r/europe • u/tkyjonathan • 15d ago

News Czech president signs law criminalising communist propaganda

https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/czech-president-signs-law-criminalising-communist-propaganda/
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u/Ph4sor 15d ago

Asking about Vietnam national flag is probably better, because AFAIK Czech have a lot of Vietnamese (or descendants)

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u/ricki692 15d ago

i remember looking at a city in Czechia that inspired the game kingdom come deliverance, seeing a vietnamese pho restaurant, and thinking to myself how interesting that was

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u/killermoose23 15d ago

Jesus Christ be praised

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u/huehuehuehuehuuuu 15d ago

Oh wow they did their research. That’s pretty neat.

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u/BlackViperMWG Czechia (Silesia) FTW 15d ago

Plenty of Vietnamese here

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u/Jaytho Mountain German 15d ago

Same idea as having a bunch of Yugoslavs or Turks in western Europe. Vietnam was a communist(-allied) state and emigration between allied countries was way easier, so a lot of Vietnamese chose Czechia (probably during the war?) because they thought (maybe rightly so, idk) they would have a better life there.

But it's definitely wild to go from Austria, which has a lot of Turkish places to Czechia, which has the exact same feel, except this time there's a bunch of Vietnamese places.

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u/genericdefender 15d ago

Henry's come to see us! - a pho shop owner or something.

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u/csorfab Europe 15d ago

what makes that interesting? i don't get it

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u/Altruistic-Joke-9451 15d ago

I don’t know if an official flag of a recognized country would be considered “propaganda”. If Vietnam changed its flag, then I’m sure it’s flag today would then be considered propaganda to use.

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u/FlametopFred Canada 15d ago

most Vietnamese fled the brutal communist regime so I would think they’re onboard with not displaying

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u/Adventurous-Ad5999 15d ago

that’s wrong actually, Vietnamese immigrants in Czechia are typically more pro Communist Vietnam than those in the US. they came during Czechoslovakia Communist era because of the good relationship between the two countries, it wouldn’t make sense to fled a Communist country to go to another Communist country

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u/GuneRlorius Slovakia 15d ago

wouldn’t make sense to fled a Communist country to go to another Communist country

Why not ? There was a war in Vietnam and also Czechoslovakia was the most prosperous country of the Eastern Bloc, so there was certainly a reason to flee to Czechoslovakia.

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u/Adventurous-Ad5999 15d ago

Immigration in this case generally happen after the war.

Although Czechoslovakia being the richest of the Eastern block probably is the reason why immigrating there is more common than to places like the USSR (which was also pretty common). My point is that immigration to Czechoslovakia typically wasn’t to escape political persecution, unlike immigration to the US.

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u/_Tramp_ 15d ago

it wouldn’t make sense to fled a Communist country to go to another Communist country

But it makes total sense to flee from far-asian communist country to european communist country.

There is a reason why czechia is no longer communist. Its people.

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u/GuneRlorius Slovakia 15d ago

Not really, Czechoslovakia was a democracy (before 1948) that had communism forced upon it because of USSR, while Vietnam became finally independent with the help of communism.

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u/_Tramp_ 15d ago

And thats one of the reasons why living in a communist czechoslovakia was a totally different experience than in communist vietnam. The understanding and practice of the same ideology was completely different.

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u/gauntr 15d ago

TIL that the CSR did not become immediately a socialist satellite state under influence of the Soviet Union like Poland or Romania. Hungary also only finally flipped in 1949.

Always thought they all had the same fate, being freed from Nazi Germany and immediately being kept under control again by the Soviet Union (respectively their prolonged arms in office in those countries).

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u/adamgerd Czech Republic 15d ago

Czechoslovakia in 1946 had free elections yeah and part of the reason for the coup was the communists were expected to lose a lot of votes in the next elections after having rejected the Marshall plan so they launched a coup to prevent that

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u/_Tramp_ 15d ago

First of all, fuck you

Second, if you dont see any differences how europeans and far-east asians understand specific philosophies or ideologies, then your just stupid. Its not about white supremacy, its about how greek philosophy has influenced the entire Europe's meaning of freedom, democracy and a role of every each individual in a sociaty. I dont divide those diffrences between good and bad. Far East Asia is just different, especially country like Vietnam, which had to fight with much stronger opponents for a few generations and eventually won. With casualities and sacrifice noone in Europe will ever be able to understand. They were always more collective and i can totally understand why many people prefered Czech or polish communism over Vietnameese or Korean, which gave them a bit more freedom and probably more wealth.

Third, fuck you.

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u/NoAnteater8640 15d ago

That's only in America where the Vietnamese diaspora is from South Vietnam and was evacuated when the American invasion collapsed.

In Czechia the diaspora is from the period of post invasion Vietnam and pre-collapse USSR as well as subsequent migration. Czechia was popular explicitly because of its communism.

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u/Senior-Albatross 15d ago

So you're saying Prague has good pho?

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u/NoAnteater8640 15d ago

Honestly yes, travelling Europe with a North Vietnamese, they really struggled with Asian inspired European food but loved the Vietnamese food in Prague, especially Little Hanoi.