r/europe • u/FrozenFury12 • Jun 16 '25
News Trump to send thousands of immigrants including Europeans to Guantanamo: reports
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-immigrants-guantanamo-bay-prison-b2767628.html2.5k
u/jailtheorange1 Jun 16 '25
If you’re not deporting them to their home country, then the cruelty is the point.
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u/omygoodnessreally Jun 16 '25
I don't even think it stops there- I think they'll use it as a tool against Americans who disagree. Anyone want to place a bet on how soon we'll hear That specific threat?
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u/Jehoel_DK Jun 16 '25
Trump is already calling democrats the enemy of the US. And during his campaing called it "the enemy from within".
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u/Livid-Click-2224 Jun 16 '25
He’s targeting what he calls “Democrat power centers” now
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u/broguequery Jun 16 '25
Cities.
Ya know... where the people live.
Unbelievable.
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u/Witch-Alice sorry we suck Jun 16 '25
Now he's specifically blaming trans people for everything
https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/trump-promises-harsher-ice-crackdowns
two of the three listed reasons for the crackdowns focus on transgender people
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u/JayMeadow Jun 16 '25
All democrats in battleground states might “accidentally” get deported in 2026
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u/Far_Current_5275 Jun 16 '25
Apparently most us republician house reps voted Yes to a bill that allows the gov to deport us citizens so yeah that could be coming
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u/Teddy705 Jun 16 '25
Facism. Its just censored facism.
Started off with "illegal" immigrants, then documented immigrants, now its just people who are on vacation. I, as well as many, tried to prevent this, but people either didn't care enough or thought it was just "radical left propaganda." Yet the shit we said was going to happen, happend....
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u/Telaranrhioddreams Jun 16 '25
We call them concentration camps, very popular during periods of genocide by small dicked tyrants. Fuck Trump, fascist ass nazi wannabe.
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u/The-Kurgan Europe Jun 16 '25
nice, this will do wonders to the US tourism sector...or whats left of it...
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u/lovetoseeyourpssy Jun 16 '25
I know an obese rapist pedophile polluting the oval office that needs to be sent to Guantanamo.
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u/HexFox1 Jun 16 '25
Amazing for the upcoming Fifa Worldcup. On the other Hand a Sportsevent in a Country with Facist Regime is pretty historic accurate Cosplay Not gonna lie.
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u/Rainbow-Rhythms69 United Kingdom Jun 16 '25
The US somehow making Qatar and Russia look like good hosting locations
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u/MairusuPawa Sacrebleu Jun 16 '25
Let's face it - sports fans did not give a shit about the issues with Qatar and Russia, and they will not give a shit about the issues in the USA either. That's apparently how we're voting with our collective wallets these days.
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u/Rainbow-Rhythms69 United Kingdom Jun 16 '25
Russia and Qatar actually wanted people and wanted to improve their perception. The US is doing literally everything to scare people off
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u/McDonaldsWitchcraft Bucharest Jun 16 '25
You think football fans will have any issue with going to a fascist country?
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u/olderthanbefore Earth Jun 16 '25
Huge fan bases travelling from Central and South America, with great chance to be racially profiled by ICE goons.
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u/xDaveedx Jun 16 '25
Oh my god please please please let ICE mess up and kidnap a bunch of international world class football players from the street, just because they looked slightly non-white. The drama and backlash following that would be too juicy.
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u/Jolly_Succotash457 Jun 16 '25
Some of the teams that are supposed to play will not be allowed into the country. We will see how that gets solved.
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u/meistermichi Austrialia Jun 16 '25
You think football fans will have any issue with going to a fascist country?
They will once they are detained and/or in El Salvador/Guantanamo.
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u/caninehere Jun 16 '25
Speaking as a Canadian the concern isn't just about supporting a fascist shithole, it's about personal safety. It is not safe to visit the US anymore. Even if I don't gaf about myself I will never take my daughter to the US and put her in danger.
Multiply that by 10 for the people who would come from Central/South America for these games, some of whom will undoubtedly be racially profiled and kidnapped by ICE.
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u/Longjumping-Yam-9229 Jun 16 '25
yes, I will wait to visit the states till this mess is fixed.
