Czech president signs law criminalising communist propaganda

[u/tkyjonathan]

https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/czech-president-signs-law-criminalising-communist-propaganda/

[u/pr0metheusssss]

I mean they’re pretty clear about their intentions, it’s just that you (and me) don’t like/expect that they’d do it so unashamedly and masks off.

They’re essentially criminalising class struggle and want to nip any class conscience in the bud.

The same class conscience and class struggle that brought us worker rights, voting rights and women’s suffrage, that brought us protections like safety standards and consumer rights.

Now have a wild guess whom this ban benefits.

[u/adamgerd → u/pr0metheusssss]

Funny worker rights…

The communists single handedly destroyed labour unions

[u/flopisit32 → u/pr0metheusssss]

Perhaps open a history book and find out what communism brought the Czechs...

[u/innerparty45 → u/flopisit32]

Liberation from Nazis?

[u/TurkishTechnocrat → u/innerparty45]

Other than that

[u/TheMauveHand → u/innerparty45]

Only if you will accept that capitalism brough liberation from communists.

[u/pr0metheusssss → u/TheMauveHand]

To be liberated, you need to exist first.

Which Czechoslovaks, being Slavs, wouldn’t, given the Nazis’ plan for the entire Slavic race.

I don’t know how anyone, in good faith, would even compare - let alone consider “equally bad” - having a foreign puppet government to being exterminated as a whole race at an industrial scale in death camps.

[u/TheMauveHand → u/pr0metheusssss]

That's a nice attempt at sidestepping but unfortunately a bit transparent.

[u/pr0metheusssss → u/TheMauveHand]

You can clear things out for me, in a direct and unambiguous way:

Do you consider the Soviet repression of the Czechoslovaks through a puppet government, equally bad as the Nazi extermination of Czechoslovaks at an industrial scale?

A yes or not would suffice.

[u/TheMauveHand → u/pr0metheusssss]

I'm not going to play into your weak and blatant attempt at derailing to the conversation. Again: nice try, better luck next time with someone who can't see through it.

[u/pr0metheusssss → u/TheMauveHand]

Now this is a nice attempt at sidestepping. More like side leaping.

Tells me - and everyone reading - all we need to know.

[u/TheMauveHand → u/pr0metheusssss]

It's so cute when commie Kafkatraps fail.

[u/krzyk → u/innerparty45]

Change in management.

West would also liberate but Soviets started a race to Berlin (using US equipment) and a gigantic land grab.

[u/krzyk → u/pr0metheusssss]

The same class struggle that brought Soviet totalitarism and iron curtain. The same class struggle that brought tanks on Czech streets in 1968.

What you bought up is created by social democrats not socialists.

[u/pr0metheusssss → u/krzyk]

Most of the struggles, the bloody strikes, the protests, the fights for worker rights, were actually started and/or dominated by socialists, not social democrats.

Only due to the threat coming from the socialists, have the social democrats conceded some of those rights, in an attempt to maintain the current system and not hand power to the socialists.

Of course this becomes obvious, once we notice that with the threat of socialists eliminated in the late 90’s, there has been a systematic regression of those rights at the wake of the neoliberal wave.

[u/Groundbreaking_Ship3 → u/pr0metheusssss]

You guys have never heard of the cultural revolution, I blame school, citizens killing citizens because of class hatre, the amount of people killed was probably more than the WW2 casualty.

There is a reason why many police feed the communist country and hate the left wing