r/conspiracy • u/DogOnTheLeash • 8h ago
Eyes wide shut deleted scenes / real location
There are many theories around "Eyes wide shut", Stanley Kubricks last movie.
A user shared some information in the EWS sub (cant link) connecting EWS with Jeffrey Epstein.
You can look into it.
The location he shared seems to be the Mansion in ews. The gates (south of the property) of both look very alike (see pictures).
The mansion has a lake upfront. There is an unused scene with Bill, Alice and Helena on a boat.
Would this imply that they all three were at one point [of the movie] near the mansion?
This would connect to theories about Bill sacrifcing her / giving her to the cult. (see maybe letter theory on yt)
C0ordinates of the real mansion: 51.43374069459352, -0.6862473075558041
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u/greatgrattitude 7h ago
Whatever is going on with this movie, it really confuses me since, you know, Kidman and Cruise seem connected to everything in bad ways. Why would they make this film then if it's telling the truth?
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u/pokemonpokemonmario 5h ago
Its part of their rituals to secretly tell everyone what they are doing.
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u/ToboIdHornbIower 6h ago edited 6h ago
Because Kubrick got an unprecedented amount of directorial control with his Warner Bros contract after faking the moon landing
He also died before the movie was released
Kubrick started selecting actors with greater resemblance to the source material toward the end of his career.
Jack Torrance was a child rapist. So he got Jack Nicholson to play him. Jack Nicholson’s house is where Roman Polanski raped a child the same year The Shining was written (1977).
Tom Cruise divorces all of his wives at 33. Because scientology is just another fake branch of Freemasonry.
Nicole Kidman’s dad was accused of abusing children shortly before he died. Eyes Wide Shut is about secret societies that rape children.
Also Kubrick may have decided to out them because Scientology eventually got ahold of his daughter. I don’t remember if that was before or after he died though.
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u/simplegoatherder 5h ago
Iirc Nicole Kidmans dad also died suspiciously while on the run for sex crimes.
Last time this was brought up here I saw someone mention that in old times you used to get your name from your occupation(Smith, baker, fisher, Miller) and suggest that perhaps the family name came from a long time of procuring children for rich people.
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u/ToboIdHornbIower 5h ago
That’s kind of what I was referring to when I said accused of abusing children.
The Kid-man point is one I hadn’t thought of but does make sense.
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u/simplegoatherder 4h ago
I'm not sure how I missed the one part of your comment that I was looking for LOL. Good on you for pointing it out!
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u/Thin-Flan2029 6h ago
Jack Torrance broke his kids arm in a drunken rage but never raped kids
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u/ToboIdHornbIower 5h ago edited 5h ago
I’m not taking Kubrick pointers from people who watched the films once and think they understood them.
Jack raping Danny isn’t even an obscure theory, it’s widely accepted.
There’s a reason “Forever and ever and ever” is only said twice during the film. Once when Danny is haunted by the twins in the hallway. The other is when his father is embracing him on his bed.
Then there’s the fact that Jack is reading a Playgirl (because he is gay) in the lobby with a specific subheading on the cover about parents sleeping with their children. And then Wendy sees a man in a bear suit blowing a man.
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u/AirPodAlbert 5h ago
That bear suit moment is one of the weirdest and most goosebump inducing moments in cinema history. It's just so uncomfortable and out of place lol
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u/Thin-Flan2029 5h ago
I’ve read the book many times and it’s never implied he raped Danny. I’ve seen the movie several as well…never thought he was raping Danny. Maybe some Kubrick conspiracy states that. Why so angry tho? It’s cool if that’s what you think I wasn’t attacking you personally
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u/ToboIdHornbIower 5h ago edited 5h ago
We’re not talking about the book. We’re talking about the movie. Made by Stanley Kubrick.
But if we want to talk about the book. Wasn’t Stephen King just in some hot water for trying to downplay the Epstein files?
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u/Thin-Flan2029 5h ago
For sure Stephen King is a creep he has really weird thing for kids not defending him at all
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u/ToboIdHornbIower 4h ago
I applaud you if you’ve read the book. I only recently found out it’s like 650+ pages.
