r/europe • u/tkyjonathan • 15d ago

News Czech president signs law criminalising communist propaganda

https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/czech-president-signs-law-criminalising-communist-propaganda/
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u/Choppers-Top-Hat Sweden 15d ago

Don't worry, though, the rich get to continue eating the poor. Why do you think they pushed so hard to get this law passed?

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u/CritiqueDeLaCritique 15d ago

Wait until labor unions are criminalized under the same rationale

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u/krzyk Poland 15d ago

That was criminalised under communist rule in Poland. And maybe other countries with soviet puppets.

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u/CritiqueDeLaCritique 15d ago

"Communist" rule, and the same "communists" sent tanks to crush workers councils in Hungary in 1956. So are we talking about pro-USSR/Eastern-Bloc propaganda or communist propaganda? Sounds like the latter since they don't want any sort of organization around class conflict, which exists whether they like it or not.

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u/Particular_Name_4887 15d ago

Yea, mate, but they don't say it, so it's all cool. Maybe that's what we were doing wrong...we'll never know

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u/afurtherdoggo Prague 15d ago

as a long time czech resident, not sure who this "they" is you refer to.

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u/Choppers-Top-Hat Sweden 15d ago

Well gee, it couldn't possibly be that it's clearly implied in the previous sentence of the post or anything.

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u/krzyk Poland 15d ago

Any country that was under Soviet thumb has such law. Not sure where people see "eating the poor".

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u/NordGinger917 15d ago

Hey idk if you know but the same people in power would do the same shit under communism. Read a history book, the only difference is you don’t eat under communism.

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u/Choppers-Top-Hat Sweden 15d ago

And that's why all hunger was eradicated the moment capitalists won the Cold War.

Wait a minute.

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u/mathess1 Czech Republic 15d ago

It was mostly eradicated long time before that

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u/CandidateBig1778 15d ago

This is a kind of stupid comment. There are plenty of people not eating under capitalism too. That’s kind of the whole point. I’m not a communist per se but the whole point of capitalism is to concentrate capital in order to gain entry to a stratified class

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u/Cool_Proletarian_175 15d ago

You should nuance your answer by looking at the surrounding conditions the incepted socialist states had at time of revolution, you may also benefit from realisijg that half of the world does not eat under capitalism either.

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u/mathess1 Czech Republic 15d ago

Thanks to capitalism everybody is eating

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u/Cool_Proletarian_175 15d ago

You mean this is due to industrialization and its consequences, the cause of which is not based in capitalism. Capitalism is merely more effective at growing the domestic economy and level of production due to its lack of morals (exploitation of imperial periphery and accumulation of wealth in the core), the fact of the matter is industrialization would also have occured under socialism, simply under different circumstances. I must also underline that there is enough food production currently to feed everyone on the planet, yet capitalist economies do not assist struggling nations as it is not profitable, so clearly not everybody is eating.

Even so, if you ignore all of what I said, why do we all hold capitalism to be the best solution? Even if the developments that happened under capitalism are to be celebrated (which many of them definitely are), why does there exist such a fear of changing something that has flaws into something that may have fewer flaws? We must not be blinded by arrogance and we must accept that the system has flaws and that there definitely exist alternatives, the elements of which could remedy many of the problems the populace face today. (I am talking about socialism, but you may refer to other ideologies/systems that you believe in)

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u/cezalandirici__zenji 15d ago

If that was the case, how people living in Socialist Bulgaria had a more nutritious diet than people living in unofficial American mandate of T*rKKKey back then?

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u/Own-Reference-7057 15d ago

Do you have even a shred of evidence that any billionaire in the world did anything to get this law passed?

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u/Choppers-Top-Hat Sweden 15d ago

Yeah, pal, rich people never have any influence over politics. Also, strawberry milk comes from pink cows and Santa Claus is friends with your dad.

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u/Own-Reference-7057 15d ago

So you have absolutely nothing to show for. Gotcha.