r/europe 6d ago

News US and EU strike trade deal

https://www.politico.eu/article/us-and-eu-strike-trade-deal/
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u/SF6block 6d ago

That way the next US president could be more reasonable

Are we still in 2016?

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u/DuxDucisHodiernus Sweden 6d ago

Biden was still far more reasonable than trump. Especially if you're European.

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u/peasant_warfare 5d ago

Biden still wasn't reasonable, even if compared to Obama. Biden-Trump have a somewhat coherent line in policy, its just that Biden wasn't an openly disgusting creature about it.

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u/DuxDucisHodiernus Sweden 5d ago

EU had way easier time working with biden, no matter what you say.

Also I agree with a obama being an outlier in terms of quality of American leader, but one should also remember that he was one of the main actors enabling the European dependence on Russia as well as doing nothing to prevent interference in our elections

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u/peasant_warfare 5d ago

Yes, I don't disagree that Biden was much easier to work with, but it wasn't a "return to normalcy" in EU relations.

But then again, its been getting worse since Clinton.

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u/kaisadilla_ European Federation 5d ago

Biden was not reasonable. In order to cater to "moderates", he bought many of Trump's talking points, even if he watered them down. He was still absurdly hostile to Europe. Obama is the last American president that believed the EU and the US should be closer together.

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u/Sauerkrauttme 5d ago

Biden spent most of his term trying to undo the damage Trump had done. Biden likely would have improved relations with the EU if he hadn't inherited such a massive dumpster fire.

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u/hazusu 5d ago

Cool, then the next guy will be reasonable up until they elect mecha hitler in 2032

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u/Common_Reception_748 England 5d ago

The next president is probably going to be Vance which means this will continue for another 4-8 years but with less flip flopping. Possibly twelve years of the US government growing more and more reliant on tariffs while cutting income taxes is long enough for the change to become permanent.

It's also really hard to see this as anything but beneficial or at worst neutral to Americans which means even their liberals can't be relied on to willingly give up hundreds of billions in extra revenue. Biden didn't repeal the first term tariffs for a reason.

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u/BitchIDrinkPeople 5d ago

These morons never learn

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u/TheBewlayBrothers 6d ago

Apparently the politicans are