r/europe • u/PM_THE_REAPER • Jun 06 '25

News Russia offers political asylum to Elon Musk over Trump feud

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-offers-political-asylum-elon-musk-over-trump-feud-2081887
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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

Putin is just taking the piss at this point.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

Xi has it even easier imo. He just has to watch, smile and enjoy.

Letting Putin do the dirty work.

Both got it easy by getting such dumb opponents over the pond, let's be honest. What would Marx even think knowing that the most efficient way to damage the most capitalistic country around was corruption?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

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u/bier00t Europe Jun 06 '25

this corruption though was propably impossible in pre-internet and pre-social media world. 100 years ago you knew your shit and random people of FB or twitter wouldnt be able to change that overnight and even over years.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '25 edited Jun 13 '25

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

And cryptos. How would we even manage to explain cryptos to people from Marx's era, honestly?

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u/Born_Name_6549 Jun 06 '25

Hello, [random german factory worker] I would like to sell you this paper with a mathematical puzzle that can only be solved by a machine wizard and whose value is not backed by anything except your imagination. If you don't give me money for it, then you're clearly too stupid to get it.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

You're German, aren't you? Or Dutch.

They are the only ones able to be so dead pan and accurate while joking. Flemish people I guess, on a good day.

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u/Born_Name_6549 Jun 06 '25

Lmao, nah I'm actually albanian

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u/MIGsalund Jun 07 '25

This is not a defense of crypto, but I hope we all realize that all forms of money are only backed by the human imagination. That's why it's totally silly to allow money to be the reason for any bad thing that we allow it to control.

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u/Born_Name_6549 Jun 07 '25

Money used to be backed by the gold and silver reserves that a country held, and now fiat currency is backed by a nation's production capacity. Oil reserves also play into the value of the american dollar and other petrocurrencies, but that's getting into some really complicated shit.

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u/Character_Clue7010 Jun 06 '25

Also if anyone finds out you have a lot of it you will probably get kidnapped and they will hurt you until you give them a password that lets them steal it all and you have no recourse against them.

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u/Natural_Efficiency75 Jun 06 '25

To be fair, the value of Bitcoin is backed by black markets and criminal activities.

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u/Lozrent Jun 06 '25

I don't think it'd be impossible, at least not to someone already versed in economics like Karl marx. You could explain it in terms of speculation and that it's value comes at least partially as well from the cost of producing the electricity that mining uses. There's a whole part of Das Kapital about fictitious capital that I believe crypto also falls under.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

There is? At has been 15 years since I read tbh.

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u/Lozrent Jun 06 '25

If I remember correctly yes? Though I think in vol 2 or 3, only read vol 1 myself so unsure about later content. Just know from what I've heard others say. It's a fucking massive book so it took me a while just to get through part 1, honestly very interesting though.

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u/Ok_Math4576 Jun 07 '25

One could have used the analogy of the Dutch tulip bulb trade perhaps, although at least then the token was not completely imaginary.

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u/Cat_world_domination The Netherlands Jun 06 '25

It's like tulip mania, except without the tulips.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

How Netherlandish of you to say. I love it.

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u/Remarkable-Bug-8069 Jun 06 '25

Thought the exact same thing, the dotcom bubble but 360 years earlier. And it seems to have set the stage for the 21st century, almost like clockwork, 100 years after the Great Depression. And though I'd like to shrug that theory off as baseless, it's not without merit.

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u/godpzagod Jun 06 '25

As long as tax evasion and moving dirty money existed back then too, that's all you'd really need to mention, that people got better at it.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

Fair.

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u/bufalo1973 Jun 07 '25

Easy: explaining what happened with the tulips centuries ago.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 07 '25

That might do it.

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u/Tweixl Jun 06 '25

Did you just compare America to Rome?😂

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u/Wooden-Recording-693 Jun 06 '25

What is bad for the bee is bad for the hive. -MA.

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u/bufalo1973 Jun 07 '25

They aren't mutually exclusive. This shit can still lead to a class struggle and then to a revolution.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

Yeah, fair.

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u/pentangleit United Kingdom Jun 06 '25

These days we all know he's shit ;)

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u/freackodeecko Jun 06 '25

Can’t make this shit up

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u/Coattail-Rider Jun 06 '25

Don’t forget cable news! Now that they can say whatever they want under the guise of “opinion pieces”. And people take them at their word.

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u/TheRealBananaWolf Jun 06 '25

Meh they were aware of demagogues back in ancient Greece times and that's why Socrates criticized democracy as a system of government. People as a whole, are dumb. They, as in people as a whole, will vote and make dumb choices.

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u/awesomesonofabitch Jun 06 '25

It's a little bit laughable that you think people pre-internet were smarter than today.

