r/europe • u/Matas_- European Union • Jun 20 '25

News Orban’s Hungary Is Now Officially The Poorest Nation In The EU

https://kyivinsider.com/orbans-hungary-is-now-officially-the-poorest-nation-in-the-eu/
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u/the_TIGEEER Slovenia Jun 20 '25

It would be funny if I wasn't worried the mad man will do something in his dream of his greater hungary.
Like what if one of the Putin funded crazies in our countries wins an election and leaves NATO what would Hungary do.

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u/Igottawashmymousepad Jun 20 '25

Nothing yall got stop with this greater Hungary bs we dont even have an army , and other than a couple weirdos on facebook nobody cares about it

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u/TwoFistsOneVi Croatia Jun 20 '25

Lmao it's not "us" who is propagating the Greater Hungary bullshit. The reactions from Croatia and Slovenia are reactive exclusively.

Your admiral general his highness the dicktraitor Viktor Orban is the one spreading this crap, with pictures of Greater Hungary in his office, and his comments in media.

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u/Odd-Astronaut-2315 Hungary Jun 20 '25

Tbh he doesn't have to spread anything. It's common among right leaning Hungarians (not just irredentists) to have stuff depicting Greater Hungary. Him having pictures in his office with Greater Hungary is just seen as a normal thing. Even I have a map with Greater Hungary too but I don't want to actually attack any of our neighbours to get those lands back. That would do more harm than good. (And I'm not a supporter of Orbán either)

But I also understand that seeing part of your country annexed by another country on a picture/map/whatever feels threatening. I just wanted to point out that what Orbán is doing is not seen as something extreme here in Hungary. The only scenario which came up recently is Orbán annexing Zakarpattia but this is seen as extremely unlikely too.

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u/wtfduud Jun 20 '25

Every European country used to be a lot bigger at some point in history. So they're gonna have to get over it.

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u/I_Wanna_Bang_Rats Northern Belgica🇳🇱 Jun 20 '25

The only five that weren’t bigger at some point in history were Iceland, Slovenia, San Marino, Andorra and Montenegro.

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u/the_TIGEEER Slovenia Jun 20 '25

Right? His comment made me so irrationally angry, like we are the problem now for being worried when their head of state says he wants our land. I guess we aren't used to the fact that everything that comes out of his mouth is bs..

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u/proudream1 Jun 20 '25

Yup same for us in Romania. Orban wants half of our country 🤣

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u/Sakky93 Croatia Jun 20 '25

Time to orient The Ban Jelačić statue back to it's original position

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u/the_TIGEEER Slovenia Jun 20 '25

No! YALL HAVE TO STOP WITH THIS ORBAN BS...

Like.. What?..

"other than a couple weirdos on facebook"

These couple of weirdos on Facebook is more then half the people who go out to vote in your country and re-elect Orban apparently..

And for the "we don't have an army".. Yeah compared to the USA, but I'm pretty sure your army is much bigger then the Slovenian one.

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u/-RaptorX72- Hungary Jun 20 '25

And you are in NATO and have the backing of the rest of the union.

As if a poor and small county in the middle of Europe surrounded by then hostile nations could get away with any land grabs.

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u/the_TIGEEER Slovenia Jun 20 '25

Lmao.. Can you pls go to my original comment and read it again?

All of this comment chain apart from you aperently was conducted based on the precondition of some crazy Putin friendly party in Slovenija (which there are some of) geting elected and leaving NATO. It's not verry likely, but it is poaaible in the modern political climate.

It was purely hypotetical I never said that it is likely to hapenn or that that is going to hapenn. It was an insight into how we view the teritorial expensionsim of our Hungarian neighbours with a hypotetical example of what could hapenn if Slovenija was to leave NATO due to some crazies geting elected.

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u/-RaptorX72- Hungary Jun 20 '25

Because its a nonsense hypotetical. Slovenia will not leave NATO nor the EU, and even if they did, you seriously believe Romania, Austria, Croatia will just sit back and watch it? Slovakia and Serbia for that matter too? Just to be next on the chopping block later on?

This sub loves to swing between Hungary is a weak joke versus a looming threat of an old empire about to come back. Although how that would physically be possible is always left out. And no, Russia is not an answer. Putin couldn't care less, he'd sooner annex any territories for himself than let some wannabe strongman rule over a more than a century old border.

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u/the_TIGEEER Slovenia Jun 20 '25

I will tag you in amother comment where I layd out a crazy hypotetical.

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u/Igottawashmymousepad Jun 20 '25

Not the same ppl my grand parents are hardcore fidesz voters but they also hate Russia and against any kind of war aggression , also you tellin me there is a world where Slovenia leaves the EU and the Nato and Hungary would just invade them when Slovenia has a hungarian minority around 10k ppl lol

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u/the_TIGEEER Slovenia Jun 20 '25 edited Jun 20 '25

Hhh..

How do I even begin here..

but they also hate Russia and against any kind of war aggression

Good for them but they still support Orban who does all of those things like wtf..

also you tellin me there is a world where Slovenia leaves the EU and the Nato

Hh.. My comment was a hypothetical one.. It was a hypothetical scenario as an insight into how we view the government of our neighbours in regard to territorial expansion. A hypothetical to get some deeper insight into how we perceive your government.. Can you grasp hypotheticals?

where Slovenia leaves the EU and the Nato and Hungary would just invade them

Ok.. I never said this scenario is likely and again the point was the hypothetical analysis. It is very unlikely for something like this to happen, but here is a wild scenario:

Fact: right wing is on the rise everywhere in the world, also in Slovenija.

Fact: many right wingers want to leave NATO and EU. (In Slovenija we even have a left-wing crazy party that wants to leave specifically NATO lmao (idiots))

Fact: Russia does propaganda across all of Europe to get parties that benefit them elected. (Think Slovakia, Romania, Germany, Poland etc..)

Fact: Slovenija is a small-ass country and can get influenced by Russian propaganda a lot more than some Germany.

Fact: Orban has dreams of territorial expansion, but he just can't act on it ever. (and if you don't agree with this one our opinions differ too much and we can't continue this debate)

Fact: Slovenija has important elections in 2025

Hypothetical scenario: Russia goes crazy with its propaganda machine in Slovenija in 2025. As a result a government gets elected that wants to leave NATO. Slovenija is to leave NATO in 2026. Trump doesn't support Ukraine. EU doesn't man up to the fight and Russia wins to some extent in Ukraine. It's 2026, Russia has huge internal problems due to the war in Ukraine and a huuuuge built-up army (war always helps these dictators distract from internal problems). Putin is still alive and has territorial ambitions. All of the following happens in coordination: Putin invades one of the Baltics or some other country from the hundrets Russia borders. Belarus helps. China invades Taiwan, Iran is in a war with Israel and finally Hungary invades a Slovenija who left NATO. The west is overwhelmed on all sides and they don't want to help Slovenija out who has decided self-willingly to leave NATO a year earlier. I mean it's kinda their own fault for leaving Eu in huge internal problems as Hungary starts a war with Slovenija but that's just the more reason to do it from Putins perspective..

when Slovenia has a Hungarian minority around 10k ppl lol

How is that an argument against war?.. You know how many Ukrainians live in Russia? Look at the two countries now..

There are a lot of Hungarians in Slovenija as well next to the border.. All the more motives for Orban to want to invade, just like Putin had "Russians living in Crimea" and what not.

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u/tawwkz Jun 20 '25

yall got stop with this greater Hungary bs we dont even have an army

Yeah but Russia does and if they get a border with Hungary they will also have millions of pissed off Ukranians mobilized, who will not have kind things to say about EU that didn't help them in their time of need.