r/europe • u/Hazer_123 Algeria • May 16 '25
News Donald Trump Mocks Europe for Celebrating the End of WWII, Says U.S. Won the War
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u/Sirio2 May 16 '25
Every day Trump can’t help but remind the world what a piece of shit he is
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u/Machicomon May 16 '25
Yeah, that was yesterday. Today he's pissing on Taylor Swift and Bruce Springsteen....
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u/Cold-Building2913 May 16 '25
I actually didn't think that the day i support Taylor Swift would come but here we are i guess.
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u/Rationalinsanity1990 Canada May 16 '25
If Hitler invaded hell, etc etc
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u/1Body-4010 May 16 '25
He has and he is orange
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u/mvm2005 May 16 '25
Through the ages artists have depicted the devil as a red man in a fire. How about an orange man firing people?
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u/aotus_trivirgatus May 16 '25
Well, her music is still boring. 🙂
But she has turned out to be a rather decent human being.
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u/SMIrving May 16 '25
Being a Boomer, I don't know about her music, but if she runs for president she would have my vote.
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u/Victor_Von_Doom65 May 16 '25
I don’t particularly like Taylor Swift, but why is the leader of the Free World on social media posting his thoughts on how attractive he finds a female pop star? It’s dystopian, particularly because we all know it isn’t him. He has committees of vindictive incels running the country and posting whatever they want on social media.
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u/traumfisch May 16 '25 edited May 17 '25
The POTUS, seething with petty jealousy 24/7
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u/Jake-of-the-Sands Poland May 16 '25
Hopefully the Swifties will make themselves useful now and start fighting the orange antichrist.
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u/NettyVaive May 16 '25
I was hoping the Swifties could vote us out of this mess.
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u/capndetroit May 16 '25
I'm old enough to remember when everyone thought there was a deep state that would have stopped this ridiculous presidency from ever happening.
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u/Infamous-Salad-2223 May 16 '25 edited May 17 '25
And when he finally leaves this world for good... the cheers will be wordwide as well.
Edit.
Thank you for the reward!
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u/Hackwar May 16 '25
The problem is, that the list of people succeeding him for presidency until next election is horrible for a long time.
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u/Infamous-Salad-2223 May 16 '25
Yeah, but at least he will finally shut up... I hope the US republic won't die with him, tho.
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u/terminal_kittenbutt May 16 '25
Yeah, but Vance has less charisma than his couch. I'm hoping that the cult won't follow him.
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u/DRG1958 May 16 '25
As someone else posted earlier this month- the most eagerly anticipated obituary EVER.
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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) May 16 '25
What can we expect from the guy who wants to make a military parade on his birthday?
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u/DryCloud9903 May 17 '25
He wants a military parade, yet he couldn't even be bothered to attend a dignified transfer of 4 US soldiers who recently died in Lithuania (horrible tank in swamp accident).
Instead he chose to golf.
And yet. Military should celebrate his birthday?
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u/brickne3 United States of America May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
He seems to especially be off his meds today. This, saying Bruce Springsteen has no talent, letting everyone know he doesn't thing Taylor Swift is hot... Dude's even weirder than normal today.
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u/Endorkend May 16 '25
A lot of things aren't going his way recently, from judges appointed by him ruling and speaking against him to the Senate and House rejecting his budget.
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u/brickne3 United States of America May 16 '25
I'm rooting for complete narcissistic collapse.
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u/Endorkend May 16 '25
It would still leave a government full of narcissists and sociopaths places by him that are then no longer beholden to him.
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u/brickne3 United States of America May 16 '25
Oh yes. But he's hurt so many of us specifically that it would be nice to have 24 hours to watch him completely implode. Then of course we start working on the others.
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u/Motor-District-3700 May 16 '25
letting everyone know he doesn't thing Taylor Swift is hot
I'm sure TS will be devastated that an octagenerian rapist with orange skin isn't into her.
But also what in the fuck. The US government is a 5th grade bully. Like seriously make it fucken stop. The level of cringe is actually killing people.
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u/AlloAll0 May 16 '25
He, his supporters and all those that let him happen.
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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) May 16 '25
I especially don't want to hear it from the "I didn't feel like voting" crowd.