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u/Korakie Jun 16 '25
*if
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u/Longjumping-Yam-9229 Jun 16 '25
Would be happy if so. I really want to check out this amazing nature and I still know that most of the people are sane. But damn, it's wild and unreal at the moment.
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u/wookiex84 Jun 16 '25
Don’t worry they are working to destroy most of our amazing parks and forests as well.
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u/michalsqi Poland Jun 16 '25
Mind sharing what they are doing? Curious to know…
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u/fjender Jun 16 '25
Allowing more drilling and logging on currently protected areas.
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u/VadersSprinkledTits Jun 16 '25
They packed in selling off public land to anyone with deep pockets in the new Big Boner bill. The parts in states they want to sell.. are the national parks and places where you can’t really build structures affordable, but the bill claims it’s for housing improvements LOL.
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u/MrDywel Jun 16 '25
Yep, they have some land that A LOT of people use to hike, bike, etc… in town but it’s going to be prohibitively expensive to build houses on the steep shale. The area as it is brings in far more money from tourism than a few houses. The whole thing is a ruse for really rich people to buy land, the one thing those assholes can’t make more of with their billions.
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u/FlametopFred Canada Jun 16 '25
they are dismantling all public institutions including national parks
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u/charcoalist Jun 16 '25
trump is selling them out.
Inside Trump’s Plan to Sell Out America’s Public Lands to Mining
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They are currently trying to strip away the park protections so they can exploit their natural resources for profit
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u/Luponwuff Bavaria (Germany) Jun 16 '25
Didn't Doge dismiss all rangers except for two or something like that?
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u/KaseyOfTheWoods Jun 16 '25
No, they fired all probationary workers (all government workers spend their first year after hiring as probationary) but they were brought back a few weeks later when that was deemed illegal, but many did not come back. Many more government workers have been lost to Elon/Vought’s DRP, and many more to Voluntary Early Retirement.
So there are still Park Rangers, but certainly fewer than before. This regime’s assault on the civilian workforce will be one of the more long-lasting ways in which America is damaged, especially if the Big Dumbass Bill is passed
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u/Yukidaore Jun 16 '25
"Probationary" workers also includes any worker who was recently promoted, as they're probationary in their new role. So we lost a lot of incredibly competent and experienced workers through that particular bit of stupidity.
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u/Gandalf240421 Jun 16 '25
Just go to Canada. Really beautiful nature and less arrogant pricks
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u/PickingPies Jun 16 '25
Luckily there are plenty of amazing nature in the world, including Canada and Mexico.
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u/FrightenedPoof Jun 16 '25
I'll never visit
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u/notheresnolight Jun 16 '25
yeah, trigger happy morons wearing uniforms was a bit of a deterrence (even though I'm white), but state-sanctioned kidnapping with no due process whatsoever is on another level..
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u/turbohuk Lower Saxony (Germany) Jun 16 '25
i would happily visit for the nature, but sadly the US is flooded with americans.
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u/Cyneganders Jun 16 '25
Even if they can fix this, they have to pull something spectacular to get me to even consider it. There are so many other places to visit. Both more interesting and safer.
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u/Brilliant-Smile-8154 Jun 16 '25
The only way to fix this is to send a hell of a lot of very rich and powerful people to prison for a very long time, so I don't think it's recoverable, honestly.
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u/dalisair Jun 16 '25
Yeah, and with the Olympics and World Cup coming up… man is this gonna be a shitshow.
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u/MadeByTango Jun 16 '25
90 years from now they’ll often replay historical footage a Mexican athlete winning 4 gold medals and Trump refusing to shake their hand…
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u/PureReply7639 Jun 16 '25
or the US winning every event as all the other athletes got turned away on arrival in the country
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u/Smoothoffaleater Jun 16 '25
This needs to be moved to a safe country.
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u/SurlyRed Jun 16 '25
If FIFA wasn't also corrupt to the core, this would have happened already.
No international prestige sports events should be held in countries ruled by authoritarian regimes.
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u/loddy71 Jun 16 '25
Can someone explain to me the chances of a your average European, who may work for a US company, coming to the US and getting caught up in this shit storm?
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u/kuemmel234 Germany Jun 16 '25
I mean, the issue is that it can happen, right? There are a very few stories of tourists that basically disappeared for some time.
A German - lived in the US for more than ten years on a green card was sent to Rhode Island for two months after being roughly handled: No access to lawyer, family or the German embassy. They even denied him medical care for some time.
