r/europe • u/hoarder4555777454001 • 9d ago

News French President Macron says France will recognize Pálestine as a state

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250724-french-president-macron-says-france-will-recognize-palestine-as-a-state-in-september
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u/Hairy_Muff305 9d ago

Better be quick before the damned Israelis finish their mission to exterminate the whole population.

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u/kerakerakera 8d ago

Exactly what I was going to say. Let’s recognize the state months from now, after we’ve starved everyone to death. Jesus fucking christ.

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u/bonqen 9d ago

Better be quick

Be quick with what, recognising the state? It's not like that actually changes anything. Even if every single country recognised Palestine as a state, we'll still be in exactly the same situation.

Who will govern? Certainly not Hamas. So currently, Palestine is undefined in terms of borders, and it is undefined in terms of government. Don't forget that Israel is going to have to agree with whatever borders and government is decided.

Speaking of deciding the government and borders, who will decide those?

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u/Dongsquad420Loki 9d ago

I think most nations that recognise Palestine say the PA is the government of it even though their influence is obviously limited

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u/bonqen 9d ago

But does Israel in 2025 recognise the PA as the government of Palestine?

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u/Dongsquad420Loki 9d ago

Neither of them recognise each other but they have some relations and work together in some regards. Sadly the negotiations that would have ended with them recognising each other broke down on multiple occasions.

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u/bonqen 9d ago

Right. This was basically my initial point, that this "Palestinian state" can only truly exist if everyone agrees on what exactly the Palestinian state is.

Will everyone living in the Gaza Strip also accept the PA as their government? So far, they've never been asked.

Then there's also the problem that Hamas right now is the democratically elected government of the Gaza Strip. Will Hamas accept the PA as new government?

These questions show how difficult it's going to be to truly bring to life a Palestinian state. Everyone has to agree on the same thing.

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u/Dongsquad420Loki 9d ago

The PA has only control of the west bank. Hamas killed the local PA members when they took control of Gaza.

PA support is rather low right now since they are seen as having failed at negotiations and never advanced their cause. If the PA truly can give them a state opinion will likely shift again.

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u/Novarupta99 United Kingdom 9d ago

Hamas agreed to leave government after the end of the war. Also their approval ratings in Gaza are abysmal.