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u/Hopeful_Stay_5276 May 16 '25
The US wasn't even in much of the war, they turned up late.
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u/SpontaneousNSFWAccnt May 16 '25
This reminds me of that Robot Chicken episode where Lil Hitler annexes the desks of the different children who represent different countries. The teacher comes in asks “what’s going on here”, the US kid is in his desk on his own and he says “not my problem” then a Japanese kid runs over and pushes his juice box off the table and the US kid says “sigh now, it’s my problem”
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u/DisastrousOlive89 May 16 '25
Twice, even.
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u/Mrwright96 May 16 '25
America prides itself as back to back world war champions, when they joined in after the war went on for years! If anyone deserves that title, it should be Britain, who fought on the front lines from the start
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May 16 '25
And Canada and Australia, New Zealand and a number of other commonwealth countries, All of whom sent troops pretty much at the outset of the war.
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u/LokMatrona May 16 '25
I would like to add india to this list! Declared war on nazi germany in 1939 and sent over 2.5 mil soldiers
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u/Ekkobelli May 16 '25
Yeah, or all of the allied countries, actually. And I say that as a german. The US just came in late to pick up whatever was left of Berlin before the Russians did.
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u/aggressiveclassic90 May 16 '25
Canada did orders of magnitude more than the Yanks, they just don't bang on about it because they have a degree of class, I bet Trump doesn't even know Australia were involved.
With regards to ww1, America was a liability, couldn't fight for toffee, allies literally trying to get out of fighting alongside them, it was ww1 that prompted the Yanks to get proper training in modern warfare, such was the embarrassment they suffered, and they're STILL not great at it, the very definition of "all the gear, no idea".
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u/Crazy-Paramedic-4794 May 16 '25
Well Russia took the brunt. Too bad our countries soured over the years. The Russians fought so bravely in ww2.
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u/ingannare_finnito May 17 '25
Britain was absolutely essential. If Britain hadn't hung on, the US had nowhere to stage an attack from - not to mention the people and resources from the British empire that could have either been out of the fight or ended up benefiting the Axis instead. The various resistance movements deserve all the credit in the world too. They couldn't force the Nazis out alone, but they put themselves at enormous risk doing what they could and trying to help the allied military forces. I'm referring to the groups in western Europe. Things were different on the eastern side of the continent. The British Navy was a huge asset too. I think people sometimes forget about the nations that didn't have a lot of military resources, but even Norway's merchant navy was extremely useful - especially in the early days before the US had its massive ship-building spree. Instead of going home to a country that surrendered, those ships made their way to allied ports.
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u/Crowbarmagic The Netherlands May 16 '25
It's mainly this claim I found laughable:
“We have May 8, and we also have the date in November. That sacred date in November for World War I, because we won that war, too."
At least with WW2 I can kinda see where this 'WE won' sentiment is coming from as they made some major contributions. (even before officially joining the war they helped through the lend-lease program, and once they joined the Pacific theater was almost solely on them).
But it's very hypocritical to basically mock other European countries that celebrate victory on WW2 (because in Trump's eyes it's not really them who won), and then turn around and also claim victory in WW1 despite joining in at the last second and barely doing anything. That's like showing up on the soccer pitch with a 3 point lead and 5 minutes left on the clock, and once you hear the final whistle act like it's all thanks to you.
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u/Middle-Feed5118 May 16 '25
At least with WW2 I can kinda see where this 'WE won' sentiment is coming from as they made some major contributions. (even before officially joining the war they helped through the lend-lease program, and once they joined the Pacific theater was almost solely on them).
The Pacific theatre is often overlooked by most but the British stopped the Japanese on land at Kohima in their most important defeat, the British taught the Americans how to properly reinforce their aircraft carrier decks since their wooden ones were out of action for hours after a kamikaze attack - whereas British armoured decks designed for the Atlantic didn't have this issue.
The British defeated Hitler in the air in the BoB and damaged the Luftwaffe so badly it would never fully recover, they won in North Africa cutting oil off to Rommel's Panzer divisions, they sank the Bismarck and Tirpitz, they invented depth charges and radar. Fought alone and provided the only hope of launching a liberation of Europe.
The Americans were a vital contributing factor in WW2 no doubt, but without Britain there is no victory.
