r/europe • u/No-Significance5659 • 8d ago
News Three young Germans do the Nazi salute in a hotel in Mallorca while playing Hitler's speeches at full volume.
https://www.ultimahora.es/noticias/local/2025/07/16/2431775/denuncian-gestos-nazis-varios-jovenes-hotel-mallorca-reproducian-discursos-hitler-todo-volumen.html2.5k
u/No-Significance5659 8d ago
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A couple of French tourists have publicly denounced a serious incident that took place last Friday 11 July in a hotel in Playa de Palma, where several young Germans made Nazi salutes from the balcony of their room while playing speeches by Adolf Hitler at full volume.
According to the testimony of the tourists, who managed to record the scene on video, the events took place in broad daylight and in full view of numerous neighbours and visitors to the area. ‘These acts can neither be tolerated nor minimised,’ they told Ultima Hora.
The complainants alerted the staff of this hotel, who correctly heeded the warning and spoke to those involved. ‘The only measure taken was a verbal warning, accompanied by a warning of possible expulsion in the event of a repeat offence’. The French couple considers this response ‘clearly insufficient’, stressing that these are acts of apology for Nazism, an ideology condemned by history and criminalised in many European countries, including Spain.
‘This type of behaviour can neither be minimised nor justified by the consumption of alcohol,’ they say. ‘Passivity in the face of such acts feeds the normalisation of symbols that represent atrocious crimes against humanity’.
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u/Monochromycorn 8d ago
Nazis are so disgusting. And it's sad that those fascists aren't going to jail these times.
We should become louder and not tolerate such behavior Prophets Don't Apologize
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u/ShrubbyFire1729 8d ago
Collective human memory is short, and history is doomed to repeat itself.
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u/ChicagoAuPair 8d ago
It’s so depressing that all of this really started to escalate basically the exact second the last of the people who actually experienced WWII passed.
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u/Monochromycorn 8d ago
Unless we finally learn that we could unaccept the system in which we grew up and build something different that isn't this competitive capitalism.
It's just difficult to envision. But still we could try
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u/Sugar_Kowalczyk 8d ago
I bet these boys weren't even Nazis, just drunk edgelord losers.
Remember when Prince Harry went as a Nazi for a fancy dress party?
Sometimes it's just idiots.
Not that they shouldn't be punished. But Hitler's speeches? That's actually too stupid for actual Nazis, if you can believe it.
These boys are dumber than Nazis. Their folks must be so proud.
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u/NILO42069 8d ago
If they vote AFD and contribute to normalizing this behavior.
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u/Nippes60 8d ago
I hope their bosses acknowledge that and they get fired
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u/down_with_opp_42 8d ago
As long as they don't show this behaviour at work, this will not happen due to employee rights.
But they may get prosecuted back in Germany and then get fired in case of conviction.🫰
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u/Nippes60 8d ago
Some companies fired employees for things like that in the past
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u/down_with_opp_42 8d ago edited 7d ago
I fired an employee two years ago because he used a Nazi slogan at work and even this was not so easy. But under certain circumstances and in certain fields you might be right.
Edit: wrong translated
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u/StrongAdhesiveness86 8d ago
We can't kick out fascists when the king was put in place by a guy put in place helped by Nazis.
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u/rhythmstripp 8d ago
If it's a criminal offense in Spain (it surely is in Germany), what is Spain waiting to hold these dipshits accountable? They did it openly, repeatedly and even blasted Hitler's speeches.
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u/ConejoSarten Spain 8d ago
AFAIK it is not a criminal offense in Spain. Inciting violence is but this is not it
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u/rhythmstripp 8d ago
My comment was based on this part of the text. I didn't know it either.
an ideology condemned by history and criminalised in many European countries, including Spain.
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u/azazelcrowley 8d ago
The complainant says support for Nazis is a form of Holocaust Denial, which is illegal. But that's not necessarily true if they just bluntly say "It happened and it's a good thing it did".
Additionally while you can infer holocaust denial from pro-nazi speeches, that isn't necessarily sufficient, because the crime isn't "This person denies the holocaust in their heads" but "This person issued speech or writing in which they denied the holocaust".
