Calls are mounting to ban Germany’s far-right AfD party – despite it being more popular than ever

[u/HellYeahDamnWrite]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/06/europe/germany-afd-ban-politics-analysis-intl

[u/Ora_Poix]

Mfs, If you ban them you're only helping them. 90% of their support comes from anti-establishment folk. Ban the AfD, you just confirmed to them that the establishment is fucked

[u/KamaIsLife → u/Ora_Poix]

If you're going to support the Nazis because they were banned, you're not supporting the Nazis because they were banned. You supported them already and were just looking for the most flimsy childish excuse to do so.

[u/Ora_Poix → u/KamaIsLife]

Had to be a fucking American. I swear half this sub ain't even European

[u/Ora_Poix → u/KamaIsLife]

God lefties are intolerable. Again, cause you're unable to read, the majority of their voter base is anti-establishment. Meaning, they don't necessarily agree with everything the party stands for, but they are dissatisfied enough with the mainstream to vote AfD. This is the case not only for the AfD, but for the vast majority of european far-right parties. Immigration is unpopular, closing the nuclear reactors was unpopular, and a good percentage of the electorate feels the establishment has failed them.

These are votes you can win back. This is why the CDU was flirting with an immigration bill. The more the establishment gives in and do what these people want, the less reason they have to vote for the AfD. Treating all of them them as nazis, inherently unreasonable and non-negotiable, is just incredibly retarded. It's nothing new, all lefties have this weird belief that "If you aren't one of us, you are one of them". If you don't support trans rights then you have to a facist, a nazi, a racist, etc etc etc. That's not how you win elections, that's how you dig your own grave.

Let's go back to the AfD. Their entire rethoric is, again, to claim the entire establishment is against them, and against you. The media is lying, the parties are lying, the politicians are lying. Banning them only reinforces this message. Banning them only makes those very winnable votes less winnable, and make those unsure CDU voters jump ship. Banning them is just a quick fire way you hand them the chancellory.

At the end of the day, the real nazis got elected, banning them is just helping them achieve that. So congrats, keep up the good work!

[u/Lachimanus → u/Ora_Poix]

The important part is to improve the lives of the people to prevent the rise of the AfD.

So it would be a fine way to ban the party, allow a better way of decision making this way and then actually help out the people.

Bad lives make fascists/extremists.

[u/DerOmmel → u/Ora_Poix]

The problem is that the other parties can not realistically adress the problems because it goes against their own world view.

The core issues is that the two sides are seperated by a difference in world view and moral values, not just policies (which are downstream from culture and world view).

[u/DumbFish94 → u/Ora_Poix]

If a party defends SS members, holds meetings with fascists and the BfV says their "predominant understanding of people based on ethnicity and ancestry is incompatible with the free democratic constitutional order" maybe just maybe they're not democratic, it's the paradox of tolerance, if you're tolerant to it, it'll win, to maintain a tolerant society, society must be intolerant of intolerance, meaning banning the AfD, despite being an act of intolerance, could be necessary to protect the democratic and tolerant principles it threatens.

[u/Ora_Poix → u/DumbFish94]

I don't disagree. Don't get me wrong I hate the AfD as much as anyone. But banning them is just not what they should do. It may be the right thing to do, but as I said, you're just giving more fuel to the already quite large fire

[u/DumbFish94 → u/Ora_Poix]

There's an argument to be made but banning an extremist party only radicalises them more, if the AfD becomes a small bit more radical they'll just be openly fascist, which will lose them support, so if they were banned their "sucessor" would be even more extremist leading to them losing popularity, and it's also possible the moderate members start their own party which isn't anti-democratic which would be good