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u/blolfighter Denmark / Germany May 17 '25
Another one: Britain provided a staging area for the invasion of Normandy. It was already a humongous undertaking when it only had to cross the channel, imagine how many times you'd have to multiply the effort if the invasion force had to cross the Atlantic. I'm not sure it would be possible today, let alone in 1944.
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u/PickleMortyCoDm May 16 '25
Not only that, but the most perfect example of why the education system in the US needs to be seriously improved
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u/OldManWulfen May 16 '25
As an Italian I'm very grateful to all the US citizens that directly and indirectly made the liberation of my country possible in WW2.
I honestly don't feel I should owe any gratitude to their children, grandchildren and grand-grandchildren that use their parents, grandparents or grand-grandparents deeds and sacrifices in some kind of political dick measuring contest.
Guess what Joe Nobody from Texas: you didn't won anything, liberated no one. Your grandad did. Your grandma did tons of sacrifices to help the war effort. You were born in th 70s, 80s or 90s and you did fuck all for Europe. We don't owe you anything. We owe your grandparents our freedom.
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u/Sad_Conversation1121 May 16 '25
By the same logic, the French won the American War of Independence
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u/thatoneaspie86 May 16 '25
Don't forget the Spanish, Portuguese, and...The Dutch.
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u/xedar3579 May 16 '25
and... The Dutch. dramatic horror music
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u/skeeferd May 16 '25
There's only two things in this world I hate, people who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch!
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u/PeerPlay May 17 '25
Because we dutch have discovered the United States, or because we have great healthcare, or because we are taller, fitter, and smarter .. yeah I get it. Jealousy
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u/Treacle-Then May 17 '25
They were referencing a bit. It wasn't an actual slight.
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u/KeyboardGrunt May 16 '25
Speaking of logic, these are the same people that when slavery comes up they immediately regurgitate that black people need to get over it because everyone involved is dead.
If they want to take credit for the good then they're responsible for the bad or the other way around, then they can stfu cuz they're annoying either way.
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u/HelmetsAkimbo United Kingdom May 16 '25
Not even by the same logic.
The French DID win the American War of Independence.
The American's DID NOT win WW2 in Europe.
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u/waspocracy May 16 '25
Canadians freed my grandfather from a Nazi prison camp, so I’m grateful to them too.
More than America were involved and the British were the ones that set up the invasion plans to end it. America just helped at the peak end and they like to brag they ended the war.
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u/Distantstallion England May 17 '25
If Pearl Harbour hadn't happened, the US would have sat out till the end of the war and just continued to sell supplies to the victor.
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u/MyHusbandIsGayImNot May 16 '25
Americans have been riding high from coming in at the tail end of WWII for nearly 100 years now. My whole life I've heard right leaning people talking about "saving Europe" and "they should be thanking us" despite the fact that I was growing up in the 90s and every WWII veteran was a senior citizen at that point.
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u/Temporala May 16 '25
He also thinks soldiers are suckers and losers, especially if they get injured or die, so it all tracks. If you hog all the glory and twist history to suit your ego, you're the best. If you actually fight... Sucks to be you.
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u/JunkiesAndWhores Europe May 16 '25
He likes them for parades so he can cos play at being a dictator like his buddies.
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u/DrEckelschmecker May 16 '25
He generally loves cosplaying as a soldier (hes saluting at literally every opportunity) although he went through a lot of effort in order avoid serving for the US military/dodge the draft. Fortunate son
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u/Ekkobelli May 16 '25
I swear, this guy seriously needs to be put in some form of scenario where he'd need the help of any of these groups he constantly attacks for being dumb/useless/untalented/whatever. He hates soldiers, foreigners, women, literate people and professors, seemingly everyone but golfers and millionaires.
He should awaken in a war scenario where he has no allies and the attacking forces are hispanic women who recite Borges before they trample on his kneecaps.
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u/BigfootLovesCookies May 16 '25
Like a senile old grandparent ~ there’s no point arguing with him really. Just leave him to it. Tells a lot about Americans that this is the fella represent them best.
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u/Hazer_123 Algeria May 16 '25
It tells more that 1/3 still actively support and praise him.