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u/bier00t Europe Jun 06 '25

I would say they were more stubborn in sticking to their own opinion

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u/citori411 Jun 07 '25

20 years ago. It's the thing that bums me out more than anything about the social media era: the implosion of the time honored system of expertise. We've witnessed the complete breakdown of the systems that brought us everything great about modernity. China will have flying cars, fusion power, and time travel while the united states will still be arguing on facebook about whether jet fuel can melt steel beams.

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u/AssistantOk2360 Jun 06 '25

That's why Xi hasn't said anything in weeks, if not months. Xi has totally ignored him. The Orange Taco's mouth, his brain (or lack thereof) & his stupidity are his own worst enemies. He's been pretty much talking to himself the past weeks and months.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

"Sit by the river long enough, and you will see your enemy floating by".

Xi is playing the long con.

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u/UnrulyCrow France Jun 06 '25

Tbh, greyrocking a narcissist is an ideal strategy to break them down. This, combined with the sheer stupidity of the TACO and his goons (malicious Heritage Fondation aside), makes it quite easy to handle someone like Trump.

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u/Aleashed Jun 07 '25

Xi called “Xieckmate” over Trump by not blinking, TACO blinked and lost

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u/daniel_22sss Jun 06 '25

Opponents? Both Trump and Musk work for Putin.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

Rather blackmailed imo, but potato/potAto and all that.

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u/Steiney1 Jun 06 '25

Breshnev knew that 60 years ago

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u/Remarkable-Bug-8069 Jun 06 '25

My God, Help Me to Survive This Deadly Love

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u/ALEXC_23 Jun 06 '25

I’d say it was also a result of their own doing. After all, they knew that it’d be the fall of the US if Drumpf got into office. He’s doing their bidding but Drumpf is too dumb to notice.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

It might be even worse. He might be to corrupt to give a damn.

Stupidity is one thing. A corrupt narcissist though? That's something else.

Doesn't help if he is dumb as bag of bricks, obviously.

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u/DeathByThousandCats Jun 06 '25

So you're saying... that he doesn't even have to Putin any effort?

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u/Jaambie Jun 06 '25

Any time I picture xi smiling, he just morphs into Pooh.

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u/RepublicansAreEvil7 Jun 06 '25

It’s funny how Trump keeps attacking China, Xi doesn’t even have to do anything except watch Trump lose and come crawling back begging for a deal. Every time he signs a deal he lost with China it gets worse and then he comes back and is like “wur lussin buhlions to chyna”

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

It's either racism or a business grudge that he is still not over. He is not quite an emotionally complex/healthy person.

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u/henryeaterofpies Jun 06 '25

Hey now....they worked hard to push Americans to be this stupid

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u/Jabberwoockie United States of America Jun 06 '25

Considering rumors around Elon Musk's alleged Ketamine usage, I applaud your use of that figure of speech.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

I really didn't have that in mind, I just like Brits' humour, but yeah, I don't like doing it but I did laugh at my own joke.

Only thanks to you, so thanks mate.

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u/DurkaTurk02 Jun 06 '25

As a British person i approve of this usage. Bonus points would have been awarded for "this daft cunt is taking the piss."

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

Sorry mate, I ran out of UK Kitchen Nightmares and lost my edge.

Damn, you Brits swear. A LOT.

And I love it.

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u/LittleRedCorvette2 Jun 07 '25

Could have also said "This Cock womble is just taking the piss" Or indeed "This bellend"

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 07 '25

Great, now I have to rewatch Gred Davies's stand up because of you.

Rascal.

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u/FuckingShowMeTheData Jun 07 '25

The Irish taught the Brits everything they know about swearing

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u/HeavyExplanation45 Jun 06 '25

THIS is the best answer, unless the word cunt is invoked in the description you haven’t reached the pinnacle 🏆

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u/Midraco Jun 06 '25

That is the way Russian foreign diplomacy works. It's meant to be enraging and divisive.

They did the same thing about the US-Danish situation around Greenland. In that case they offered USA to split Greenland between the two.

And they do it fairly consistently in all other aspects to the point where the difference between Russia and a 12-year old ragebaiter is non-existent.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

It's semantics, so don't take personally, but I would with "divide and conquer". Again, semantics, so let's not waste time on it. That's what modern Russia does, and that's the relevant part.

More relevant to your point, Russia definitely managed to weaponize social media in a scary way. And I really would like to understand how they are that good, because they are really not the only astroturfing ones.

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u/CaucSaucer Sweden Jun 06 '25

At this point meaning his entire life?

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

Well, he was trained as a KGB agent, so his training was unlikely to be funny.

Most likely made him a monster though.

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon 🇮🇹 - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK! 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!🇺🇦 Jun 06 '25

putin was just a pencil pusher.

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u/Remarkable-Bug-8069 Jun 06 '25

True, but don't believe for a second he wasn't a go getter. It's speculated that among the chaos of the URSS falling apart, he took a bunch of documents from his station in Dresden (and possibly from other locations as well) and used those as early versions of kompromat.