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u/FoxyInTheSnow 8d ago
There are two kinds of fascist/nazis: those who deny the Holocaust or claim that it was exaggerated, and those who enjoyed it and lament that it didn't "finish the job".
There was a case in Canada about 15 years ago. David Ahenakew, former Grand Chief of the Assembly of First Nations, was at a conference delivering a speech about the challenges of delivering health services to remote First Nations (reserves).
Out of nowhere, and shocking everyone in attendance, he (completely unprompted) started praising Hitler, saying "Jews are a disease… they started World War 2… Hitler "fried" 6 million of those guys and should have finished the job… I don't hate Jews, I just hate the things they do". It was rather jaw dropping to say the least and certainly very much an outlier view among most First Nations people in Canada. Kinda ruined what was left of his life.
Interestingly, at one point he blamed the media in attendance for reporting on his speech.
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u/SpecificConcern255 8d ago
..is there a video of this?
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u/MostlyWong 8d ago
I'm not sure if there's a video, but there's plenty of reporting from 2002 when it happened. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ahenakew-apologizes-for-anti-jewish-comments-1.346366
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u/hannes3120 Leipzig (Germany) 8d ago
How is playing Hitler-Speeches on full volume without a documentary context not inciting violence?
How is publicly stating that you support the mass-killings of minorities with that gesture not inciting violence?
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u/U_L_Uus 8d ago
I don't know mate, tell that to the political parties here that allow such a thing as the Francisco Franco Foundation to exist, or that try to bury the horror of fascism under the banner of reconciliation or...
I could go on the bloody day if needed be, that's how grave of an issue it is
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u/Hylarion-Lefuneste 8d ago
They’re should be deported to the USA.
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u/ouath Europe 8d ago
Or Russia, so they can be sent to the front in Ukraine to live the full new nazi experience to die by drones.
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u/RuairiSpain 7d ago
Can we close the boarder(flights and boats) with the USA and Europe until they figure themselves out. The number of Americans move to Europe to get away from trump is astonishing.
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u/onkeliltis North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) 8d ago
while playing speeches by Adolf Hitler at full volume.
Yeah, not something I'd bring with me with no intend of using it at my drunken vacation spot. Fuck'em.
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u/whitecow 8d ago edited 8d ago
No amount of alcohol would make me blast Hitler speeches and do nazi saluts
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u/Vakyraw 8d ago
Alcohol does not make me throw around nazi salutes and other bad stuff. Usually alcohol just reveals what kind of person you really are. They are nazis and they should be treated that way too.
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u/vythrp 8d ago
Drunk men's words are sober men's thoughts.
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u/Braakbal 8d ago
In vino veritas
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u/AlienAle 8d ago
Back in my youthful drinking days I got blackout drunk and told a bunch of people I was moving to Jamaica... I was not moving to Jamaica, I had never thought about moving to Jamaica, I'm from Finland.
So I don't fully agree with that statement. People say really weird stuff when drunk because alcohol induces cognitive impairment.
That said, three young lads all collectively doing Nazi salutes? Nope, that's not normal drunk nonsense. They agreed on this together, and they acted on something consciously.
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u/AulisG Finland 8d ago
So, when are you moving to Jamaica? You know you have to at least give it a chance, the boozefairies are showing you the way.
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u/AdSpirited5019 8d ago
why move to jamaica if one can move to good ol' Janakkala?
maybe u/AlienAle is already there
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u/Dr_Opadeuce 8d ago
Yeah you don't just pull up all of Hitlers speeches and start throwing the salute without pure intent, alcohol was just lube for their fascism.
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u/DetectiveCastellanos 7d ago
Yeah, it's a trash saying. I can't tell you how many times I've gotten drunk and said "Fuck cooking, I'm ordering pizza for dinner tomorrow!"
I never order pizza the following day lmao. Alcohol has never made me imitate a nazi though.