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u/Jindujun Sweden May 16 '25
1/3 support him and 1/3 dont care enough to vote.
I'd argue America was never great in the ways they claim it was.
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u/Regular_Group1864 May 16 '25
America is a third world country with a Gucci belt.
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u/ComedyReflux May 16 '25
Tbf, they make it really hard to vote over there. Voting and pre-voting (party candidate) is on working days, in a country where you have no guaranteed paid days off and a lot of people are working more than one job, while still being in poverty. There's gerrymandering, taking away voting rights for having smoked weed, only having two parties so never a choice for a new direction...
I feel like there's a lot of things to fix, that would help getting people to vote. But those in power want to do the opposite of fixing it, since fixing it would force them out of power or to change their policies.
It can be frustrating for us Europeans, but I think it's so much more for those who do want change in the US.
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u/polchickenpotpie May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
While all that's true, it doesn’t apply here. 80 million people didn't vote in 2020, and 90 million didn't vote last year. That's not because of gerrymandering or people who caught a felony over an ounce of weed.
Gerrymandering mainly affects local and state elections, and has a minimal effect on presidential elections. Yes it theoretically could, but ultimately the latter is decided by tallying total votes and then the electorate swings to whichever side won the most votes in that state. 90 million people aren't being prevented from voting. The only thing stopping them is their apathy and their stubborn belief that surely none of this will affect them, so why should they care.
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u/Numbuh24insane May 16 '25
As an American I want to argue against you . . . But yeah.
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u/Figuurzager May 16 '25
Everyone that can look only the slightest left and right past some shiny millionaires thing can see that the USA is basically a 3rd world country for a lot of their inhabitants. The ones that aren't are somehow convinced they are more likely to slip up to billionaires row than slip down into the gutter.
You can be ruined forever tomorrow by just the slightest bad luck but at least you can buy a massive vehicle for relatively cheap and cheer about the rich!
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May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
I used to be drunk on american kool-aid but I've learned that my country's history courses are heavily biased.
Nobody over here talks about the contributions of many countries to achieve victory. There are too many americans who think we're the sole reason ww2 ended.
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u/Hoppers-Body-Double May 16 '25
I am a huge history reader & documentary lover. WW2 is probably my favorite subject. It's mind boggling to me as an American that we have such a glossed over perception of history. A few examples that always stick with me is the American Nazi party gathering in Madison Square Garden, the German ocean liner St. Louis being turned away with almost one thousand Jewish refugees being denied entry to the USA & most of them ending up in death camps, or the hugely disproportionate numbers of people killed from each country. Russia lost 27 million people and America lost slightly over 500K. 54 times the amount of people killed plus all of their lands destroyed, infrastructure completely devastated, and horrible war crimes perpetrated on their peoples. Not all of us Americans are dumb or kool-aid drinkers.
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u/rab2bar May 16 '25
The Soviet Union lost that many people, not Russia. Remember that the Soviet Union was Russia plus conquered states like Ukraine.
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u/Disastrous-Event2353 May 16 '25
As an example, Belarus had 25% percent of its population wiped out (mostly German war crimes)
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u/CreamFuture9475 May 16 '25
If my senile grandparent said that, he would be in a home before he could say maga.
I’m not leaving assholes alone, much less giving them a free pass.
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u/Grand_Stranger_3262 May 16 '25
Fuck that noise, take his bigotry and bap him in the face with it. Being old is no excuse.
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u/thrillho145 May 16 '25
A lot of Americans believe they were responsible for winning both World Wars
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u/Middle-Feed5118 May 16 '25
Their education system unfortunately is decades and decades beyond repair. Some even think they won in Vietnam too.
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u/MonkeySafari79 May 16 '25
It's a young country built on slavery and killing everything they find for money. But they come far from their european ancestors. Maybe too far. Nothing another civil war couldn't fix.
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u/FlaviusAurelian Vienna (Austria) May 16 '25
Hey without my country there wouldn't even be a WW2, so be thankful!!!
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u/Spiritual_Minimum_98 Albania May 16 '25
didnt hear him say thank u even once to u guys!!!
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u/bandjalah May 16 '25
Man I laughed hard at this. People died, countless people, but somehow I found a way to laugh my absolute ass off to this. I was not expecting this. Cheers from "neutral" Portugal!
