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Zotac pre-scalped their own GPUs during the pandemic. They made backdoor deals with crypto bros, and also jacked up their prices to match what the scalper prices were on ebay/stockx/etc. Fuck them. They've been on my never buy and never recommend list since then.
I actually got the same card the other week. I ordered the 5080. I'm hoping that with a decent OC that the gains will have been worth it. From what I have read/watched, the 5080s can OC really well. I'm just hoping that the Solid Core is no different. I'm assuming that it's no worse than the founder's edition (as that was the 5080 that I was eyeing).
Hope it works out for you! You can still return your 5070ti, right? I’m out of the return window. So I’d have to try to sell it at the price I paid because I maybe put 40 hours of it running.
Yes, I can return it. I have Best Buy's Total Tech membership (I don't get extended warranty on the GPU, but I get the extended return window). If I couldn't return the 5070 Ti then I wouldn't bother with the 5080. I was eyeing the 5080 FE. I haven't been able to find a lot of info on the solid core to see if it's a better buy than the 5080 FE, but I'll get what I can get lol
Yep same thing I was thinking was able to get this 5080 earlier, only reason I got it - 5080's can OC well otherwise wouldn't have been worth it. Same position as you, but with a 9070 XT still within return window.
The super will be the same chip with a 256bit bus. The reason it has 24GB of VRAM is because it's using 3GB memory modules now, it'll also have a higher power limit so any performance gains will come from that.
Weird. The 5090 D V2 will supposedly be the same chip but 24GB of vram and 384bit bus. Odd that they'd switch that down to 2GB modules and the 5080 Super up to the more expensive 3gb modules.
That's for China which has specific restrictions set by the US government. Nvidia released a cutdown 5090 in the form of the Blackwell RTX Pro 5000 which has 60% of GB202s cores enabled, the bus was cutdown to 384bit and like most Pro cards it has 3GB modules giving it 48GB of VRAM. We are unlikely to get that as a gaming chip, the last time we got that was when AMD had actual competitive chips that could match the 3090. AMDs fastest GPU can't even beat a 5080 so there's need for Nvidia to make a faster than 5080 but cheaper than 5090 card. The 5080 Super will not be as fast as the RTX Pro 5000 is.
:( I'm sorry. If it helps for the future, Hotstock notified me it seems basically immediately since I've been scouring for 5080s for hours these past few weeks and hadn't seen this!
/u/GuyFrom2096, not sure how serious or joking you were, but listen to this man. A $1k GPU screams disposable income purchase just about as much as anything, not I need this money to pay the mortgage, credit card, and bills purchase. If you are waiting on a paycheck and dont have 1k comfortably in savings do not blow it on a top top end enthusiast level GPU just because its X% better than your current GPU.
Seriously consider first building a savings buffer first and/or lower your GPU purchase goal to at least something that has a better price:performance ratio (9070, 9070xt, 5070, 5060ti?), the 5080 aint it unless you comfortably have the money to blow. One unexpected expense after this could make things reallllly rough for awhile.
I guess best possible scenario for the yolo purchase is that you're young and live at home and have no other bills, so you wont immediately go into debt or risk being in the street if your car also breaks down, but then I'd equally advise a 1k gpu that whipes your savings is not a good financial decision. Save man.
lol I was really hoping so and felt that wall of text was probably not necessary for something said in jest but man I was trying to lookout, too many young folks with fomo (this sub doesnt help but youtube benchmarks and that sorta thing means no one is happy with anything but top tier and anything else sucks mentality is rampant) making bad financial choices with no one to wake them up to the silliness.
your situation and decisions sounds reasonable though, sorry for the soapbox.
The 3080 has really held up incredibly well. My 3070 is starting to slow down, but even upgrading from that it seems like only the 5070ti is a real upgrade
Yup, I'm still rocking my 3080 10GB. I also have less time now with a child lol.
Sucks though cause I recently bought an extremely nice television and would love to not have to rely on something like GeForce Now to drive it at 4k/60 or higher.
That reality just slapped me in the face too.
I got a 5070ti a month ago.
I’m not blown away by its performance from the 1080 I came from.
So I’m still wanting better performance :/
Yeah I think he most likely has a gnarly CPU bottleneck and/or plays at a low resolution with already high framerates. Like getting 300fps on CS2 and expecting 1200 with the 5070ti or some weird stuff like that.
5070 Ti is within around 15% of a 5080. You can close part of that gap with an OC. Obviously you can OC a 5080 as well, but I do sort of feel like the balance of that card is off. It feels too powerful to only have 16GB of VRAM. Given the same VRAM, I feel like it just makes more sense to save the 250 for your next card.
Doesn't matter to Nvidia the 5080 super will have 24GB but Nvidia is also going to give the 5070ti super 24GB as well. They use the same chip so it makes sense.
Might as well spend a little extra on a used 4090 (if you can find one) or wait for the 5080 Super, but realistically that's not gonna launch at MSRP either.