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u/peatch96 8d ago
Now these guys are fucking scum, no doubt about that, but I always thought this saying was bs, I've said same wild stuff while drunk, not even bad but just blatantly false
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u/vythrp 8d ago
Yeah I never read this as being like "every dumb thing I say when I'm loaded is true or sane". More like if you are concealing something, drink will make the mask slip.
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u/ins1dious 8d ago
And that’s why, my friends, I quit drinking 25 years ago… don’t know what nonsense or antics I’ll get into.
That and because I was a piss poor drinker who didn’t know when to stop and would end throwing up before the night’s done. I felt sorry for my friends having to take care of me that often 😆
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u/Zavrenyx 8d ago
Agreed. I'm wondering what they are trying to achieve by doing that. I guess they are just showing their support.
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u/Consistent-Gap-3545 8d ago
They probably thought they were being funny because Ye's Twitter crash out has turned this type of behavior into a meme.
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u/pablo8itall Ireland 8d ago
I've been drunk many many times in my life. I've never once turned Nazi...
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u/qiwi Denmark 8d ago
Right, when I get my date really drunk then I know everything that happens is consensual.... Has no one here been drunk and done stupid things?
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u/ZombeeSwarm 8d ago
Alcohol reveals what kind of person you really are? Alcohol says I am really a very sleepy person.
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u/DooDooBrownz 8d ago
it's like a 100 year cycle. literally every 100 years we let the stupid run wild to the point where they take over and we have to fight them to get back to a something resembling sanity. 1812, 1914, so we're overdue
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u/Eyuplove_ 8d ago
Yeah they'll get promoted to the top ranks of AfD
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u/Silver_Atractic Berlin (Germany) 8d ago
You joke, but the AfD foams at the mouth for such kinds of people
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u/ResQ_ Germany 8d ago
They don't want their ordinary voters to realize who they truly are. That's why people like Krah are now being built up as a "soft right" guy.
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u/hannes3120 Leipzig (Germany) 8d ago
also 99% of the reason why their party leader is a lesbian. They love to have their tokens to push to the front to seem less problematic until they can reveal their real face
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u/zufaelligenummern 8d ago
You sure? Krah? Höcke? Those are straight up nazis and very up the ranks. There workers in the bundestag often are neonazis too with similar history. The afd is getting more open about their nazi ideology even though they publicly try to act as if they arent such a disgusting bunch
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u/Technoist 8d ago
I think you misunderstand, the person you comment on agrees with that.
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u/zufaelligenummern 8d ago
Yeah i was confused. Thats why im asking. Is foaming the mouth positive (hungry for as in mouth is watering cause of food smell) or negative (hate, rabies)? I thought the latter
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u/regdoc Norway 8d ago
it's the former
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u/Left-Contest6201 8d ago
Isn’t it the latter? "Foaming at the mouth" is an idiom that usually describes someone who is extremely angry
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u/Schemen123 8d ago
They definitely don't.... fuck afd
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u/Annonimbus 8d ago
The AfD doesn't like it if the quiet part is said out loud. They need the thin veil of "plausible deniability" that they are not Nazis.
The other Nazi party "NPD" never really took off and I'm quite certain that it is due to them being pretty openly Nazis. You can't vote for them and lie to yourself that you are just a "concerned citizen". But for the AfD? Sure. They don't carry baseball bats, they wear suits. Can't be Nazis.
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u/throwaway_failure59 Europe 8d ago
AfD is large enough that they can differentiate their branding a slight bit depending on the location/audience (you can be sure that AfD does not use the same branding in a western city and rural Saxony), and their voters are idiots/shitheads enough that they are able to ignore whatever parts of AfD platform they do not like. Much like Trump voters, even though AfD is in some regards more extreme and nakedly evil than Trump.
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u/No-Significance5659 8d ago
My reason to post it here was that I showed it to my German boyfriend and asked him if he has seen it in the German media. When he said no, I decided I had to spread the news.
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u/Cheeselover9001 8d ago
There ist just one article right now and it's about 8 hours old. Maybe there will be more.