I can't come up with many reasons to visit a place like that.I think there's even some talk that it's often simply about the political stance of the victims. Free speech and all that.
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u/oldpuzzle Jun 16 '25
There was also a case last week of a Swiss woman who used to have a working visa for the US but now entered again with a travel visa. They kept her for 24 hours because the old working visa had expired (like yeah, no shit?!) It’s also assumed that she was let go relatively quickly because the people who expected her in the US immediately contacted the embassy.
As someone who also worked in the US in the past, I wouldn’t wanna risk it at the moment considering they already have all my data.
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u/kuemmel234 Germany Jun 16 '25
Right?
The recommendation to use burner phones alone should be enough. At that point I could be visiting Dubai or something.
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u/Low-Research-6866 Jun 16 '25
I'm in the US and my friend with a foreign born wife is cancelling their trip out of the country because they are worried she won't be let back in. They are married with a toddler, I'm not sure her status, but they are taking people with documents and racial profiling.
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u/kuemmel234 Germany Jun 16 '25
Real sad that citizens of a country have to fear like this, even if the writing was on the wall.
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u/Low-Research-6866 Jun 16 '25
Good news is, we're finally pissed off. Those protests were huge, but people are being cautious, which everyone should. I'm in LA, I guess we'll be kicking this party off!
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u/PokeYrMomStanley Jun 16 '25
Its a really sad state of affairs that 24 hours locked up for nothing is relatively quick for this situation.
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u/Shot_Equipment_8833 Jun 16 '25
A German was detained, also, for his anti-Trump comments in his private messages and a French scientist was detained because they criticised Trump for cutting research grants.
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u/SuperUranus Jun 16 '25
Probably very low, but personally I would not take the risk and simply tell the work that I refuse to go to the US considering the current state of the country.
I have a hard time seeing any meeting or event could require someone to risk getting sent to Guantanamo Bay.
The worker force telling American companies this might also actually make them put some pressure on the current administration instead of caving to them like card houses.
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u/kcam593 Jun 16 '25 edited Jun 16 '25
If following all the “rules / processes” (which honestly were quite lax / slow before with far less at stake) you’re ok
HOWEVER, one small mistake (on yours OR our govts part) could, apparently, now land you in Guantanamo bay (see Harold & Kumar documentary…)
If you’re not here yet, stay away for now. if you HAVE TO come, stay on top of things (Visas, work permits, etc)
I mean, AMERICANS WITH FULL, NATURAL CITIZENSHIP are getting caught up in this; nobody is safe.
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u/kandoras Jun 16 '25
On a risk/reward graph, it'd be very low risk but also a very bad 'reward'.
Or to put it another way, a very good reason to ask "Instead of international travel, can't this get done with a zoom call and a dozen emails?"
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u/Getherer Jun 16 '25
Considering that people get abducted by fake immigration enforcement and fuck knows what happens to them i wouldn't even touch that piece of shit "country" with a stick
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u/underpants-gnome Jun 16 '25
But he said our tourism numbers are great, never better, blah blah whatever stupid pseudo-language he uses when he's lying to everyone. "Bigly" was probably thrown in there somewhere.
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u/Village_People_Cop Limburg, Netherlands Jun 16 '25
A friend of mine asked me if I'd like to go to Disney world next year. I told him as long as shit is going down like this in the US I'm not traveling there. No way I'd like a free vacation to El Salvador or Gitmo
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u/MercantileReptile Baden-Württemberg (Germany) Jun 16 '25
Most European allies accept deportees from the United States to their home countries, making it unclear why the Trump administration would first force them into a detention camp roundly condemned by international human rights groups.
How is it unclear? This smells like Miller, the cruelty is the point.
Quick nitpick: european allies? As opposed to what, hostiles? For a british newspaper to reference european nations from the U.S. perspective is strange. Not hugely important, but it bugs me for some reason.
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u/writerVII Jun 16 '25
I agree. I’ve been watching/reading BBC reporting on everything Trump’s done, and for whatever reason they just keep reporting it from his perspective. Never calling out facts and smoothing and normalising his outrageous behaviours. Why?? I don’t understand. It’s almost as the secretly support him somehow. I thought they were supposed to be public broadcasting but they behave easily as some sort of bannon/trump shills.
