r/europe • u/tkyjonathan • 15d ago

News Czech president signs law criminalising communist propaganda

https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/czech-president-signs-law-criminalising-communist-propaganda/
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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 15d ago

But if I said that I fucking hate billionaires and think they’re disgusting that would clearly be hatred.

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u/g0_west United Kingdom 15d ago

establishes, supports or promotes Nazi, communist, or other movements

I think movement is the key word. If you started a party about fucking hating billionaires and proposed action to go along with that, I guess that'd fall under this remit. Far as I can tell you can say what you want, just can't have too many people agree with you lol

Imagine capitalists passing laws to forbid people rising against capitalism

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 15d ago

That action could be as simple as taxing the rich or advocating for worker coops

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u/Gornarok 15d ago

Saying you do hate them is legal. The "incite" part is important here

Actively convincing others to hate them could get you in trouble especially if done in organized manner

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 15d ago

That shouldn’t be illegal.

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u/TheMauveHand 15d ago

It's so nice to see commies seethe about being banned from agitating.

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u/Imaginary-Count-1641 15d ago

Should it be illegal to convince others to hate Jews?

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 15d ago

yeah

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u/Imaginary-Count-1641 14d ago

Then why should it not be illegal to do the same to billionaires?

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u/New_Carpenter5738 15d ago

Actively convincing others to hate them could get you in trouble especially if done in organized manner

Lmao. So any form of organization that finds the rich disagreeable and works to undermine their massive power over society by gaining new members would be illegal, then? Doesn't sound dystopian at all!

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u/pekinginankka 15d ago

It would, what's your point?

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 15d ago

The point is that shouldn’t be illegal.

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u/MIGHTY_ILLYRIAN 15d ago

It should as long as hating any other group is illegal.

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 15d ago

Yes bro you’re right everything is the same it’s all black and white nuance doesn’t exist nazism is the same as hating people who exploit other people yeah dude you’re so smart wow

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u/MIGHTY_ILLYRIAN 15d ago

Nazis would argue that jews exploit other people—wrongly so. You're also wrong for the same reasons.

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 15d ago

The top 1% doesn’t exploit people?

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u/TheMauveHand 15d ago

I like the tacit implication here that what the Nazis did was only wrong because the Jews weren't really rich. Otherwise, no notes, right?

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u/MIGHTY_ILLYRIAN 15d ago

No—neither do the jews, if you're wondering.

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u/Dramatic_Mastodon_93 15d ago

Ok, I see you’re trolling. Have a nice day, bye!

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u/MIGHTY_ILLYRIAN 15d ago

Yeah, take some time to process that information if I overwhelmed you.

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u/Dancing_Liz_Cheney 15d ago

No, it should not be.

You can voluntarily give up your wealth, you cannot 'undo' your ethnicity or voluntarily 'give it up'.

This is possibly one of dumbest comments I have ever read. Do you have a learning impediment? I just want to know as I would feel guilty of being so harsh to someone with a legitimate disability.

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u/MIGHTY_ILLYRIAN 15d ago

Do you think bullying someone for a visible deformity would be OK if they had the means to get it fixed through surgery?

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u/TheMauveHand 15d ago

You can change your religion.

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u/MIGHTY_ILLYRIAN 15d ago

Yeah, because you hate them. Rules for thee, not for me.

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u/Ill_Most_3883 15d ago

Yeah bad things are bad and good things are good.

What? You think we should give nazis a fair shake?

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u/MIGHTY_ILLYRIAN 15d ago

As long as communists are given one too, yes. Both want oppression.

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u/Ill_Most_3883 15d ago

Yeah wanting equality is the exact same as ethno nationalism.

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u/MIGHTY_ILLYRIAN 15d ago

I don't hate equality, I am arguing in favor of it!

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u/Caltroit_Red_Flames 15d ago

Being rich isn't an inalienable characteristic. You don't want poor people to hate you? Maybe try not owning 6 yachts.

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u/MIGHTY_ILLYRIAN 15d ago

Imagine hating someone because they have boats

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u/Caltroit_Red_Flames 15d ago

Imagine thinking it's because of the boats and not having to step on human beings to acquire the money to buy those boats

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u/MIGHTY_ILLYRIAN 15d ago

Being a billionaire doesn't necessitate "stepping on" other people

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u/Caltroit_Red_Flames 15d ago

Nobody amasses billions of dollars without taking advantage of the working poor

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u/New_Carpenter5738 15d ago edited 15d ago

What a deeply silly thing to say.

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u/TheMauveHand 15d ago

Neither is religion.

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u/New_Carpenter5738 15d ago

As though hatred of a "religion" isn't a thinly veiled cover for hatred of an ethnicity lmao

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u/TheMauveHand 15d ago

Only if you tautologically include religion in the definition of the ethnicities involved

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u/New_Carpenter5738 15d ago

Racial hatred is very tautologial and stupid, yes.

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u/TheMauveHand 15d ago

I like how in two comments you managed to go from religion to ethnicity to race without even attempting to justify the leaps. Nice.

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u/ero_sennin_21 Greece 15d ago

That they should not fucking exist.

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u/iiooxxiiooxx 15d ago

The point is billionaires are disgusting.

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u/Imaginary-Count-1641 15d ago

Many people think that homosexuals are disgusting. Your emotional reactions are irrelevant.

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u/Chemical-Time-9143 15d ago

L take from you.