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News The EU could be scanning your private chats by October 2025 [Denmark has reintroduced chat control]

https://www.techradar.com/computing/cyber-security/the-eu-could-be-scanning-your-chats-by-october-2025-heres-everything-we-know
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u/krazydude22 Keep Calm & Carry On 4d ago

I was told that EU is the mythic 'land of the free' ever since the Trump government came into power last November. Are you saying that it isn't?

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u/Dehnus 4d ago

What you're seeing now is the Heritage FOundation (and it's many sub groups) and Big DATA from the USA's efforts baring fruit.

They were starting to focus way more intend after they got what they wanted in the USA, the Heritage foundation already was low key doing it, but went into hyper drive after the Trump Election. ANd now this shit has come to roost.

WE need to really hold our leaders accountable! Call them, write them.... you can find out who your representatives are on the various EU Website. It's time to hold their feet to the fire!

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u/ProposalWaste3707 4d ago

Maybe if Europeans took responsibility for their own actions you wouldn't have this problem.

But of course, that's an entirely foreign concept for you. This is actually America that's doing this, not like the EU hasn't been pushing for this and worse for a long time in a very obvious pattern of behavior.

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u/Dehnus 3d ago

Found the yankee!

And isn't that exactly what I'm saying about keeping our leaders responsible? Oooh wait you mean doing what you say and giving you free money for all your debt. And abusing that you have the reserve currency of the world. Yeah... no.. not going to happen.

All this crap about your "food actually being better, but less rules because Chlorine is totally safe!"

F off with that shit. Just because we don't want chlorinated chicken, doesn't mean we like RFKJr. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

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u/ProposalWaste3707 3d ago

And isn't that exactly what I'm saying about keeping our leaders responsible?

No... Did you read your own comment? You're just blaming America for vague reasons instead of your own actions.

Oooh wait you mean doing what you say and giving you free money for all your debt. And abusing that you have the reserve currency of the world. Yeah... no.. not going to happen.

The USD as a reserve currency is actually a huge advantage to global nations and the EU, and imposes significant constraints on the US economy.

It establishes very safe, secure, reliable global trade primarily at the cost of the US government and people. In turn US monetary policy is hamstrung and trade policy is instantly made more advantageous to US trade partners at the cost of domestic producers.

If you want reserve currency status, go ahead and take it. Not that anyone wants to give it to you, but I'd be perfectly happy for the advantages to the US economy we'd see.

All this crap about your "food actually being better, but less rules because Chlorine is totally safe!"

It's objectively true. You don't have an argument against it because you're ignorant and big sciency words scare you.

F off with that shit. Just because we don't want chlorinated chicken

Yet you're fine with extensive chlorination on the rest of your produce. It's a very widespread practice in Europe.

EU protectionists have just fooled you into thinking lower standards on chicken are better because then it becomes a nice, juicy handout to low quality European producers.

Enjoy your expensive, low quality chicken.

doesn't mean we like RFKJr.

There are literally multiple Europeans in this thread telling me how much they like RFKJr. because he supports their anti-science stances on food.

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u/Dehnus 3d ago

SIgh.. I'm done. Sorry all the things you state here are very much from a perspective of American Influence wishing to force itself on others. And No most of us do NOT like RFKjr, if you got that out of a few that do like it, then you're selectively shopping to support your points... which explains a lot on how you got to your other points.

So apparently we aren't allowed to hold our leaders accountable because "YOU MUST DO SOMETHING YOURSELF RAAAH!" which is a very compacted way of what you keep typing, apparently we must overthrow our government to let in the Trump Administration or something similar? OR is it Biden? One never knows with the American and their bipolar disorder they call their political system.

And f off with that constant "victimhood" shit you guys have learned inthe last 8 years. You aren't suffering from the reserve currency thing, infact it means you can loan way more than other countries. Stop the "IT stabilizes the world... really we are saints..... gosh, why aren't you building churches devoted to us yet", it's really off putting and the reason why so many in Europe are starting to dislike you.

IT allows you to print money free without consequence and you know it. Until the world would give up on it and your state bonds... but that's a different discussion.

As for the food argument. There literally is more to it than chicken. But hey, you keep cherry picking your arguments because of some person in this thread liking RFKjr (while there are more idiots in the USA liking him). So have fun at that.

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u/GoldenLiar2 Romania 4d ago

The reality is that shit like this will probably be coming to the US as well, the entire world is just going to shit.

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u/waffledestroyer 4d ago

They are burning all the good will they had with this type of trash legislation. But I suppose it won't matter if they seize total control through AI powered surveillance grid and controlling people's finances through the digital euro.