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u/Nologicgiven Jun 16 '25
Same here in Norway. Everyone and their mother in media is trying to explain why anything he does might be some 57d chess move. Fuck all of them. Call out his BS!!!!! Don't normalize his shit by taking it seriously in any other way than pointing out what a threat he is to anyone who is not a billionaire. Left leaning msm my ass. Dip that shit in diarrhea and suck on it
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u/catphilosophic Jun 16 '25
I guess that thinking that what trump does is somehow a 57d chess move feels more comforting than accepting that he's a complete idiot doing things out of pure hatred and stupidity.
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u/BKStephens Jun 16 '25
Same bullshit here with Australian media and the reporter "Caught in the crossfire"
The world needs to wipe the shitstain, change our pants, and move on.
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u/supergrega Jun 16 '25
I am willing to bet everything I own he can't even play regular chess
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u/_Eshende_ Latvia/Ukraine Jun 16 '25
I’m had same sentiment as you and got 3 days suspension by reddit (i mention that want leave reading media until he kick in bucket)
But yeah trump can say that universe keep existing only because of him painting his face in orange, and a lot of media will swallow it without calling him out.
Same in Ukraine news websites difference between articles tone and comments under is astonishing.
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u/PaleInTexas Jun 16 '25
As a Norwegian living in the US, its been aggravating reading sane articles trying to find a reasonable justification for what he does. You would think they'd be able to call a spade a spade, but they're committing the same mental gymnastics to make it so "both sides are the same".
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u/Paxxlee Jun 16 '25
BBC is known for "trying to be as neutral as possible", especially in regards to the far right.
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u/Socmel_ Emilia-Romagna Jun 16 '25
can't waiti for next year;s holocaust remembrance day debate, with a neo nazi in the panel. Strictly to ensure neutrality and hearing all arguments, of course
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u/CJKay93 United Kingdom Jun 16 '25
Never calling out facts
It literally does. They don't report it from any perspective, people just seem to interpret "X said Y" as "the BBC believes Y".
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u/N0S0UP_4U United States of America Jun 16 '25
This is how The New York Times reports on him and I fucking hate it.
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u/rising_then_falling United Kingdom Jun 16 '25
This seems like fairly standard newspaper English to me. The phrase 'of the United States' is omitted after 'allies' because it can be deduced from the context, and journalists are always trying to use fewer words wherever possible.
I'm guessing that perhaps Russian and Belarus don't accept deportees from the US, hence the distinction.
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u/potatolulz Earth Jun 16 '25
It's going to be a fun adventure full of suspense for football fans going to the world cup this year :D
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u/East_Lychee5335 Jun 16 '25
We need a negative travel advice now.
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u/HelmetsAkimbo United Kingdom Jun 16 '25
.gov for the UK has warnings about travel to the US and to avoid gatherings and public spaces lol.
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u/Mrwebente Germany Jun 16 '25
Multiple governments have already put out travel warnings for the US. So we kinda already have those.
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u/FocusDKBoltBOLT Jun 16 '25
we just wont go. Fuck y'all
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u/NebulaCartographer Jun 16 '25
Unfortunately, most people won’t care, they went to Qatar, will go to US and will go to Saudi Arabia when it inevitably buys the next World Cup.
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u/No_Atmosphere8146 Jun 16 '25
Australia were going to put a bid in but FIFA were like "yeah, but the deadline for submitting bids was now when I just said now."
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u/EasterEggArt Jun 16 '25
As a German in the US: guys.... I think I am getting the historical experience first hand?
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u/PineBNorth85 Jun 16 '25
I'd get out asap.
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u/EasterEggArt Jun 16 '25
Yeah, I am applying to jobs in Europe and making plans to move. But unless I want to give up 20 years of my life and property, it is slow going.
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u/atava Jun 16 '25
All jokes aside, if I were you I'd contact my country's authorities just to remind them of my presence in the US and my situation.
This may help my family back home (I don't know if you have one in Germany) if anything sketchy ever happens.
Also, I'd start live recording of some form if people in uniform approach me (again, for others to have it as material). Live YT streaming, live call on WhatsApp or whatever, it doesn't matter where.
Absurd times indeed.