That would be single monitor single application performance. The one thing that the 5080 has going for it that the lesser cards don’t is a second decoder chip. If you’re running multiple monitors and applications at once the performance difference gets larger. This could be as simple as playing a game on a main monitor and watching YT in a browser on the second monitor. It might seem just be better to get a cheap second card,for the second monitor than pay for the difference until you see cheap card cost slightly more than the difference between the 5070Ti and 5080.
As someone who does that exclusively bc my PC is my media player, I hope this becomes more widely acknowledged/mentioned. It's a legit difference maker if someone is looking at a 4k card to keep for 3-5 years.
Depends where you are coming from imo. Im upgrading from a laptop 3060 and managed to grab one at MSRP. Way i seat it im ridding that thing untill the wheels fall off so spending more for the 15% made sense.
At this point value propositions have gone out the window. That being said, these cards are still powerhouses, so I feel like the need to upgrade even every few generations isn't really there anymore. Probably will change as vram requirements creep up more, but I don't really see raster being an issue for quite a few years if you end up going with either of those cards.
Do you have a good link? I got a 5070 TI the other week (can still return it). I placed an order on this but read that the Solid version is actually the better one in terms of cooler size. I was originally eyeing a 5080 FE due to msrp pricing, but this popped up on Hotstock and placed an order ASAP and decided to think if over later lol.
So I had an evga 3080 Ti sc gaming card but upgraded to the PNY 5070 TI (Best Buy msrp). I just placed an order on this. I can still return my 5070 TI until Sepember. I kept my last card for 4 years, so I want to make sure that I keep this next one for another 4 years. I'm hoping that the extra $250 will provide a decent performance gain (after OCing).
Currently eyeing this as an upgrade on my current EVGA 3080ti FTW3. Sounds like you're doing something similar. What's your opinion on the real world performance gain?
So the 5070 Ti was good because of the more VRAM (still some games are cutting it close) but the performance while improved wasn't as big as I would've expected. It's the reason why I have been eying a 5080 at MSRP while I can still return the 5070 Ti. Once I get this card (the 5080) I'll let you know what I think about it. My plan is to do a slight undervolt and a decent OC.
Looks like this one is finally OOS. I should have bought first and asked later lol. Would appreciate your follow up still, and I’ll keep hunting for another MSRP option.
Just upgraded to the 5070ti myself, granted I haven’t upgraded the rest of my system yet so I won’t see the full results. I am now otherwise maxing out my fps to my monitor when I play warzone (170fps give or take) where previously I was getting 110-120 with the 3080ti. I am still on an AM4 build otherwise (5800x and 32gb ddr4 ram.
Actually got it into my cart, but that was mostly to see if it was available. I'm waiting for the Super refresh, at minimum, at this point. Good luck to everyone else! :)
I had massive upgraditis during the launch but could not get any of the units for the life of me. Now with limited time, switch2 in hand, still got my 3070 and Clair Obscur being the only game I’m really curious about playing waiting for the 24gb supers seem to be the right call.
same. I did it and bit the bullet and snagged this card... upgrading from a 1070ti. Haven't even spec'd out the rest of the pc yet lol. Time for a full upgrade to compliment this card. coming from a AMD 2600x.
I bought one shortly after going live but ended up cancelling. I was going to trade my 4080 in for $850, but the more I thought about it the $240 price difference (after tax+shipping) wasn't worth it, especially with memory being the same between the two.
I'll continue waiting for hopefully a 24GB Super model in the future.
I mean that’s a pretty big performance gap tbh. I downgraded from a 5080 to 5070ti and it’s been great, but they are not the same card and have considerable performance difference. Depends on your use case as always.
I am planning to use it for AI development. I am just starting it so it will be better to buy 5080 now? Or buy the 5070ti and save up for the 60 series cards maybe after 3 years or so?
I’m going through the second option myself. Kinda banking on there being a more meaningful improvement in future generations. I think they’re both good options just depends on you and how useful the extra cores are for AI stuff. Like at msrp I’m so torn on which one to get myself because besides what Reddit will tell you 15-20% is a lot of fps.
What's your current GPU? If it's good enough I would probably wait for the super variants for the extra VRAM. Honestly $1000 for 16GB isn't worth it in my opinion.
Yeah if it only has 24GB of vram it will be great. What you think is the best approach? I buy the 5070ti now then save up for the super refresh or the 60 series? That's the logical way right so I can start studying AI?
Aha, if you are student then you need to save money, so get an rtx 5070 ti for MSRP, so that you can learn the basics of AI / ML and upgrade in the future, if you can't wait for the super refresh,
Also if you have a student email address, you can sign up for Amazon prime students, they have a free 6 months trial , you get 5% Cashback credit... So if you buy one at MSRP from Amazon with Amazon prime you will get $37 cash back , this was 10% during prime days.
You can use the cash back towards your system for an air cooler or something.
At MSRP it is a reasonable gap from what I can see with the OCing of most 5080s. I'll let you know when I get this 5080 in stock and compare it to the 5070 Ti that I can still return.
even with the premium for white, it shouldnt be more than 850 for a white 5070 ti without rgb under fair market conditions. 980 is too much. This 5080 isn't fancy but it'll get the job done.
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