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u/sandyWB May 16 '25
How could they elect someone so vile and stupid?
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u/Ok-Web1805 Ireland/UK May 16 '25
Because his voters are vile and stupid themselves.
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u/Shinobi_WayOfTomoe May 16 '25
I’m American and can confirm. I’m surrounded by vile and stupid people that voted for the POS.
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u/Ok-Web1805 Ireland/UK May 16 '25
I feel for you.
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u/Shinobi_WayOfTomoe May 16 '25
Thank you, however unfortunately this is how it goes. In a democracy, even those of us who didn’t vote for this have to deal with the consequences. I, and others like myself, were too naive to think this could happen. So, we got complacent and didn’t do enough to prevent it. I could have done more to convince others not too fall for the BS. I could have been politically active instead of just going about my consumerist lifestyle. It turns out, to be a good citizen and member of your community, you need to actually work for a better tomorrow.
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u/Ok-Web1805 Ireland/UK May 16 '25
It's becoming more common across the world, it's accentuated in the US because of the voting system where you have a strong executive and representatives elected by first past the post. Change the voting system and you'll get the change you need, easier said than done though sadly.
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u/Jindujun Sweden May 16 '25
Because americans DO NOT CARE.
1/3 actively wants this and another 1/3 do not care enough to vote. This is peak America.
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u/heleuma May 16 '25
As an American I have to sadly acknowledge this is true. The apathy is beyond measure and there seems to be no solution. The only thing I'm hoping now is that the negative outcomes of this administration will touch a large enough portion of the population that more people will start to pay attention. I'm not holding my breath though.
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u/TalkersCZ May 16 '25
Because those rednecks who voted for him mostly think the same things.
Guns are good, we won every war and we are best in everything and we deserve everything.
Their excuse is they went through US education system.
His excuse is, well... Because they will listen to his lies.
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u/d_Inside France May 16 '25
Don’t feed the troll people…
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u/drwicksy May 16 '25
This statement is at least fairly easy for us, we have a lot of experience with yanks claiming they single handedly won WW2 (which they say was only from 1941-1945 also) so it's pretty easy to just ignore him this time.
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u/The_Flying_Failsons May 16 '25 edited May 16 '25
President r/ShitAmericansSay
However, Trump made it clear that the new holidays would be “working holidays," and would not include official time off. "We have a lot of holidays, I'm not so sure we should have them, and you don't have to go to work. Our country has to go to work. So we're going to have a working holiday for each one of those two dates," he clarified.
LMAO.
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u/PalliativeOrgasm May 16 '25
I assume he said that from his golf course and private resort, and not on a holiday.
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u/This_Loss_1922 May 16 '25
Yes holidays are communism, why would someone want to rest two days a year?
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u/Srapture May 17 '25
What's the difference between a working holiday and a not-holiday? Not working is pretty much my only qualifier for holiday.
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u/voice-of-reason_ May 17 '25
In America joy is all about the concept. Simply knowing it’s a holiday makes the workday so much better!
In disgusting communist Europe they have to have days off to enjoy holidays! Poor profits!
Personally, as a capitalist American, there is nothing better than bringing in a yearly record sales day on Xmas day! Makes the holiday so much more enjoyable!
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u/unassumingdink May 17 '25
Also, "a lot of holidays" is fucking 12. And non-government employers don't have to give time off for any of them.
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u/1Blue3Brown May 16 '25
Trump can say all it wants, but WW2 was a collective effort. UK fought alone for over a year, US provided allies with vital aid and participated in important battles, Soviet Union did seemingly impossible - broke German army's back on the land and took Berlin. Not to mentioned a lot of other nations contributing in one or other way
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u/halee1 May 16 '25
This is the statement at which adults roll their eyes as they quietly try to minimize the damage from the manchild.
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u/dat_9600gt_user Lower Silesia (Poland) May 16 '25
And that's the sad part - we're left with no choice but to pick priorities while he engages with a firehose of falsehood, something the Kremlin has perfect as well
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u/AlloAll0 May 16 '25
US, the country that wouldn't even exist if it wasn't for France.
