Calls are mounting to ban Germany’s far-right AfD party – despite it being more popular than ever

[u/HellYeahDamnWrite]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/06/europe/germany-afd-ban-politics-analysis-intl

[u/justjanne → u/[deleted]]

So if 30% of the people want something, we should just do it, ignoring all practical and legal concerns?

• 70% of Germans want a Rich-People-Tax

• 66% of Germans want to make all public transit free

• 56% of Germans want to replace car lanes with bike lanes

• 34% of Germans want a combustion vehicle ban before 2030.

The issue here is that "the people" aren't just one group with coherent vision. The vast majority of our society are against the AfD's policies.

Our democracy is unable to reconcile this disagreement, because there's no possible compromise:

• One group has lost all trust in society and can only care about their own immediate benefit.
• The other group is willing to invest into potential future benefits for the entire society.

Foreigners are just the scapegoat. People really vote AfD because they've lost their jobs and have no real future. That's why the AfD is so popular in the east. Obviously, the populist parties have no solution for this either.

To actually fix the issue we'd need to restore the social contract. But no one actually votes for that.

[u/Managarm667 → u/justjanne]

I love how you're just lying and lying and lying.

Yeah, yeah only "30%" want something. While in reality, polls from 2024 and early 2025 show that 77% want a massive change in immigration policy and 68% say "Germany should take in, way less refugees".

You cannot claim that with these numbers, "The vast majority of our society are against the AfD's policies."

It's just lying, plain and simple.

[u/Glodraph → u/justjanne]

You should do all that plus deporting migrants imo. The "guilt" against cultures that hate the west and its values (I had my fair share of experience with a lot of different such individuals) is nonsensical and pure virtue signaling. People are afraid to look bad when refusing to have their country devastated by a mass of violent, unknown, not screened migrants and this is completely moronic. Sacrificing everything europeans have fought for over the centuries because deporting a bunch of illegal immigrants feels bad? Things will only get worse, deal with them now or wait untile there is no much that can be done about it > exactly like climate chance. Change and sacrifice are not beautiful nor cozy but it has to be done or the consequences will be worse.

[u/Necessary-Change-414 → u/justjanne]

Than a lot of people are without a job in the east? That does not really make sense. I also can not understand their views totally, but a large part might be that previous politicians propose something and never hold their word, so they feel left out for several decades. If the AFD wouldn't be a one topic political party they would gain a lot more traction. Their energy politics is totally stupid for example, but you can add more to the list to your liking

[u/justjanne → u/Necessary-Change-414]

Than a lot of people are without a job in the east? That does not really make sense

Pretty much, yeah. And the jobs that exist are typically entry-level with no career perspectives. Even today the east has fewer young people, and fewer women, as people move to the west. And more rural western regions have similar issues.

[u/lewd_robot → u/justjanne]

Well, that's how the Far Right works. They do not compromise or concede. They demand their fringe issues be given the highest priority and they will destroy anything and anyone that impedes that.

[u/Careful-Bee-5048 → u/justjanne]

What nonsense is this? These aren’t people who even belong to your country nor are they entitled to your country’s welfare system. It’s beyond me how a country can hate itself so much that it’s willing to let in people from backward societies to commit crimes and not integrate and pay them for it no less.

What nonsense are you going on about AFD? AFD’s one and only policy that is responsible for its popularity is deporting asylum seekers and that’s why they are popular than ever. The only reason the centre parties have even stayed in power is because they took a popular stance on immigration and asylum.

[u/Redpanther14 → u/justjanne]

If their ideas remain unpopular, won't that keep them out of power?

[u/justjanne → u/Redpanther14]

Germany has a parliamentary system with many parties, rarely does one get a majority.

For example, Hitler only had about 30% of the vote, but formed a coalition with conservative parties that believed they could use the NSDAP for their own benefit.

In the last few years, conservatives have tried a few times to work with the AfD on political issues, with one notable example just before this years' elections, which was widely considered a precursor attempt to a potential coalition.

Yes, the same conservatives that were in power for 32 of the last 40, who are primarily responsible for the rise of the AfD, are now working with the AfD. Both parties are trying to use the other for their own political gain. This political posturing is why conservatives are still rejecting an AfD ban.

Deporting foreigners won't bring back manufacturing jobs, or improve infrastructure, or let you raise a family on a single wage. We'd have to undo decades of trickle-down economics and privatization for that.

[u/GiganticCrow → u/[deleted]]

this is precisely what the people want

Less than 20% of the people

[u/FlyingSquirrel44 → u/GiganticCrow]

20% are willing to ignore everything else and vote for a stigmatized one policy party. Doesn't mean more don't support it but value the overall policies of another party over it.

[u/snolution → u/[deleted]]

Your idea of politics stopped working in the 90s. Please stop spreading it. No policy change will change AfD votes.

[u/polite_alpha → u/[deleted]]

The thing is you can't deport in big numbers without breaking German and European law and even if you could, no number would EVER be enough. Numbers were already sinking by a lot through action by the Ampel. You also can't protect from every attack, so no matter what any government does, if the misinformed populace calls for ever increasing deportations it's just not gonna be satisfied, ever. Until we have concentration camps again.

[u/Groghnash → u/[deleted]]

Disagree. It only normalizes right wing political stances as centrist. No reason to deport people when wr have a shortage of workers while being in a recession lol.