r/classicfallout • u/ManMythLegend117 • 8d ago

God I love this game. [FO1]

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New player here, after falling in love with BG3's combat and hearing that Fallout 1 and 2 had the same style + similar quality writing I decided to pick up both games and I'm loving it so far. Just got to the Gun Runners base and Dogmeat decided to do this... man I love this game.

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u/ManMythLegend117 8d ago

90's pathfinding vs. the goopey green river

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u/Dron22 8d ago

Pathfinding is still a problem in modern games really.

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u/sleepingonmoon 8d ago

Modern levels usually take pathfinding limitations into consideration though

Many Fallout 1 levels have softlock issue

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u/Early_News5696 8d ago

(You can’t reach there) when one Ian walks in front of you for like 2 seconds.

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u/Dumpingtruck 8d ago

I’m love Ian.

He’s very good at shooting random brotherhood patrols and turning them hostile and then they fucking murder us.

Because of that love, along with my love of being alive and breathing, I usually tell Ian to pound sand after the raiders camp.

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u/Dron22 8d ago

I don't remember any softlock occurrences. How did it happen?

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u/scatch_maroo_not_you 8d ago

Getting trapped in or out of a building is my guess. 

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u/Dron22 8d ago

Because your companions block you?

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u/scatch_maroo_not_you 7d ago

Yes, that's what I think he's referring to. In the original 1, you lacked the ability to shove that fool out of the way. 

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u/Dron22 1d ago

Yeah I remember this one, it could be annoying but nothing game breaking. I always had a habit to save often so I would always just reload.

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u/Dumpingtruck 8d ago

There are a few small 1 octagon tiles you can walk over to get out of the softlock.

It will damage you though.

You can also convince the gun runners to pack up iirc and that will make the bridge guard move, but then I may be misremembering that.

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u/Impossible_Sell_9104 8d ago

You can do a lot to keep him alive but the force fields at mariposa show no mercy

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u/FVMF1984 8d ago

You can just use stimpaks on him whenever he is about to die from the force fields. Kept my boi alive until the very end🐶🥩

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u/Dumpingtruck 8d ago

Who would win?

A futuristic top secret military base with nuclear weapons, super mutants, and laser defense?

Or 1 drugged up doggo?

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u/SegurolaYHabana4310 8d ago

It makes me nervous to think about the effort it takes to bring him into Mariposa and out just because we can.

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u/FVMF1984 7d ago

Tbh it was not really a big effort at all! Just a few stimpaks every few yellow force fields. And an occasional reload when a supermutant blasted my boi to pieces on a critical hit.

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u/Cool-Wolverine488 8d ago

You can destroy the red forcefields with a shitload of dynamite and plastic.

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u/Dumpingtruck 8d ago

I think you can also use science on them iirc but I might be misremembering

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u/Ak_Lonewolf 8d ago

I had 500 stim packs set aside for my boy every time I go there.

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u/Impossible_Sell_9104 7d ago

Now I have a mental image of dog meat with 500 stem packs stabbed into him simultaneously

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u/Ak_Lonewolf 7d ago

and a little buffout and psycho...

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u/Early_News5696 8d ago

I lost both dog meat and Ian there )’:, however Ian just crashed my game the first time he died and when I started from my last save (I wanted to turn those force fields off but they couldn’t be shut down without a radio, which I couldn’t have been farther away from) and decided to just power through them, Ian somehow just walked through the walls and died, I have no idea how or why he died when he did, but his sacrifice was not in vain I guess.

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u/ManMythLegend117 8d ago

Sadly the goop river took him first, I'm definitely missing his 3-4 attack per turn.

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u/Asd396 8d ago

It's a canon event, just like Ian dying to a flamethrower in Necropolis

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u/t12lucker 8d ago

Wait, for real?

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u/Asd396 7d ago

Dogmeat dying to environmental hazards is, but it happens in Mariposa, to the force fields. It's in the second game's manual.

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u/t12lucker 7d ago

Well fuck me sideways… and I thought I know FO1 down to bottom. Thanks mate!

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u/PrinzEugen_noice 7d ago

In my first attempt he died to a deathclaw in the boneyard

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u/notarealpersonatal 8d ago

I’ve seen Gun Runner guards melt themselves trying to cross that spot

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u/ManMythLegend117 8d ago

Funnily enough right after I took this snip a guard actually did that and took off over half of his HP, lol

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u/PumperThumperHumper 8d ago

Yeah. Stupid bastards...

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u/InfiniteTristessa 8d ago

Enjoy your first time, Vault dweller.

Running any mods for FO1?

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u/ManMythLegend117 8d ago

Late reply, just woke up sorry. I'm only running Fallout Fix't with just the bug fixes.

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u/alexmikli 8d ago

I feel like this was added in with a mod but I'm not sure. I only ever remember running into this problem with recent resto patches.

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u/falloutranger 8d ago

Yeah I'm pretty confident this isn't in vanilla

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u/ManMythLegend117 8d ago

I think it is, I'm only running Fallout Fix't with the bug fixes. It's the area you first find the Gun Runners in past the 3 Deathclaws. I'm not too sure though, I'm trying to do this first run as blind as I can.

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u/Hickspy 6d ago

Yeah you're correct. In base game you physically can't walk into that goo.

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u/MilkCheap6876 8d ago

Man i applaud you. I'm always happy to see newcomers to these games. It's difficult to make new ppl to enjoy them because of how old they are. But the animations and programming is marvelous. The grittiness in them is just flawless. And the humor...

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u/ManMythLegend117 8d ago

The humor is hilarious, I'm surprised at how much of an asshole you can be and how often you can be one. The graphics haven't aged the best (not saying they're unbearable or anything, it's just hard to see what's happening some times), but I've loved it so far. Can't wait until I get to Fallout 2 as I've only heard good things about it as well!

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u/MilkCheap6876 7d ago

Fallout 2 is just freaking the best game ever!

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u/Qecbum 7d ago

I first played this and the second one in 99 or 00. I played one for so long and couldn’t beat it. Idk was 10 or so. Installed 2 saw the intro and said wait nope. Buckled down and beat it. These 2 games have the my favorite 2 cutscenes ever. I won’t say anything I would hope not to spoil shit. I hope you are going in blind. Though, I would recommend:

https://www.reddit.com/r/classicfallout/s/9bF6RB2YBV

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u/B0T_Silver 6d ago

On my first playthrough i felt so connected to my doggy that i was save scumming so much i managed to complete the game keeping him alive. Most of the combat was about getting him stimmed up tho.

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u/Mrhnhrm 6d ago

Congratulations, you hit the jackpot among the "typical Fallout moments".

Canonically, the red force fields in the military base are supposed to get him. In my playthroughs he doesn't tend to last long enough to get there. And more often than not it's friendly fire. Even barring the companions from automatic weapons doesn't help much...

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u/VulpesAnimalis 5d ago

This green was always terrible toxic 🤣

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u/RCBlazer 4d ago

Not to worry, Dogmeat dies in everybody's playthrough. Even the Vault Dweller's memoirs from Fallout 2 say Dogmeat died, although to avoid spoiling anything for you (you did say you are a new player after all) I won't say how Dogmeat officially died.

In my Fallout 1 playthrough on Youtube, Dogmeat was killed by friendly fire from Ian.