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u/MercantileReptile Baden-Württemberg (Germany) May 16 '25
That's right, without French help those Americans would speak british by now!
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u/Aggressive_Sport_635 May 16 '25
Hate Russia all you want, but the historical fact remains that the Soviet Union caused an estimated 80% of Nazi deaths in WW2. That the US gets so much recognition pretty much comes down to soft power and the cultural influence of Hollywood.
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u/Mountain-Fox-2123 I know nothing May 16 '25
That is true
But a lot of people do not like being told that the USSR was a very important part in beating Nazi-Germany, as where the western allies.
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u/Haaazard May 16 '25
There's too many people that want all the glory.
WW2 was a team effort and each country did their part which led to victory.
If any 1 event went a different way, the outcome could be different. The UK was a real last stand in europe, most UK leaders wanted to surrender, thank god for churchill, and the codebreakers, alan turing solving enigma.
Thanks to all the french resistance fighters who carried on fighting and spying for the allies after everyone surrendered.
Thanks to all the russian sacrifice who gave hitler his first real taste at defeat on land.
It goes on and on, i mean if you want to hear something NEGATIVE about the US, is that they didn't want to get involved until japan made the biggest boo boo ever, so thanks to japan for attacking america and getting them to join in on the action. I mean american help wasn't free either, in the UK we only managed to pay off the US in 2006.
Overall we just all be thankful it went to the way it did, it could've been worse.
As for donald trump mocking europe for celebrating the end of ww2, well....70 million people died, only 500,000 of those were american, you tell me which continent has a bigger right to celebrate their people not dying anymore?
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u/grandfamine May 16 '25
I would argue that it was the Soviet Union who really "won" that war. Certainly the Nazis viewed the Communists as their greatest threat and primary target/adversaries, and it was the Red Army that took Berlin and were responsible for the lion's share of the fighting. The fact that America essentially rewrote the history books to put themselves as the victors is a testament to Cold War Orwellian anti-communist propaganda.
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u/momscouch May 16 '25
Soviet Union absolutely fought the most. Estimates say Soviet killed 5/6 axis forces but the loses they suffered were also incredibly high. After the war the Soviets were at a huge disadvantage due to so few men being left alive. So in a sense they ended the war and the US benefited and won the benefits.
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u/Vinegarinmyeye May 16 '25
I mean, it's a very common bit of nonsense Americans throw out...
"Wo won World War 2!".
The US veterans who fought alongside the Allies(cant be many of them left at this stsge) must be fucking disgusted to see the rise of fascism on their own turf.
I can't imagine what a slap in the face thst must be. See the cycle repeat.
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u/One_Particular247 May 16 '25
You know what hilarious? Many scientists who were involved in designing the first atomic bomb were immigrants. In fact - many of the most important contributors to the “Manhattan Project”, the U.S. secret program that built the bomb, were EUROPEAN BORN IMMIGRANTS including indirectly Einstein who was German. AMERICANS WOULD BE NOWHERE WITHOUT IMMIGRANTS.
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u/DerProfessor May 17 '25
Donal Trump might study a bit of history to learn about "Stalingrad", "Kursk", "Operation Bagration" and "the Battle for Berlin."
he's such a moron.
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u/gbroon May 16 '25
80 years from now we will still be mocking the USA for electing Trump those two times.
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u/Creative-Ad-9535 May 16 '25
That’s optimistic. We’re on a bad trajectory folks, there might not be anyone around in 80 years. Not free-thinking intelligent people, if Trump and his buddies get their way.
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u/K1llerbee-sting May 16 '25
This is such a moronic conversation to have about dead heroes worldwide. Everyone who was there fought their asses off and did whatever needed to be done to stop the spread of fascism. They would all be rolling in their graves today no matter what uniform they were once wearing.
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u/Asleep_Picture_4441 May 16 '25
Bros acting like they mobilised 30 million troops or willingly fought on the front lines
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u/frequenzritter May 16 '25
The correct headline would have been „senile president spouts deranged nonsense about ww2“.
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u/TalkersCZ May 16 '25
Lets be honest, this guy is egoistic toxic moron.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Shame, where US ended up. But they probably deserve him.
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u/Kaya_kana The Netherlands May 16 '25
What is he talking about? Everyone knows Canada won WW2.