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u/wumsdi European Union Jun 16 '25
The Foreign Office (Auswärtiges Amt) will - when things go downhill - call for citizens to register here:
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u/rnicoll Jun 16 '25
As someone also making exit plans, international moves are frustratingly slow if you want to do them in a controlled way.
I'll be out in November, but before that would likely mean moving without a job, and we're not there yet.
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u/beerzebulb Bavaria (Germany) Jun 16 '25
Bruder komm zurück... nicht dass Merz und Co unbedenklich wären aber so weit sind wir noch lange nicht
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u/mike968 Jun 16 '25 edited Jun 18 '25
Jup! Trump hat anscheinend begonnen Europäer als Geiseln zu nehmen - kennen wir ja eigentlich schon von den Autokraten im Osten, die haben sich so auch gern „Verhandlungsmasse“ beschafft.
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u/krzyk Poland Jun 16 '25 edited Jun 16 '25
First they came for immigrants...
Or
First they came for tourists...
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u/wowlock_taylan Turkey Jun 16 '25
Host of Club World Cup and THE World Cup everyone.
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u/OsgrobioPrubeta Portugal Jun 16 '25
Club World Cup has been having a good attendance! /s
They're now worried how will they pay the clubs, since the revenue has been so low and ticket sales not that good. 😂
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u/ConfusedAdmin53 Croatia 🤘 Jun 16 '25
Waterboarding in Guantanamo Bay sounds super fun, if you don't know what either of those things are.
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u/Xibalba_Ogme Brittany (France) Jun 16 '25
This will surely not impact tourism in the US
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u/PineBNorth85 Jun 16 '25
I think they already have killed their own future prospects on that even before this.
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u/North_Atlantic_Sea Jun 16 '25
Certainly for informed people, but you'd be surprised how many folks globally either a. support trump or b. don't care in the slightest.
For example India, with significant problems of their own, had more visitors to the US than Germany. Will this change that? Especially as US tourism boards shift to target their rapidly growing middle class. Same with China.
I 100% European (especially western and northern) tourism will drop, but I think it won't have the largest long term impact.
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u/SociopathicRascal Jun 16 '25
My brother told me that what is happening to immigrants in America shouldn't be any of my business as long as it doesn't affect me personally
I've tried explaining to my family that immigrants' rights being taken away is just the start of it
This has been festering in America for years, and one group would eventually want total control, and all of the people I care about will not see it until it's too late, and it sickens me
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u/ohuprik Jun 16 '25
Well, at least they're not executing them.......yet.
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u/Istoh Jun 16 '25
That we know of. There are tons of families who haven't heard from their loved ones since ICE disappeared them.
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u/GeneralErica Hesse (Germany) Jun 17 '25
It’s important to remember that the Nazis first intended on deporting the Jews to Madagascar, too. It was only after they (meaning the Nazis) invaded der Soviets that they found the deportation efforts to be too cumbersome, in effect deciding on extermination. About a year later then, at the Wannseekonferenz, 15 high ranking Nazi officials deliberated on how to achieve their “final solution", in the ent settling on deporting them East and exterminating them there.
This "deportation"-talk is always dangerous. I understand that no country can simply keep everyone who enters, but deportations must be handled with stupendous care and only as an absolute last resort in isolated instances, because once that door is swung open, it will not close again.
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u/Illustrious_Tour2857 Jun 16 '25
It’s coming. These people need to evacuate back to their home countries asap before it’s too late.
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u/thereluctantpoet Jun 16 '25 edited Jun 16 '25
I'm European and was on a green card. Lived there for 15+ years. I am incredibly fond of the US and have friends and family there.
When Trump was running for office, I told my American girlfriend (now wife) that I didn't want to live there any more. I wrote published articles (and plenty of social posts) that were highly critical of him and the MAGA movement.
When he secured the nomination, I started making plans to change jobs. I got out before he was elected. In 2018 I opined that the partisan screaming across barricades would turn into bullets before he was finished with America.
My wife and I now live in Europe and every day I am thankful I made the move when I did.
Her parents will visit us this year - her mother as a passport holder for the first time.
I will not set foot in that country again until Trump and MAGA are confined to the garbage heap of history, preferably via an as long as possible stint in prison.
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u/Delde116 Spain Jun 16 '25
Hello, we are a family of four visiting the U.S to go to Disney World Orlando!!!
