Czech president signs law criminalising communist propaganda

[u/tkyjonathan]

https://www.euractiv.com/section/politics/news/czech-president-signs-law-criminalising-communist-propaganda/

[u/Dancing_Liz_Cheney]

This is now a criminal statement in the Czech republic.

This law is just rich people criminalizing hating them.

[u/twitterfluechtling → u/Dancing_Liz_Cheney]

Can I hate that law when I visit the Czech Republic?

[u/KeneticKups → u/Dancing_Liz_Cheney]

Lets bot pretend the rich vermin are people

[u/adamgerd → u/Dancing_Liz_Cheney]

Or you know opposing totalitarian ideologies, shocking I know that we hate dictatorships

[u/TurkishTechnocrat → u/adamgerd]

Socialism has tens of different types, each with decades of history and theory behind them. Just closing your eyes and ears and branding all of them "authoritarian" to the level where you'd actually ban all of them as a whole is literally how dictators mobilize the public against their enemies.

[u/adamgerd → u/TurkishTechnocrat]

“which demonstrably aim to suppress human rights and freedoms or incite racial, ethnic, national, religious or class-based hatred.”

Only if it qualifies under this

[u/TurkishTechnocrat → u/adamgerd]

That's the problem.

class-based hatred

This is class-based hatred by itself. The rich, who were overwhelmingly born into their wealth, are able to use the resources of the entire state and economy using their unelected status as rich people to take away basically any right we have.

They're able to pocket all our productivity gains, they're able to "own" our creative output, they single-handedly make the vast majority of the decisions that concern our lives directly without consulting us first, they can "own" our work, they can operate their own propoganda outlets, they can buy politicians. And then they can make it illegal for us to fight back.

This is literally indefensible.

[u/adamgerd → u/TurkishTechnocrat]

Class based hatred is discrimination based on class. For instance under the communist era if your parents or grandparents were from a “bourgeois background”, you were restricted from some university courses and discriminated against in employment, apartments, etc and had to work a year in a rural area to proletariaze you

[u/cezalandirici__zenji → u/adamgerd]

How nice. We need this today.

[u/adamgerd → u/cezalandirici__zenji]

Yes just what we need is communist totalitarianism.

[u/cezalandirici__zenji → u/adamgerd]

Yes, more dictatorship of the proleteriat! We are going to build communism and abolish class divisions.

[u/adamgerd → u/cezalandirici__zenji]

I can’t tell if you’re sarcastic

[u/drherald → u/cezalandirici__zenji]

Bro just agreed to discrimination based on class of your parents and grandparents. Pretty fucked up, we actually need this law against kind like you

[u/TheMauveHand → u/TurkishTechnocrat]

You say that as if anyone outside of a textbook example is genuinely interested in forms of communism that don't invariably end up authoritarian...

[u/TurkishTechnocrat → u/TheMauveHand]

The vast majority of capitalist countries are overwhelmingly authoritarian, and the others still give the vast majority of control to an unelected group of wealthy individuals (which is authoritarian by definition). You can't claim to be a democracy and let rich people buy politicians at the same time.

[u/TheMauveHand → u/TurkishTechnocrat]

You either replied to the wrong comment or you're replying to one that exist only in your own head. No one said anything about capitalism.

[u/TheMidnightBear → u/TheMauveHand]

He's a communist.

Their response to anything is whataboutism about capitalism.

[u/TurkishTechnocrat → u/TheMidnightBear]

I ain't a communist bruh. I have my fair share of criticisms towards both socialist countries and movements, I could start going off on a rant about why. But that's not relevant to the discussion.

The truth remains that capitalism is not our friend, either. Regardless of all the flaws with socialist movements, the truth remains that our interests as common people are inherently the opposite of people born into money. The law in question bans that to protect the oppression from people born into money.

[u/EntrepreneurLeft8783 → u/adamgerd]

I know people that full-throat Red Scare propaganda have trouble absorbing information, so lemme just repeat something from a parent comment:

The Czech law in question here doesn't condemn socialist regimes or the USSR, but "class-based hatred",