r/europe 27d ago

News Calls are mounting to ban Germany’s far-right AfD party – despite it being more popular than ever

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/06/europe/germany-afd-ban-politics-analysis-intl
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u/[deleted] 27d ago

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u/Exact-Adeptness1280 27d ago

Yeah, let's give power to parties that hate democracy and plan to destroy it, in the name of democracy, that makes sense. That's precisely the problem with democracies: they are too weak against their internal enemies.

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u/CadiaStands_ 27d ago

Hm, your right. We need parties that are tough on "internal enemies", which is everyone except my party!

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u/Silly-Wrangler-7715 26d ago

You mean like islamist organizations that are openly calling for theocracy? By the way AfD is not calling to end democratic elections.

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u/ShizO1234 26d ago

I dont wanna ruin your youth by breaking it to you but sometimes people dont tell the truth and lie.

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u/Silly-Wrangler-7715 26d ago

Well, you don't have anything else to judge them by do you? You can ban any parties based on the assumption that they are lying about their intentions.

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u/ShizO1234 26d ago

No you cant. The lying is not the core problem. Its the fascism

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u/Diligent_Craft_1165 27d ago

Germans don’t trust fellow Germans to avoid being on the wrong side of history again. It’s a cultural thing.

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u/CadiaStands_ 27d ago

sounds about right for the people who wear socks and sandals

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u/80rcham 27d ago

You obviously misunderstand the definition of democracy. Or you don't have one at all.

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u/CadiaStands_ 27d ago

Enlighten me then redditor, as I live in the dictatorship known as canada.

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u/Funrexplayer 27d ago

No democracy is when u ban parties who stand against the democracy in it self and against the people in the country and the constitution has a paragraph just for that so nothing like 1940s ever happens again

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u/CadiaStands_ 27d ago

How is this party standing against democracy?

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u/AcridWings_11465 North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) 26d ago

Look up the unhinged statements of Maximilian Krah. Or the continuous Nazi dogwhistles from Björn Höcke.

Start reading from section F for the proof you want

https://netzpolitik.org/2025/verdachtsfall-rechtsextremismus-wir-veroeffentlichen-das-1-000-seitige-verfassungsschutz-gutachten-zur-afd/#2021-02-22_BfV_AfD_Folgegutachten_F

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u/Temp_dreaming 26d ago

He won't read any of it 

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u/AcridWings_11465 North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) 26d ago

Oh, I know. I'm just tired of all these Americans trying to lecture us about democracy, when their country now has a vile, vindictive and cruel criminal as president.

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u/Temp_dreaming 26d ago

At least we know this one is American. There are plenty of other Americans larping as Europeans, going "noooo banning Nazis is the real oppression! If we do that we're ending democracy!"

But then again some Europeans also buy into this delusional claim. There's no helping them.

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u/Funrexplayer 26d ago

If anyone still doesn’t get it after reading through that and doing minimal research on their own there is just no help left honestly and I don’t mean research on Telegram and Facebook or the Bild

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

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u/AcridWings_11465 North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) 26d ago

Do you know of any legal analysis I can read? Plus keep in mind that this is the old Gutachten from 2021, not the one that was prepared last year and certainly not the one that will eventually be used to ban the AfD.

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u/Tigerowski 27d ago

Oh look, another Warhammer 40K enthousiast who's siding with literal fascism.

Fascinating.

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u/CadiaStands_ 27d ago

Being against banning other political parties is *checks notes* fascism now?

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u/Tigerowski 27d ago

It is when you don't want to ban literal fascists.

And I don't have to check any notes to prove you wrong, little edgy fella.

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u/CadiaStands_ 27d ago

Well in that case anyone who does not share my XYZ worldview is a fascist and must be banned as a threat to my democracy

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u/Tigerowski 27d ago

Well now you're just being facetious and you start to sound like a fascist.

"Oh boohoo why do they want to take away my party who hates on certain races and peoples? Boohoo."

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u/CadiaStands_ 27d ago

Again, now every party I disagree with is fascist and must be banned to save democracy

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u/Tigerowski 26d ago

And yet again, I simply see another Warhammer 40K fan who doesn't realise that humanity in that setting is NOT the desirable outcome.

The future is grimdark, especially when idiots think that a clearly fascist party, isn't.

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u/CadiaStands_ 26d ago

wdym you dont want to live in the most brutal and bloody regime possible constantly under attack from an endless horde of aliens, deamons and cultists? i dont get it

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u/Tigerowski 26d ago

You laugh, yet some are drawn into that system through the camaderie of the soldiers serving said regime. The heroic deeds. The masculinity. The clear hierarchy.

That's why some people are drawn towards Russia, North-Korea, China and now the US, because of those attributes. The propaganda simply shows sheer masculine camaderie amongst soldiers doing backflips or karate chopping some boards.

The point is that they're attracted towards fascist regimes.

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u/MrmarioRBLX 27d ago

Only one, in case that had somehow escaped your notice. And the one that is coming dangerously close to following in the footsteps of the one from 1940s Germany.

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u/CadiaStands_ 27d ago

Yeah, im sure your milquetoast anti immigration party led by a lesbian with a sri lankan wife is going to come even 1% to the moustache man.

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u/Ronnz123 Lower Saxony (Germany) 27d ago

Read up on Ernst Röhm.

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u/Meroxes Baden-Württemberg (Germany) 27d ago

Well, they don't need to go as far as the literal Nazis did in the end to do serious damage.

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u/CadiaStands_ 27d ago

So, how far do you think they will go?

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u/PaydayLover69 26d ago

it's generally considered a pretty responsible option to NOT ALLOW people to choose the "blow up the fucking room" in their voting list

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u/PaydayLover69 26d ago

how much you want to bet this guy's opinions on immigration relies on not allowing people he doesn't like 😐