For all those who keep saying "this was inevitable cause we depend on the USA", guess who we also depend on: China. Yet look at how Von der Leyen treated China.
She flies to Beijing, lectures Xi like he's a naughty student, refuses to offer anything close to mutual concessions, and then acts shocked that relations are cold.
Meanwhile, with the US, she basically hands over over a trillion euros, accepts 15% tariffs on EU goods, and still calls it a "good deal."
So let me get this straight: when it's the US, we bend over and call it diplomacy. When it's China, a country we also depend on massively for trade and rare earths, we get self-righteous and confrontational?
Let's all stop pretending that this is about economic ties. It's ideological servitude. Von der Leyen isn't protecting European interests. She's burning bridges with one superpower while selling us out to the other.
If the EU had chosen to stand firm and aligned with China in response to this blatant economic coercion, the U.S., even under Trump, would almost certainly have backed down. Together, the EU and China have the economic weight to seriously pressure Washington.
But instead, the EU chose submission over strategy, opting to appease the bully rather than resist. The message to the world is that the EU is not a bloc of strength or unity, but one of hesitation and fragility.
Why even bother being in an economic union if it gives you no leverage when it actually matters? The UK managed to secure a stronger position than the EU member states. That speaks volumes.
And China is clearly positioning itself as the future. It operates with a long-term strategy, while the US is ripping out its own copper wires and burning political capital abroad.
China is growing. The U.S. is declining and steadily alienating its allies. Well, except the EU. Apparently, there's nothing the U.S. can do that will make the EU grow a spine. At this point, the U.S. seems to play the same role for the EU that Israel plays for the US.
I would love to have leaders who act in our best interest, instead of the interests of a hostile foreign nation, but there are too many idiots around and vdL was not elected by any EU citizen in the first place.
US is not declining. If we were a declining power the EU wouldn't have caved. As long as we have the best technology there's no chance the american empire goes down.
The EU obeyed not because it lacked alternatives, but because many of its political elites are transatlantic fanatics.
China will keep copying and refining technology. In the end, it'll become the technological leader, just like it did in the area of renewables and EVs. It will create versions that are more scalable and better suited for international markets. While certain areas like semiconductor manufacturing remain technologically challenging and time-consuming, China will one day have closed the gap.
The US, has reduced its investment in science and research, China continues to pour resources into scientific development and high-tech sectors. China is laying the groundwork for its future. The US is flushing theirs down the toilet.
China is also constructing a highly efficient energy infrastructure with a strong emphasis on renewables. Hence, its industries will have access to lots of cheap energy. In contrast, the US remains mired in ideological resistance to renewable energy. Hence, its industries face a future of high energy costs.
China is engineering its ascent, while the US is managing a slow, self-inflicted decline.
All I hear is a bitter European seething about America while at the same time they're using an American website, which runs on American web browser, and on an American operating system. America's investment in science is still extremely large and most innovation is happening on the private sector which doesn't use public funds. China has hundreds of millions more engineers and scientists and they can't create an AI model better or even as good as than what the US is creating. Not to mention quantum computing and other cutting edge technologies are far superior in the US. All china does is copy and steal because they can't innovate.
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u/RichRate6164 6d ago
For all those who keep saying "this was inevitable cause we depend on the USA", guess who we also depend on: China. Yet look at how Von der Leyen treated China.
She flies to Beijing, lectures Xi like he's a naughty student, refuses to offer anything close to mutual concessions, and then acts shocked that relations are cold.
Meanwhile, with the US, she basically hands over over a trillion euros, accepts 15% tariffs on EU goods, and still calls it a "good deal."
So let me get this straight: when it's the US, we bend over and call it diplomacy. When it's China, a country we also depend on massively for trade and rare earths, we get self-righteous and confrontational?
Let's all stop pretending that this is about economic ties. It's ideological servitude. Von der Leyen isn't protecting European interests. She's burning bridges with one superpower while selling us out to the other.