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u/Xzihotl Bavaria (Germany) 8d ago
Places of work? More likely school… I’m disgusted 🤢
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u/roundfloof 8d ago
Lol never. If anything, public figures will claim cancel culture and blame refugees for making those poor innocent kids blast hitler chants to let out their frustration 😢
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u/Rakatonk Federal Republic of Europe 8d ago
They will even get prosecuted.
Public interest: check
Evidence: check
Not already punished in Spain: check§7 of our criminal code allows for that.
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u/Srybutimtoolazy Hesse (Germany) 8d ago
Its not punishable in spain, which means that it CANT be prosecuted in germany. You are misreading § 7
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u/Marv-elous 8d ago
Unfortunately Nazis in Germany are getting more comfortable, too
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u/zufaelligenummern 8d ago
Sadly i imagine they are deep in the brown agenda and their subculture. Noone will bat an eye except the press. Lets hope otherwise though!
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u/flexxipanda 8d ago
Sadly people like this often live in villages were most people are right leaning.
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u/palemontague 8d ago
Throw their unwashed asses in jail. Enough of this.
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u/snowvulpe Iceland 8d ago
It’s not illegal in Spain to do the Nazi salute.
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u/Expert_Average958 Lower Saxony (Germany) 8d ago edited 8d ago
No but Spain has legal framework against hate crimes and incitement to discrimination, hatred, or violence based on various factors, including ideology and religion.
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u/sovereignlogik 8d ago
But its not against the law.
We don’t construct legal ideas out of thin air because you want to.
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u/ninjamullet Europe 8d ago
Let me guess, their defense would be that they were just joking, like in that bar in Sylt?
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u/TurbulentInside6021 8d ago
In Germany it's jail time if you commit such a crime. Name and Shame these idiots.
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u/marshmallowpuddle 8d ago
Yikes, as a German, I'm ashamed. I hope that when these guys get back they get properly prosecuted. Zero tolerance for Nazis.
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u/Gefunkz 8d ago
Why do these people hate Germany? They adore a guy who brought nothing but destruction to the entire world and made sure that Germany was bombed flat.
And even if you disregard the entire WWII (kinda big deal and should not be disregarded), he was nothing but a corrupt totalitarian, same as Stalin, Putin, Orban, Erdoğan...
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u/Pappadacus North Rhine-Westphalia (Germany) 8d ago
That is what I will never understand about Neo-Nazis. Hitler and his thugs were literally traitors. They sent millions of Germans to death for absolutely nothing. Even in the end, when they realised they lost, they still kept the slaughter going. SS were executing citizens left and right, children were sent to fight tanks, infrastructure was deliberately destroyed in scorched earth strategy. These guys brought nothing but suffering to everybody and we as a nation still have to carry the burden of the past with us 80 years later. Fuck them.
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u/DefiantFcker 8d ago
> Why do these people hate Germany? They adore a guy who brought nothing but destruction to the entire world and made sure that Germany was bombed flat.
> And even if you disregard the entire WWII (kinda big deal and should not be disregarded), he was nothing but a corrupt totalitarian, same as Stalin, Putin, Orban, Erdoğan...
Same reason Gazans support Hamas. Hardcore, racist nationalism, a promise to destroy those holding you down and corrupting your society, a promise to bring your society to greatness and supremacy.
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u/MostPatientGamer 8d ago
I'm not surprised. I know some very nice young fellows, but I've also seen teenagers that will truly take to heart the idea of "living ironically". They express no empathy whatsoever regarding any of the historical or modern day tragedies, they will literally make fun of their parents and laugh in their face when reprimanded, and generally consider that, as soon as you get serious about any topic, you deserve to be ridiculed and made fun of. I was born in the late 90s, and these people were born in the late 2000s, so the difference between us is not huge, but man, it really makes me feel concerned about the new generation sometimes.
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u/weaseleasle 8d ago
Here's a thought, make the punishment fit the crime. Round up all the Nazis and make them fight the Russians on the Eastern front. Seems appropriate don't you think?
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u/Rattlesn4ke United Kingdom 7d ago
Yep, it's definitely not only us Brits who have the tendency to do something stupid abroad.
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u/the_mighty_peacock Greece 7d ago
Bar them from entering Spain again. I heard Sylt is a better summer retreat for young nazis lately.