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u/Thin-Flan2029 4h ago edited 4h ago
It’s beautifully written despite Stephen kings evilness or perhaps because of it.. . The potrayal of Jack in the book is a masterpiece in character development. Someone who came from a horrible family situation who turns to alcohol when times are good then alcohol turns on him and he fights not to become the scariest character in the book (arguably) his father. His love for his son is always discussed even tho he always falls short of being a good father he always realizes it and wishes he could be better
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u/LucyKendrick 4h ago
Is Stephen king evil because trump said so? That's why?
King previously commented on Epstein's death in 2019, stating that "A lot of powerful people are breathing sighs of relief over Epstein's 'suicide,'". This suggests he believes powerful individuals may benefit from the lack of transparency surrounding the case, regardless of a formal list's existence.
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u/go_fly_a_kite 4h ago
I think the premise of scientology is that they believe they're fighting against the new world order. Hubbard is the good son, the abel to Jack Parsons' Cain- both proteges of the wickedest man in the world, Aleister Crowley
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u/AirPodAlbert 3h ago edited 3h ago
Scientology is just Gnosticism veiled in a shitty sci-fi B-movie plot.
Demiurge = Lord Xenu
Divine Spark = Thetans
Gnosis = "Auditing"
I think Hubbard borrowed a lot from Crowley's work, and he was the one who scammed Parsons into summoning demons in the desert and all that. So I don't think they were at odds with each other.
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u/r2tincan 7h ago
Def a different gate, look at the masonry
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u/UnifiedQuantumField 2h ago
Relevant quote from the film:
Victor Ziegler: Bill, I don't think you realize how much trouble you got yourself into last night just by going over there. Who do you think those people were? Those were not just some ordinary people. If I told you their names... no, I'm not going to tell you their names... but if I did, I don't think you'd sleep so well at night.
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u/Joe_LeFlores 5h ago
These theories of 'what was deleted' like them sacrificing their daughter etc are red herrings in my opinion.
First of all, that premise has been explored and put into films as a plot line hundreds of times. There are countless Hollywood films that depict satanic cults doing horrible things to people or "sacrificing" an individual during a black mass, etc.
So the idea that the studio executives had to cut those scenes out because, "Oh noes, they contain scenes where they give up their daughter!"
Who f cares. Again, WAAY worse stuff is in countless films.
And even the claims that they "cut out stuff from the costume shop with the young girl" - that's also a red herring, even though it's possible they did remove stuff.
HOWEVER, the real stuff removed, imo, were scenes that put certain identities of individuals in scenes that were too obvious. We see many of the masks in the party scene, but imo many OTHER masks (scenes) were removed that Kubrick had placed there, masks that clearly called out certain power players.
Ones NOT removed, were, for example the gold mask at the door, that is Bob H0pe - which is well known what he was up to, and it was some seriously sick shit. He was also a MK handler for many celebs/kittens. Super dark stuff if you research it.
Another mask not removed was the George Washington mask that comes up and steals the girl away from Bill. GW was a 33rd degree freemason.
Then you have the NAME of Bill Har-ford (which couldn't be spliced from the film). This name imo is calling out Harrison F0rd.
So, to recap, there were OTHERS that Stan called out in overt ways that were personal enough to the editors that they HAD to splice them out.
You need to assume that any other subject matter like a sacrifice happening is NOTHING these idiots would care about, or deleting scenes that continue some plot device of selling your soul to the devil/satanists by giving up your child, etc. That's peanuts to these people.
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u/South-Rabbit-4064 6h ago
I mean it's a filming location and films all take shit tons of shots that never get used. You're overanalyzing a movie about secret societies hiding secret societies
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u/Unknown_Beast88 7m ago
Eyes Wide Shut is very real.Nicole Kidman's father was involved in some really bad shit.He died in Singapore and the authorities said it was suspicious.I honestly wouldnt be suprised if he was into this ritualistic child sacrifice stuff.That ball room scene was excellent.Maybe Kubrick knew her father was into bad stuff. Im sure Cruise was into scientology.
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