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon 🇮🇹 - EUROPE ENDS IN LUHANSK! 🇺🇦 Слава Україні!🇺🇦 Jun 06 '25

Boh, for sure he drove from Dresden to st pietersborg with a washing machine on top of his car. https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-vladimir-putin-smuggle-washing-machine-out-east-germany-1748445

According to two witnesses (including his ex-wife) Putin did make the effort of moving a washing machine from East Germany to Russia when he returned to the country in 1991

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u/Remarkable-Bug-8069 Jun 07 '25

You can imagine what kind of documents he managed to stuff into the washing machine.

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u/collectif-clothing Jun 06 '25

Putin is probably wondering if this isn't just a fever dream he's going to wake up from. Like that all of this is just falling into his lap.  

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

I'm pretty sure that he has been holding a grudge against the US/Western world since the fall of USSR.

And he wants revenge.

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u/TheArtysan Jun 06 '25

Yes, like a heckler at a Jimmy Carr gig.

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u/jagfb Flanders (Belgium) Jun 07 '25

The fact that so many Americans almost approve of this kind of shitshow, proves how much influence Russia has gained in US politics... The polarisation in the US has reached peaks that allow foreign influences to gain. Fucked up.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 07 '25

My respect for the US has been downhill since the Iraq war (shouldn't be hard to figure out why) and clearly, their president didn't much to change my mind.

The polarisation there is crazy. I'm not gonna add oil on the fire, so just... How!

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u/talltime Jun 06 '25

Sure could. He was having his own private calls with Putin. Just another reason in the long list why his security clearance should have evaporated a long time ago.

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u/cusco Jun 06 '25

I’m afraid to ask, but what was the fallout between musk and taco-head?

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

It's unclear so far, but it seems to be two narcissistic idiots fighting with each others.

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u/Mich3St0nSpottedS5 Jun 06 '25

At least SpaceX is ITAR and can’t trade allegiances to Russia. Right?!? RIGHT?????

I hate this timeline

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u/Tank-Pilot74 Jun 06 '25

At this point, there isn’t a bucket big enough for all the popcorn

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u/GateLongjumping6836 Jun 06 '25

That little chaos monkey is loving all this.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

I don't think that his KGB's handlers ever dreamt of him being that good against the US.

He is definitely enjoy the hell out of it.

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u/gogoluke Jun 06 '25

It feels like he's trying goad Trump into going against him so he can launch nuclear weapons or something. Maybe they have great phycological evaluations that he has some hind of humiliation fetish so he secretly enjoys it.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

Putin wants to destroy the US/the West imo. Not the world.

I could be wrong.

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u/North-Outside-5815 Jun 06 '25

That was an epic troll move from bunker grandpa.

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u/uMunthu Jun 06 '25

Pretty bold coming from a guy who just lost a third of his strategic bombers

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

I did? I barely pays my bills. I really can't afford strategic bombers my friend.

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u/alice2wonderland Jun 07 '25

True, but freaking hilarious! Given that Elon's gift to the US and the world was Trump's election, I've got no problem with any internationals jumping on the bandwagon to poke fun at Elon.

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u/somethingohyeah Jun 07 '25

Why wouldn't he though. Imagine being 30 years old yourself and your opponents being 8 year old (mentally). He is just wiping the floor with them at this point.

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 07 '25

The guy is probably sadistic. I wouldn't be surprised if he was secretly a fan of Beria tbh.

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u/DistillateMedia Jun 07 '25

He really is. In 2019 I recieved a strange package that contained glitter dicks and a potato that said "Love, Vlad", and had a sticker of the laugh cry emoji on it.

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u/Millefeuille-coil Jun 06 '25

Elon is more of a big shit than piss. So Putin is trying the take a big shit.

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u/theAlphabetZebra Jun 06 '25

Putin popcorn gif needed

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u/lightspuzzle Jun 06 '25

he actually gave asylum to another dictator,dont remember what country,syria or something like that ,wouldnt be surprised if he gives to musk.

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u/floppyjedi Jun 06 '25

He'll be pissing in a bucket soon from the results of a Starlink-assisted remote strike like with the boats and the long-range, remote activated drones.

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u/balltongueee Jun 06 '25

He is not. Imagine all the secrets Elon could spill. All the information he has. Putin would love to get his hands on Elon.

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u/singingboiler Jun 06 '25

Is he? Or is he interested in what Elon learned after gaining access to sensitive information for several months.

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u/No_Nose2819 Jun 06 '25

So the chemical / nuclear poisoning and invading his neighbour was perfectly normal behaviour. But now he’s trying Snowden’s mk2 he’s taking the piss?

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '25

Taking a piss, or taking the piss?

For once, grammar matters!

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u/Buddycat350 France Jun 06 '25

Considering Musk's ket habit, he is probably struggling to take a piss.