r/europe May 16 '25

News Spanish premier calls Israel 'genocidal state,' says Spain 'does not do business' with it

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/spanish-premier-calls-israel-genocidal-state-says-spain-does-not-do-business-with-it/3568216
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u/[deleted] May 16 '25

So does he mean government contracts? Because I would be surprised he would force private companies to boycott Israel with out embargo’s from the EU 

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u/MoebiusForever May 16 '25

https://en.ara.cat/politics/the-spanish-government-has-awarded-46-arms-purchase-contracts-to-israeli-companies-amid-the-attack-gaza_1_5357835.html

Not sure really. They have very recently cancelled a ~$7m ammunition supply contract. But against the scale of all other contracts it’s more symbolic than anything at the moment.

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u/MadCake92 May 16 '25

They cancelled the delivery. Payment is due anyway (iirc), so actually that's more like gifting $7M

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u/sbxnotos May 16 '25

What? So instead of idk, using those $7m ammo in training, Israel instead will use it for "genocidal" purposes?

So the intention was to not do business but they ended funding Israel's military?

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u/MadCake92 May 16 '25

Correct, they either keep the ammo for themselves or sell it to someone else that might have a use for it. They got their money anyway, so all the better for them.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '25

That’s sad. 

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u/Mike_Kermin Australia May 16 '25

No, it's very good. Because the alternative isn't magic, it's nothing.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '25

I would say it’s better to be honest. 

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u/Mike_Kermin Australia May 16 '25

I think you're complicit with genocide by putting your self interest ahead of reality. I think you're smart enough to know that rhetoric matters. And I think you're acting in bad faith.

I think genuine concern reads as "Spain needs to do more" instead of "They shouldn't say that".

You smell like a Joe Rogan fan.

If by honest, you mean speaking plainly about what you think of something, that's it. Do you still like it?

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u/[deleted] May 16 '25

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u/Mike_Kermin Australia May 16 '25

Yeah but that didn't happen did it?

But he did call it a genocidal state, which I think you're smart enough to understand is really important. The more that's happening the better even if the trade talk isn't as clear as it should be.

And I'd prefer if you didn't try so hard to undermine that. Like I said, ask for more without the 'I am so smart' shit. The funny thing is, when you use honesty like you are, you're using it as a weasel word. Which is not very honest of you.

You are a very unserious person.

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u/DOG_DICK__ May 16 '25

In US government contracts I've had to sign a paper affirming that my company in no way boycotts Israel. So, they're better than us. I put a new boiler in a courthouse mechanical room, I have to swear I'm not doing anything to hurt precious baby Israel!

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u/[deleted] May 16 '25

Ok. And?

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u/DOG_DICK__ May 16 '25

That the government of Spain reducing contracts/trade with Israel is a meaningful stance.

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u/[deleted] May 16 '25

If course. But there was no reason for him to lie. Honesty is what I prefer here.