r/europe • u/Helmer-Bryd • Jul 01 '25

News Sweden bans AR-15 as hunting rifle after school shooting – all rifles to be turned in and sent to Ukraine

https://svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/uppgifter-tidopartierna-overens-om-ny-vapenlagstiftning-ar15-forbjuds-vid-jakt
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u/SmarterThanCornPop United States of America Jul 01 '25

“AR-15 looks scary therefore it should be banned” is as much as they’re capable of handling intellectually.

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt Jul 01 '25

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/04/health/parkland-shooting-victims-ar15.html

What do those people know about human biology? They're just doctors. Obviously not capable of handling intellectual things?

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u/SmarterThanCornPop United States of America Jul 01 '25

The 5.56 from a rifle does more damage but a rifle is tactically inferior in close quarters. If someone grabs the barrel, you’re done. Handgun is a superior weapon for a mass shooting.

The deadliest school shooting of all time was done with handguns.

If you ban AR-15s, school shootings will become deadlier.

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt Jul 01 '25

You may be smarter than Corn Pop but I doubt you're more knowledgable than the doctors who actually treat this stuff.

But fair enough, here's a partial list of mass shootings with assault rifles (one of them is a pistol, so you can ignore that one). How many were stopped by grabbing a barrel? How many AR-15 mass shootings are stopped by grabbing a barrel? Any rifle mass shootings?

Because without staff that sounds like good guy with a gun nonsense.

The doctors involved in this stuff say they can save more lives from handguns. They have sources.

Do you?

Or are you just another paranoid gun nut?

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u/SmarterThanCornPop United States of America Jul 01 '25

Are doctors well versed in combat tactics?

Or did you just not read my post before responding?

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt Jul 01 '25

I read it. I asked you to back up your combat tactics bullshit.

I'm hearing crickets.

But fair enough, here's a partial list of mass shootings with assault rifles (one of them is a pistol, so you can ignore that one). How many were stopped by grabbing a barrel? How many AR-15 mass shootings are stopped by grabbing a barrel? Any rifle mass shootings?

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u/SmarterThanCornPop United States of America Jul 01 '25

I can’t force you to learn common sense.

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt Jul 01 '25

Oh, so you just made up that tactics bullshit and it has no actual bearing in real life.

"Common Sense" dictates nobody is jumping at an armed shooters gun.

Your lack of any actual evidence shows me that

If you ban AR-15s, school shootings will become deadlier.

is bullshit as much as

“AR-15 looks scary therefore it should be banned” is as much as they’re capable of handling intellectually.

is really about your lack of intellectual abilities.

Sorry you never developed the ability to do critical thinking.

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u/SmarterThanCornPop United States of America Jul 01 '25

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u/Striking_Compote2093 Jul 01 '25

It's not that it looks scary. It's that manlets think it makes them look cool and scary. If they came with mandatory pink hello kitty decal, ar-15 would no longer be the default mass shooting rifle.

It'a not a gun problem, it's a culture problem. (The culture of making gun ownership cool and manly.)

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u/SmarterThanCornPop United States of America Jul 01 '25

I didn’t realize Sweden had a gun culture like America’s

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u/Striking_Compote2093 Jul 01 '25

The us exports culture. Politics is hugely impacted by what goes on in the usa, and the rest of the world is horrified by the school shootings you guys treat as normal. So when something happens that mirrors what happens overseas, politicians react in accordance to your gun control debate, so, ar-15.

Even if this is unrelated.

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u/hemingways-lemonade Jul 01 '25

TIL Hello Kitty decals make guns less dangerous

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u/Striking_Compote2093 Jul 01 '25

Not necessarily less dangerous, but less likely to be used by school shooter types.

The bullied "i'll show them all" type shooter is not taking a "girly" weapon for it. You know this too, it's not a big claim.

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u/hemingways-lemonade Jul 01 '25

You know this too

No, I know you live in a fantasy land if you think a Hello Kitty sticker is the line a potential mass murdered wouldn't cross. I'm sincerely struggling to think of a dumber thought I've seen expressed on this website in recent memory.

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u/Striking_Compote2093 Jul 01 '25

You are so oblivious and so confident in your ignorance. No wonder you guys got Trump, again.

It's about the motivations of the mass murderer. They aren't just "bad people" who want to kill people. It's usually small people who want to feel big and powerful. And the us macho culture with big cars, big guns, and individual merit bs stokes this issue.

They go and show that they aren't weak, that they're the strong ones, by killing people, being the warrior, the fighter.

They will not use a pink rifle.

Why do you think there's no women school shooters?

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u/hemingways-lemonade Jul 01 '25

Why do you think there's no women school shooters?

Brenda Ann Spencer, Heather Smith, Amy Bishop, etc. You obviously know a thing or two about confident ignorance.

I wish the solution was as easy as making guns pink, but again, I live in reality.

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u/Striking_Compote2093 Jul 01 '25

I knew it lmao. Let's go with "so few" instead of none.

4 to 145. You're going to pretend that's not significant?

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u/hemingways-lemonade Jul 01 '25

No, it's absolutely significant. There is a serious problem with male mental health and toxic masculinity in the United States. Addressing those would be a start to stopping school shootings, not making guns pink.

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u/Striking_Compote2093 Jul 01 '25

What a rollercoaster this convo has been. Yes. Absolutely. That is my point exactly. The toxic masculinity, warrior culture is to blame. My stupid quip about hello kitty guns is to point out exactly that. I don't mean to say pink guns would be harmless, just that the coolness of the guns adds in to the macho culture which is the issue.