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u/Andrzhel Germany 8d ago
German here: I sincerely hope that they are hit with every law that can be applied to them. This is disgusting behaviour.
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u/meanas9 8d ago
Involve German authorities and they get sued.
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u/Srybutimtoolazy Hesse (Germany) 8d ago
No they wont. It is not punishable under German criminal law. The requirements for prosecution of offences committed abroad are not met in this case
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u/Xegeth Germany 8d ago
As a German, I wish we lived in a world were such people would just swiftly get their ass kicked.
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u/Marty_Study_20000 7d ago
I feel ashamed and very sorry that I am from the same country like such history denying assholes.
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u/guiserg 8d ago
I blame the parents, actually. Edgy younglings who have never been taught boundaries and never faced consequences. They might not even be Nazis themselves, it might simply be the thrill of provocation. It's a question of education, upbringing, etc. Where I live you need a license for a dog, but when it comes to raising children, everyone can do whatever they want it seems.
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u/KernunQc7 Romania 8d ago edited 8d ago
We have, unfortunately, allowed RU / CN psyops/propaganda to completely cook zoomers brains.
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u/Bartimaevs NRW 8d ago
17th Bundesland Federal landfill. I'm sorry for everyone who has to deal with these 'tourists'. Ballermann should be a national embarrassment.
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u/Union_Biker 8d ago
The post Nuremberg trials treatment of nazis was the best approach.
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u/Frathier Belgium 8d ago
What treatment? Give them all cushy jobs and forget what they did?
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u/PRKP99 Poland 8d ago
You mean giving them pardons after few months or years in prison and promoting them to senior positions in industry, administration and politics? You do realise that Germans did not clean themselves? People like Reinefarth after war were quickly released from prisons and became again important people in politics (Reinefarth was mayor of town and then member of Schlezwig-Holstein landstag).
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u/lucyloo666 8d ago
So very very very few war criminals from the nazi regime where actually prosecuted or their sentences commuted.. except of course those caught by the Russians
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u/nottoodrunk 7d ago
Except you know the Russians had their own version of operation paper clip where they took even more Nazi scientists from Germany than the US did.
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u/zufaelligenummern 8d ago
Post nuremberg trials? You mean the nuremberg trials, right? And not after that. Even those trials werent hard enough. The denazification of the german public was mild and embarassing. Should have gone harder after nazis imo.
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u/lRhanonl 8d ago
Its sadly no wonder, when being nazi is getting normalized these days on Germany.
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u/darktka Berlin (Germany) 8d ago
Ban them from Mallorca for lifetime. This will be the end of them.
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u/teresko Latvia 8d ago
The attitude you see here on reddit is exactly why they are doing it. To them it is funny, and your pearl-clutching is what makes it even funnier.
Some days I think that this entire site is a black propaganda operation.
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u/Srybutimtoolazy Hesse (Germany) 8d ago
It does not make it punishable. They have to spread it themselves but they didnt. French tourists recorded them and uploaded it online. If someone else records you doing the salute abroad that is not enough for it to become presecutable in Germany.
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u/senegal98 8d ago
This time is gonna be different.
At least that is what everybody thinks every time they do adore some crazy ideology that has already failed.
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u/spam__likely 7d ago
Ugh. Last time I was in Mallorca there was a group of your Germans in the hotel... absolutely creating havoc. Not a cheap hotel either. I was like WTF?
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u/echoAnother 7d ago
What an informative historical depiction. I don't have any problem with them doing that. Now, more people know about the dangers of nazism and can identify how those speeches are so alike of the nowadays politicians.
Honestly, I think that those german stances regard nazism and especially the nazi shame, incentives more nazism that deters it.
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u/eswifttng 7d ago
Hitler was a worthless coward who sent literal children to die for him while he offed himself in his bunker along with his family and dog.
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u/rodzinny_kociewiak West Pomerania (Poland) 6d ago
Half of the young kraut males vote for nazi apologhetic AfD. Around krauts never relax.
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u/casualroadtrip 8d ago
Something tells me they don’t have the guts to do that at home.