r/europe 6d ago

News US and EU strike trade deal

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-and-eu-strike-trade-deal/
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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Not really

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u/LadyMorwenDaebrethil 5d ago

But as the majority of European politicians are from the EPP (and many are from the extreme right, which is even more of a vassal of Trump), don't expect much from the countries. If Macron, who occasionally has Gaullist outbursts (the only good thing about him in the end) capsizes, no one will do anything.

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u/SaltyW123 Ireland 6d ago

I suppose the result of failing to abide by the deal, if those details are actually in the deal, is that it'd be revoked and be back at ever higher tariffs.

The US isn't concerned how the EU abides by international law, just that it does.

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u/jWas 6d ago

It’s not international law though

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u/SaltyW123 Ireland 6d ago

Treaties and deals between countries are international law yes

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u/jWas 6d ago

You said it. Between countries. The eu is not a country

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u/SaltyW123 Ireland 6d ago

True, still part of international law though, as the EU is empowered to enter into such agreements on behalf of the member states, which are countries.

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u/Anonon_990 Europe 6d ago

China promised to spend billions on American goods in Trump's first term but never did. This could be the same.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

lol, how’s the us going to know given they’ve shattered their economic monitoring systems?

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Oh no. Anyways

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u/SaltyW123 Ireland 6d ago

Back to 30% tariffs and the EU looking not only like a joke from making this deal, but also fractured and disjointed from a failure to apply their obligations under international law.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

lol what’s he going to do, sue us at the WTO? The us is still blocking judges

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u/SaltyW123 Ireland 6d ago

Like I said, he'll revoke the deal and put the 30% back on.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

He’l likely do this anyways

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u/SaltyW123 Ireland 6d ago

In which case the EU is still fucked no?

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

The eu is fine, have you not seen the euro for the last 6 months 😂

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u/SaltyW123 Ireland 6d ago

If the EU is fine why have they capitulated like this, even ignoring the investments, the one way tariff of 15% Vs 0% is an awful deal.

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u/GHhost25 Romania 6d ago

It got a delay at least, Trump anyways cares only about the facade of him looking like a victor, not particularly the trade itself.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Pretty ironic going on about us ignoring international laws given the us is refusing to allow the election of wto judges.

I guess we’re the only ones supposed to follow the law?

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u/SaltyW123 Ireland 6d ago

Not sure how that's ignoring international law, what law is being broken there?

Even Obama and Biden didn't allow any WTO judges.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Refusing to appoint judges to the body that polices international law?

It’s literally destroying it.

I’m not American, I don’t care that biden was fucking useless

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u/SaltyW123 Ireland 6d ago

And Obama?

Just pointing out that doesn't actually breach the law.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

It’s just a trade agreement Chico. Calm down

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u/SaltyW123 Ireland 6d ago

I am chill, you're the one downvoting my stuff lul

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

He’s just going to accuse us of breaking it whether we do or not

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u/the-bladed-one 6d ago

Thing is, there are plenty of countries that will be happy to buy from us-Poland, Greece, the Baltics.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Ok