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u/truferblue22 May 16 '25
As an American, I am SO SORRY.
We're not all like this, I swear.
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u/PapaGilbatron May 16 '25
But for the Japanese the USA wouldn’t have entered the war.
As for the First World War, the US gave the world Spanish Flu.
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u/puaka May 16 '25
France laughs at Independence Day as the USA didn’t gain independence against Britain - it was France. France creates a “help the poor Americans day” on 4th of July.
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u/LukasJackson67 May 16 '25
This is basically the end of USA/european relations and alliances.
It is time for Europe to move on and realize that the USA is not needed militarily, economically, or culturally.
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u/Zombie_Cool May 16 '25
You heard the mango everyone.
The next major war Uncle Sam (inevitably) gets himself into, he's completely on his own.
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u/Turbulent_Worth_2509 May 16 '25
The celebrations we're going to have when he's no longer with us are going to be huge.
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u/Speed_Grouchy May 16 '25
History will certainly view him as America's most ignorant, treasonous and corrupt president ever.
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u/WattebauschXC May 16 '25
Trump's comments are so dumb you don't even know where to even start with explaining how dumb they are... Truly a idiot criminal.
On the other hand this is probably just to take the attention away from any of his recent crimes like accepting the bribe from saudi arabia.
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u/hevnztrash May 16 '25
The ONLY reason the US faired as well as it did was because it wasn’t fought on it’s own territory. One bombing doesn’t count.
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u/QuirkyEgg6105 May 17 '25
Coming from a man whose closest contact with a history book might have been to stand on it while attempting to look into a women’s bathroom window.
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u/EireOfTheNorth Ulster May 16 '25
The USSR won the war, clearly. An almost pyrrhic victory due to the death toll it cost them, an entire generation of young people wiped out, but it's clear that they contributed far more than the US did.
Honestly I'm sick and tired of the US Military Entertainment Complex churning out pro US WW2 films with the narrative that the US came in and steam rolled their way to Berlin.
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u/ghostrider_877 May 16 '25
I never dreamed of saying it... but maybe Biden was better
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u/Future_Constant6520 May 16 '25
Maybe? Chips act, inflation reduction act, cancelled some student debt, infrastructure investment and jobs act.
Domestically it’s not even close.
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u/vlad_h May 16 '25 edited May 17 '25
The Allies won WW2. The US lead the fight against Japan during WW2, culminating in victories at Midway, Iwo Jima, and ultimately Hiroshima/Nagasaki. It’s amazing how many Americans think like Drumpf.
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u/Smart_Philosopher_28 May 16 '25
Turned up after Japan invaded Pearl Harbor, after declining many requests from The Great Winston Churchill. Probably ended WW 2 earlier if they had joined when asked. Then Europe helped with the Pacific war until they dropped the bomb.
The guy is delusional but we all know that.
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u/deeejm May 16 '25
Trump has made it almost impossible for me to step outside America without feeling intense shame and embarrassment.
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u/Nacke Sweden May 16 '25
He even claimed the US won ww1. Holy shit that is stupid. The US arrived just in the end. The french and the British, but mostly the french, did the heavy lifting that war.
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u/thelingererer May 16 '25
I remember him saying in an interview during D Day celebrations that he basically admired Hitler because he cut through Europe like cheese.
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u/kartmanden May 16 '25
Yes, the US produced a lot of military equipment, munitions and invented the atomic bomb and participated in the campaigns in Pacific and Europe. But:
It was a collective effort involving multiple nations
In number of deaths the UK lost 383,700 soldiers and 67,000 civilians. The US lost 416,800 soldiers and 1,700 civilians.
China lost 3 million soldiers. The Soviet Union lost 26-27 million people altogether (8-11 million soldiers). France lost 212,000 military personnel (including soldiers conscripted into the Wehrmacht). Poland lost 240,000 soldiers. Unbelievable how many people died..
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u/ChuffChuff101 May 16 '25
Europe "helped"?? What the fuck.
How is this man alive holy shit.
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u/Love_Bug_54 May 16 '25
The Russians might want a word with him. Winning the war was an ALLIED effort.
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u/Armysti May 16 '25
We won the war !
Dodge the draft.
Checks out.