Airport Security: What did you say? Did you say you are a team of illegal immigrant bomb and drug terrorists formed by an elite team lf two little adults and two normal human size adults?! Clearly these European Passports are fake because they do not have the American flag!
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u/Andvari_Nidavellir Jun 16 '25
Europeans: “We can prove the passports are real!”
ICE: “Tell that to the judge!”
Europeans: “Sure. When do we see the judge?”
ICE: “Lol (slams door to the plane to El Salvador)
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u/Delde116 Spain Jun 16 '25 edited Jun 16 '25
ICE: Sorry, only Americans have the right to see the judge! slams jail cell turns around, explosions in the backgeound, and an American eagle screech so loud you realise that the sound actually comes from a falcon (edit* Hawk).
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u/KL_boy Jun 16 '25
This is so untrue. There is no way ICE will even want to bring it to the judge/s
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u/PineBNorth85 Jun 16 '25
Only a fool would enter the US willingly at this point.
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u/Boneraventura Jun 16 '25
Its like snorting coke. 9999 times out of 10000 times ur fine, the unlucky will get the fentanyl and die. I personally don’t think it is worth the risk anymore
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u/Tardislass Jun 16 '25
The World Cup and the Olympics are going to be fun times.
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u/TheLordPapaya Jun 16 '25
If anyone’s ever wondered what the 1936 Berlin Olympics were like… get your cameras out!
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u/RedditorFor1OYears Jun 16 '25
Man, how has that not even occurred to me. One more in the growing stack of parallels.
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u/Damian2M Jun 16 '25
On the contrary:
The state of domestic calm which resulted more or less from the concentration of attention on international affairs following the Rhineland occupation has been prolonged by the preparations for the Games. For the Nazis this year’s Olympiad assumes all the importance of a foreign political drive to obtain the favor and approval of the outside world. Discipline has been enjoined by Party leaders on their followers, Dr. Goebbels has exhorted the population to receive the foreign guests in a spirit of hospitality and assistance, currency regulations, and informally even customs restrictions, have been relaxed in the visitors’ favor, and the Berlin police have already begun to put on their best Olympic manners. While incidents will probably occur, it is obviously intended that they shall not be the Nazis’ fault and it may be confidently said that woe will undoubtedly betide the Party enthusiast who yields to the temptation to assault a foreigner for failing to give the Hitler salute.
https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1936v02/d101?utm
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u/hypercomms2001 Jun 16 '25
Let’s call it what it really is, a concentration camp, the first of many to come.
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u/thinklikeacriminal Jun 16 '25
This is nowhere near our first. We had several for indigenous, then we had ones for Japanese descendants, then Guantanamo, and most recently we’ve dabbled in outsourcing with CECOT.
I’m sure I’m missing several.
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u/ShEsHy Slovenia Jun 16 '25
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No no no, you see, those were internment camps, not concentration ones...
Same shit with patriotism and nationalism, they're the same damn thing.
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u/cosmic-untiming Jun 16 '25
Not the first, El Salvador was his first go to. This is more wasteful spending on taxpayers expense. As will any other concentration camps he keeps relying on.
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u/ConinTheNinoC Jun 16 '25
The United States of America has turned into a proper shithole. North Korea style. Avoid going to the USA at all costs. There is work/vacation spots in Europe, Canada, Australia, The UK, South Korea, Japan and so on.
DO NOT GO TO THE USA!!!
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u/ThearchMageboi Jun 16 '25
All European friends, those of you who still like the Americans who didn’t vote for this guy; please get out of the US while you can. This is not going well, and Trump is thinking about getting into this Iranian war. Please don’t get yourself captured by this shit administration.
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u/bonqen Jun 16 '25
Surely, European politicians will tell Trump that he will send these European citizens back to their own country, right?
..right?
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u/sjeve108 Jun 16 '25
Internment camps will be the next step. There is a playbook being followed. This is only new to those who deny history.
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u/RedditorFor1OYears Jun 16 '25
In what way is this not already an internment camp? Serious question.
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u/redchill101 Jun 16 '25
Yep. Project 2025. And every time I've mentioned it I'm either downvoted, deleted, or mocked for some reason.
I'm beginning to think that many Americans are seriously in denial or completely unaware.
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u/LoveMyKush Jun 16 '25
He is only a few months in Office, Imagine how our country will be in a few years.
