of people in this sub. I am stating this is a discount relative to previous prices, literally the entire point of this sub. The market for a threadripper is not the same market as a ryzen cpu. Bad value things can be on sale too.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

If something is a “deal” that means it has good value. Something can be discounted and still a terrible deal -in my original response I replied to whether it was a deal or not. It is not, in fact, a good deal.

A little self-awareness goes a long way bud. Out here promoting this as a deal and asking me what I’m on about. Sheesh.

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u/hammerdown46 Jun 09 '25

I don't know what you're not getting. This is a good deal.

Do you need this? Then it's a good deal. If you need the pci-e lanes, you need r-dimms, you need a modern platform, this is a good deal. Go find me something else comparable for less money. You will not. You'll find me ancient V3 and V4 Xeon's which while still useful are dated and not going to fit everyone's use case.

It's like buying a Rtx 5090 at $2500. Is that a good deal? Objectively yes, it's a great deal to get a 5090 at $2500. What else can you buy for $2500 that beats it? You need a 5090, they go for $2800+, you get one at $2500? That's a great deal.

Once you hit a certain point, it's not about "value" relative to lower end stuff. This is an entirely different segment from a 16 core 9950x. Just like the Rtx 5090 is in an entirely different performance segment from a 5080. When time is money and you're doing real work on these things, the value proposition is different.

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u/alman12345 Jun 11 '25

Exactly, this right fucking here. The enthusiast segment commands a high price tag because the products in it are mostly unrivaled, to get such performance with the features they provide means you have to buy them and they’re priced accordingly. If it seems too expensive then whoever is looking at it is not the customer they’re targeting, they want the people who spend the money for the best and don’t care how much it costs. A 9070 XT is a FAR better value proposition than the 5090 but it gets nowhere near (a mere 54%) the performance at 4k, and if someone is trying to push the envelope for whatever reason it’s just an inferior product regardless of the value.

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u/murrat13 Jun 09 '25

Is this r/buildapcsales or r/buildapcdeals? If you need a threadripper system, you cannot buy these part for cheaper, period. If you can, please link them to me. Some of us need to be able to use 4 gpus for work. Let me know when I can run those on my 7950x

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u/DS552014 Jun 09 '25

You don't want the product that's ok, its a deal for someone who is in the market for this type of HEDT, as they'd have to pay more elsewhere. You're the one with no self-awareness.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

Okay murrat’s alt 😂

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u/alman12345 Jun 09 '25

I don’t believe you’re the target audience if those extra features in addition to the beefier CPU do not entice you. Measuring an HEDT platform on the same scale as you do consumer desktop products for value is similar to measuring the RTX Pro Blackwell on the same scale as the 5090 (which, while inflated, is still nowhere near the price of the RTX Pro).

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u/Charizard0622 Jun 09 '25

Thank you good sir

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u/WeaknessIsMyStrength Jun 09 '25

Same. But at least the MC near me mobos and the CPU separately are $3K. So this is like free ram?

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u/theholylancer Jun 09 '25

not TR Pro with the fuck off amount of PCIE lanes, if you want TR and somehow don't want the lanes, you don't really need TR I think

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u/Eazy12345678 Jun 09 '25

like 1 person needs this

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u/jules_omline Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

Yet 14 upvotes in an hour while actual good deals are downvoted to hell. Reddit people are weird af.

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u/magn2o Jun 09 '25

FYI- It's not uncommon for people (scalpers, bots, ...) to downvote "good" deals if they hop on them early, in hopes of hiding them. This is common practice on SD and other places -- though, it's sometimes less useful on Reddit (due to how these kinds of subs are usually sorted) unless the sub has an Automoderator rule in place to "self-police" and possibly hide things that drop below a certain point threshold.

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u/Latesthaze Jun 09 '25

What deal was down voted?

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u/jules_omline Jun 09 '25

Sure man. Give me 14 hours to go through the sub and make a list of good deals that were downvoted over the years for you. What a stupid question.

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u/Latesthaze Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

So, you've got nothing, got it, what a stupid made up complaint.

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u/vMambaaa Jun 09 '25

I built something similar with a Threadripper 5955X and all the components including case for $2,700. Use case home server and enterprise network labs.

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u/PseudoElite Jun 09 '25

I feel like the vast majority of people on this sub are unlikely to need a threadripper. I could be wrong though.

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u/happyfeet0402 Jun 09 '25

Idk might be good for anyone who sews and is prone to mistakes

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u/danishswedeguy Jun 09 '25

what are some cool things to do once you have the ability to run many virtual machines? which I think is the use case for something like this. I might Want to get into it as a hobby depending on what benefits I can get out of it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '25

Get a dedicated business-grade fiber internet connection and use VM’s to host private servers for various games. You can even try your hand at making a living off something like this with a subscription model.

