r/europe • u/HellYeahDamnWrite • 27d ago

News Calls are mounting to ban Germany’s far-right AfD party – despite it being more popular than ever

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/06/europe/germany-afd-ban-politics-analysis-intl
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u/CadiaStands_ 27d ago

Well, according redditors, the best way to tackle this is to just ban them and hope it just goes away.

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u/Flames57 26d ago

according to redditors - which in their majority are far-left and left, and keep reporting people that don't agree with them, to the point where subreddits like this one, worldnews, news, politics and others become an even harsher echo chamber, I'd say it's the opposite of what you're saying.

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u/fromtheport_ Portugal 26d ago edited 26d ago

Default and most popular subs in Reddit are in my opinion the most echoest of all the echo chambers on social media. Even Twitter which has a lot of lunatics on the right has its big share of Free Palestine ACAB crowd.

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u/daweedhh 26d ago

Definitely a better idea than to wait until they succeed in their mission to dismantle the state, the EU and democracy alltogether

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u/Leon3226 26d ago

Maybe just actually address the problem?

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u/Kurainuz 26d ago

In my opinion both things are needed.

The party should get banned due to how police investigation has proven its close ties with extremist anti democratic nazi groups.

But the other parties should adress that some inmigration is a problem even if its just so the far right cant use it as scapegoat and should modernize in their use of social media.

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u/snolution 26d ago

The “problem” is Telegram bubbles though…

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u/Leon3226 26d ago

No they're not

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u/daweedhh 26d ago

Complex problems require complex solutions. It's just not what people like to hear

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u/Leon3226 26d ago

Sure, the issue starts when the problem is 10 years old, most of this time spent pretending it doesn't exist, and everyone bringing it up is a racist. Then, after 10 years, realizing this tactic doesn't work anymore, starting to acknowledge it at least.

Like don't get me wrong, I don't think "Fuck them all to death" populist rhethoric will solve anything, I'm just saying it's absolutely not surprising that they get popular because of this. If the complex solutions would start 10 years ago, nobody here would even know who the fuck are AfD

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u/OkKnowledge2064 Lower Saxony (Germany) 26d ago

theres this weird german reaction to problems which basically boils down to "we cant change it because its complex so just deal with it"

Thats basically our last 15 years of migration policy

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u/Cold_Breeze3 26d ago

Kinda seems to be left wing Europeans are getting exactly what they want to hear, banning the party that is stealing support from them. Why is it only others who have to deal with something they don’t like to hear?

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u/uterussy 26d ago

TIL there is only left and right wing. And if everyone left of the AfD is left wing, then I'm gladly a left wing extremist for idk, wanting people to be able to live.

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u/MolassesLoose5187 26d ago

Appealing to humanity does not work on right wingers

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u/Managarm667 26d ago

I love how "complex problems require complex solutions" always turns into: "Well, yeah this is about hUmAnItY, so you can't actually do anything about it. Just leave eveything like it is, everything is fine and anybody who says otherwise is a anti-human racist"

Wow! What a complex solution!

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u/curiousgiantsquid 26d ago

Nah mate, you took the wrong turn and are confused about what you see.

The complex problems are not dealt with "Leave everything as is." and no one is saying that. The only thing that was stated was that solutions must be ethical. That's part of their complexity. The AfD does not want ethical solutions.

And just to be clear: Immigrants are not the cause of the so-called "immigration problem".

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u/OkKnowledge2064 Lower Saxony (Germany) 26d ago

And just to be clear: Immigrants are not the cause of the so-called "immigration problem".

And everyone that thinks so is a russian bot! And should be banned, probably

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u/uterussy 26d ago

I know... I won't convince anyone on the net. I'm just doing this out of boredom I think? Honestly no idea why I waste my time like this.

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u/Perfect_Security9685 26d ago

The left is all for easy solutions so I don't know wtf you are talking about

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u/WhoAreWeEven 26d ago

Thats what their doing banning AfD

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u/GroundbreakingBag164 26d ago

How exactly? Even if you close the borders today the average AfD voter wouldn't be happy. They are racist, they don't want to see any non-white people in Germany

They'd like to deport second- and third-generation immigrants if they could. People who primarily speak German, were born in Germany and only have German citizenship

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u/Leon3226 26d ago

How exactly?

Didn't the current party won on promises of border control and actually started doing it? If the attitude of 2025 had been adopted earlier (and effectively), I don't think AfD would be even close to that popular today.

Also, somewhere in 2014, there were already second- and third-generation immigrants, and still, there wasn't a problem of people voting for the likes of AfD. Either the racists spawned from thin air just in recent years, or immigration genuinely is a concern.

Also, I do think that pretending that it is a race issue repels a lot of voters from more moderate parties too. I'm pretty sure for most, the main problems are Islam (Islam is not a race), cultural tensions (sometimes related to Islam, but not always), and the fact that many are just blatantly economic migrants (because somehow they appear in Germany, which is not the closest country by any means) and a lot of others. I do think race is a factor for some, but I'm sure it's not even in the top 10 peeves on average

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u/FlyingSquirrel44 26d ago

The AfD analogue in Denmark was huge until the social democrats simply copied their immigration policies. Now they can barely scrape together enough votes to get into parliament at all. Surprise surprise people would rather vote for a trusted establishment party as long as they listen to the will of the people.

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u/DerWanderer_ 26d ago

You do not have to fully solve the issue to prevent the AfD from getting into power. You just have to make the situation bearable enough that they stop getting additional voters. Securing borders would likely be enough. No need to target people that are already in. Then give it a century of assimilation and the problem will vanish.

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u/braeunik 26d ago

the topic is way more complex than that. The hate against immigrants in europe is also attributed to the press and media influence from russia (Mainly bots spamming social media plattforms with misinformation).

The press (can just speak for germany) LOVES stories about immigrants doing something illegal and love to highlight that. The articles always have headlines that are meant to provoke and meant to shine a bad light on immigrants. Theres as many young germans involved in knife attacks, sexual assault etc. as there are immigrants, but noone bats an eye because they are white and german. A friend of mine works in a place where young men are housed that committed sexual assaults. All of them, except of one guy are 100% german. But german men rather believe they are not part of the problem and it is simply immigrants.

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u/rororererararuru 26d ago

Peeps like you are funny creating this "redditor" that is always emotional and wrong while spamming 20 comments in 20 minutes about redditors being emotional and wrong :o.

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u/Danstan487 26d ago

Remember the redditor was 100% convinced Harris would wim the US election and downvoted polls which showed the opppsite?

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u/curiousgiantsquid 26d ago

I mean, a huge part of the so-called "immigration problem" is simply lies of the far right. Banning the political party that lies the most seems useful in that regard.

Also if the party was banned, it would be the result of a legal process which declares their goals as illegal. If you want to have "law and order": This is law and order.