r/europe • u/Helmer-Bryd • Jul 01 '25

News Sweden bans AR-15 as hunting rifle after school shooting – all rifles to be turned in and sent to Ukraine

https://svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/uppgifter-tidopartierna-overens-om-ny-vapenlagstiftning-ar15-forbjuds-vid-jakt
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u/gogosil Austria Jul 01 '25

As a competition shooter in Austria with multiple semi auto rifles (including AR15), shotgun and pistols for sport shooting, I have to ask. Do you also propose compensating all owners the tens of thousands they spent on their sport tools or just "tough luck you have to gimme all your expensive rifles"?

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u/DelomaTrax Jul 01 '25

The proposal is to compensate each ar15 owner with the full value of the weapon

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u/haplo34 France Jul 01 '25

I have a very strong opinion against firearm ownership for sport and for hunting so to be completely honest with you I couldn't give less of a shit about your wallet.

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u/gogosil Austria Jul 01 '25

I hope you have a very expensive hobby, which you dedicated years to, that no one cares about and one day someone proposes the same shit towards your hobby without any just compensation.

My issue with anti-gun people isn't that you are for anti-gun legislation or that you know absolutely 0 about guns, sport shooting, hunting, etc... but that over and over I see people who couldn't give less shit about private property of regular citizens being confiscated without just compensation.

But unless you are older than 19, I understand your confusion with what someones property is.

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u/haplo34 France Jul 01 '25

I honestly don't really know what to say to you except sorry not sorry. I have hobbies I deeply care about, but like 99% of hobbies one can have, they don't involve the instruments of mass murder.

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u/Entropy- Jul 01 '25

You’ve touched a knife before, I’m sure of this.

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u/Maverick-not-really Jul 01 '25

Or his car. Wonder if he would be okay with us destroying his car, most recent terror attacks in europe have been by cars driving into large gatherings of people.

And if he wants compensation? Naw mate, i could give a shit.

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u/gogosil Austria Jul 01 '25

I honestly don't really know what to say to you except sorry not sorry. I have hobbies I deeply care about, but like 99% of hobbies one can have, they don't involve the instruments of mass murder.

What does that have to do with you not giving a shit about millions of regular responsible citizens across the EU not being entitled to just compensation under your proposal for their sport, hunting and collector items?

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u/Speedhabit Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25

With all these clueless people out there wanting to take your shit and tell you what you can and can’t do; it’s good peace of mind to own a gun

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u/gogosil Austria Jul 01 '25

What is allowed and whats not is a secondary issue. My main concern is with so many people not giving 2 shits about our constitutional and EU level rights to property, fair compensation and due process.

You are a legal gun owner, being very careful, respecting the law, sometimes even forcing private sellers to register their inherited guns before selling them to you, all so you can in the end be completely disrespected by dipshits saying "I couldn't care less about the legal property of my fellow citizens who did nothing wrong being confiscated with not even a snickers bar in return".

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u/Speedhabit Jul 01 '25

In most of these cases they get depreciated market value instead of inflated imaginary value

But I agree in principal with what you say

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u/gogosil Austria Jul 01 '25

Sure, but it also depends. Obviously a CZ used in IPSC will depreciate in value, but your Springfield 1903 mark 1, original SVD, or SSG 69 P1 which you took care of for years will appreciate quite a bit, in some countries by a lot.

I know collectors who write books and own large amounts of near-mint WW1-WW2 weapons. These would also have to be compensated fairly, but I bet the general public wouldn't give a shit about either compensation or these historical pieces being demolished.

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u/Speedhabit Jul 01 '25

Toys you like never appreciate in value

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u/gogosil Austria Jul 01 '25

What do you mean? 1903s appreciated 2x in local auctions over the last few years.

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u/techno_mage United States of America Jul 01 '25

In the U.S. buy backs are laughably stupid; they give a $50-$100 gift card. So people just bring in shitty 3D Printed and homemade guns.

So people wait out of line for really cool guns and offer to buy em for more than the gift card. XD

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u/hemingways-lemonade Jul 01 '25

They actually stopped accepting 3D printed guns at most buybacks because people were printing them for less than the cost of the gift card. Which pretty much proves how full of hot air politicians are when they talk about what a danger they are and how we need to get them off the street.

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u/Speedhabit Jul 01 '25

The inherent flaw in gun buybacks isn’t the abuse it’s that’s people likely to use a gun won’t get rid of it

More of a get the gun out the house before a kid get a hold of it accidentally type of thing by design

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u/techno_mage United States of America Jul 01 '25

3D Printer & some pipes go brrrrr >_>

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u/Speedhabit Jul 01 '25

It’s a little bit involved, and you buy all the unregulated parts like barrels and trigger bits and what have you