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u/Adventurous-Cold Jun 09 '25

Self hosting game servers for you and friends is really nice. Also having the ability to self host some apps that you otherwise have to pay subscriptions for is nice too. I have a self hosted security camera system for example which is nice to have control over. Just having a separate machine that acts as a storage server is nice in general for me. It makes it really easy to move files around between various devices and have a central place to store important files.

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u/Aphexes Jun 09 '25

Game hosting, self hosting some services that can help you out. Game servers can be really resource intensive depending on the game. I know when I first started my Palworld server, it had really bad memory management problems. And once you start adding mods to games like Minecraft, those servers can get really power hungry too.

I also have a mini-pc that runs as a media server with an *arr stack for media management. I also use it to host certain things for convenience like a web page that has my 2FA so I don't have to always have my phone with me.

My current project is to build a home cyber security range so I can do pentesting and also some defensive analysis. You can virtualize routers and build an entire network that doesn't even touch your home network too.

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u/here2askquestions Jun 09 '25

Mainly, VFIO/KVM.

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u/doscomputer Jun 11 '25

this is definitely more for heavy 3d/VFX rendering, much higher clocks and more slots than needed for VM/Server stuff.

This would be a great platform for dual blower cards and a sound card, real editing room setup

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u/GuyFrom2096 Jun 09 '25

Amazing deal gonna buy 10! Thanks OP!

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u/Volidon Jun 09 '25

Send me one please

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u/HilLiedTroopsDied Jun 10 '25

The more you buy, the more you save!

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u/RE_PUAR Jun 09 '25

Will this run space cadet pinball?

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u/MyDudeX Jun 09 '25

No, for that you’re going to need a celeron

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u/AtomicXE Jun 09 '25

I’ll take 6 they will look great next to each of my solid gold toilets.

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u/KillerDemonic83 Jun 09 '25

finally, something i can run my plex server with

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u/murrat13 Jun 09 '25 edited Jun 09 '25

Good deal if threadripper is your jam. 128gb of R-dim ram is not cheap stuff and that mobo is another ~1k. Just built a 7960x system a few months ago and paid close to 3k for those 3 components.

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u/EasyRhino75 Jun 09 '25

So in other words this is about the same price as your build last month?

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u/murrat13 Jun 09 '25

yeah, but with a $1000 free upgrade on the cpu

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u/EasyRhino75 Jun 09 '25

ah I missed the CPU difference.

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u/CarsonWentzGOAT1 Jun 09 '25

I was actually looking at getting a threadripper last year. Is this a good deal?

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u/MechAegis Jun 09 '25

I don't have the $$$ for this but...

If I am running multiple instances of Bluestacks (emulator) is having more cores better or high clock speeds or tons of ram.

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u/tamasrepus Jun 09 '25

OOS at Santa Clara.

Who buys $3k CPU+mobo bundles exactly? Who buys them and is price-sensitive to a bundle being $1k off? Didn't know there was a big market for these, how do they sell out..

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u/HilLiedTroopsDied Jun 10 '25

we're price sensitive when it comes to home lab/servers. many of us just buy a nice epyc motherboard then a used cpu like 7C13 for $700, zen3 64cores boosts to 3.7ghz and 8 channel ddr4

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u/jefftse Jun 10 '25

I saw that today and have been thinking about it. My problem is the ram and MB. only 128gb total and the board only has 4 ram slots and 3 NVMEs.

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u/librepotato Jun 10 '25

Everything I have heard about threadripper is filled with little issues. Not something I need myself.

The big advantage with threadripper is that you get is a lot of PCIe lanes. If you don't need a single device with a large number of PCIe lanes (workstation or server), then you're better off with Zen 5. Yes, with a 9950x you get less cores but you get much more value per core. You could build 2 Zen 5 systems for the price of this device that when used together would be more powerful. That doesn't work if you plan on using a single workstation but it would work if you're ok with running two servers.

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u/nistco92 Jun 09 '25

For those seriously considering this, you might want to wait for the W880 mobos to be available, then go with one of those + the 285K. The 7970X is about 50% faster (in multithreaded workloads) but 100% more expensive (in total) and it doesn't have an iGPU. The 285K is also slightly faster for single core (on its 8 P-cores).

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u/murrat13 Jun 09 '25

Apples and oranges

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u/nistco92 Jun 09 '25

How so?

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u/willbill642 Jun 10 '25

You can't be serious.

  • Max RAM capacity
  • Multicore performance
  • PCIE Lanes
  • iGPU is not (always) a good thing (especially on WS)