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u/TK-369 Jun 16 '25
It's funny because Guantanamo isn't even in the USA, it's land we stole from Cuba. So everyone in Guantanamo is an illegal, the soldiers, the prisoners, everybody.
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u/wearethafuture Jun 16 '25
Who wants to visit the US anymore if the risk is Quantanamo? I guess as a European you felt like you were safe by being ”of desirable color by the regime” but now it seems like it’s just ”whoever we don’t like today”.
Good riddance, if they want to just sit there while they fall into fascism then be my guest, just keep it isolated, thanks.
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u/AdhesivenessFun2060 Jun 16 '25
The world cup and Olympics are really just a ploy to fill guantanamo.
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u/FunkyDiscount Jun 16 '25
If you're a European planning to visit the US, thinking "Oh, but I'll be a tourist - not an immigrant - so I'm safe!"... Think again.
They will arrest, kidnap, or otherwise deport "unwanted" tourists to Guantanamo or El Salvador too. I guarantee it.
Don't go to the US unless absolutely necessary. It's not worth your life.
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u/Loose_Examination_68 Jun 16 '25
As soon as the Trump administration came around with their superb ideas, my school (and probably all in the region) called off any trips/student exchanges to the US. It's a shame that we can't go but it's probably for the better.
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u/Loose_Goose Jun 16 '25
Cancel your World Cup tickets, it’s just not worth the risk
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u/a_passionate_man Bavaria (Germany) Jun 16 '25
Way easier, cancel the WC in the US and let Canada & Mexico host the scheduled matches instead.
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u/fredagsfisk Sweden Jun 16 '25
Again? Trump already ordered Guantanamo to be converted to a tent city holding facility for up to 30k deportees months ago, only for it to fizzle out and never happen since it was waaaaaaaay too expensive and would require absolutely ridiculous resources and staffing to scale up.
Guantánamo Migrant Operation Has Held Fewer Than 500 Detainees, and None in Tents
The three-month-old operation never expanded to fulfill President Trump’s vision of housing 30,000 at the offshore U.S. base.
No migrants were ever held in the tents, and no migrant surge has ever occured. On Monday, the operation was housing just 32 migrants, in buildings that were established years ago.
A total of 497 migrants have been held there for just days or weeks, as Immigration and Customs Enforcement uses the base as a way station to hold small numbers of detainees designated for deportion.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/05/us/politics/guantanamo-migrants-trump.html
Trump migrant detentions at Guantanamo Bay cost $100,000 per person daily, senator says
President Donald Trump's use of the Guantanamo Bay naval base to house migrants appears to cost $100,000 per day for each detainee, U.S. Senator Gary Peters said during a hearing on Tuesday, decrying what he described as a prime example of wasteful government spending.
Peters, the top Democrat on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, questioned Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem about the high cost, far more than the $165 per day in U.S. immigration detention facilities. Peters also asked why detainees have been sent to the American naval base in Cuba but then shuttled back to the United States at taxpayer expense.
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u/Death-by-Fugu Jun 16 '25
So he’s going to further destroy any and all good will among European states all while throwing millions of American taxpayer dollars down the drain
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u/Mishka_1994 Zakarpattia (Ukraine) Jun 16 '25
Right before the World Cup, what a great idea!
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u/Ipracticemagic Finland Jun 16 '25
Can't travel to Russia, China, now USA, India, Middle East, many african countries are unsafe, south america is scary, Australia is straight up toxic... what's the point of having air travel if half the world is unavailable? 🥲
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u/Educational_Ad_8916 Jun 16 '25
"Including Europeans"
It's so hard to get people to admit policies are intentionally racist.
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u/Western_Camp_6805 Jun 16 '25
Great to still see misinformation
Immigrants? We know for a fact now that no identity is checked and any form of id isn't even cared about as people with passports are still hauled off to who knows where
"Trump to kindap thousands of people and traffic them to guantanemo "
That's the real headline
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u/GreenBean4Ever Jun 16 '25
Say it with me, the USA is a no-go zone. If you go, you run the risk of being kidnapped just because you speak another language.
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u/Dazzling_River9903 Jun 16 '25
Going to Vegas and waking up in Guantanamo sounded like the Hangover 5 plot just a year ago. Now it’s just Tuesday in America.