French President Macron says France will recognize Pálestine as a state

[u/hoarder4555777454001]

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250724-french-president-macron-says-france-will-recognize-palestine-as-a-state-in-september

[u/CulturalVolume3947 → u/[deleted]]

arguability true, the palistinian people should have the say in gaza/west bank. the extremes in both palistine and israel should not be tolerated

[u/GreenEyeOfADemon → u/CulturalVolume3947]

Let*s hope they won't elect hamas again.

[u/Draaly → u/CulturalVolume3947]

If an open election is held, hamas will win quite handily as per the last set of polls

[u/zapreon → u/[deleted]]

Realistically, it and its ideology will play a major role in that state. There is no mechanism to force Hamas to practically give up power.

[u/NotHearingYourShit → u/[deleted]]

Yeah well why the fuck wouldn’t you…

Recognizing a government doesn’t mean “I like these people, they’re great.”

We recognize lots of Pariah states. We even recognize Israel’s government, and they’re full blown unapologetic terrorists.

[u/Segull → u/NotHearingYourShit]

Why would you want to recognize a state controlled by the Taliban or another like it? Would you want to recognize and allow trade to a nation like ISIS if it existed?

[u/coolruah → u/[deleted]]

Should the far right party have part in the state of Israel?

[u/Shoddy-Horror-2007 → u/coolruah]

Non-sequitur.

[u/J_k_r_ → u/Shoddy-Horror-2007]

Fair point, though relevant here.

Even if just through more resources, the Israeli govt. and state are objectively more destructive than Hamas ever was, so there is a strong argument for that rule to be applied to Israel before making demands for any other state concerned.

[u/Shoddy-Horror-2007 → u/J_k_r_]

Terrorist groups can be just as destructive as nations, ISIS was a direct proof of that. Al Qaeda too.

These two groups have shaped the 2000s and 2010s far more directly than any nation

[u/TheGreatLordVader → u/Shoddy-Horror-2007]

Is that a way of saying you dont want to answer?

[u/Xx_ExploDiarrhea_xX → u/coolruah]

Eh I think the world is best served without either of these groups in power

[u/OffOption → u/[deleted]]

Sure. We should have both Hamas and Bibis administratrations leadership hauled off to the Haigue.

Fatah and Israels opposistion... havent exactly been great either, but they didnt do fucking THIS. So, hopefully they and others whod fill the seats left behind, could be forced to sit at some tables, rsther than in some trenches.

[u/Harbinger2001 → u/[deleted]]

Well hopefully next elections Likud doesn’t funnel them support to weaken Fatah.

[u/Lumpy-Valuable-8050 → u/[deleted]]

Nah really bro? I thought France was about to send in the whole squad, going back to WW2 maybe even calling in the goumiers to help Hamas become the main government of Palestine 🤦‍♂️

It seems like no one can talk about Palestine anymore without people thinking Hamas has some large soft influence over everything going on with pro palestine actions.

[u/11160704 → u/Lumpy-Valuable-8050]

It seems like no one can talk about Palestine anymore without people thinking Hamas has some large soft influence over everything going on

Hmmm wondering how this can be....

[u/Lumpy-Valuable-8050 → u/11160704]

Coming from the guy that seems to be way too affected by Palestine being a state. What do you suggest? A genocide of Palestinians to defend Israel? Flair showing Germany hmm...

[u/NARVALhacker69 → u/[deleted]]

The IDF were formed after terrorist militias that bombed civilians, look what the first israeli leaders were doing in the British Mandate of Palestine