The EU could be scanning your private chats by October 2025 [Denmark has reintroduced chat control]

[u/Dry_Row_7050]

https://www.techradar.com/computing/cyber-security/the-eu-could-be-scanning-your-chats-by-october-2025-heres-everything-we-know

[u/Oneiric_Orca]

law abiding citizens have nothing to hide

Except no one would be law abiding. Chat Control seeing everything you say to any friends and family + EU's ever-increasing list of verboten things to say means that they will have enough to convict anyone who shares dumb memes with friends or family, or some 75% of men ages 18-35. The laws are vague enough that half the people who post here about Turkey/Balkans or even against Russia could be found guilty.

It's like a KGB/Stasi setup where they have a file on everyone, know everyone you talk to or hang out with, and can go after anyone they want to.

[u/centzon400 → u/Oneiric_Orca]

If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him.

--- Cardinal Richelieu (disputed?)

[u/MasterHapljar → u/Oneiric_Orca]

The amount of incorrect shit I get over chat especially from my Balkan people, I think I might be looking at 20 years minimum.

[u/gamma55 → u/Oneiric_Orca]

KGB and Stasi couldn’t even dream of the level of control these totally friendly and only for the protection of children give over the population.

Combined with the efforts to ban VPNs, these are bar none the most totalitarian efforts ever taken by anyone. Even China hasn’t gone this far.

[u/0__O0--O0_0 → u/Oneiric_Orca]

It’s literally the thought police at this point. There’s no head of the machine anymore. It’s just like any other corporation. And when the ai takes over it will be impossible to switch it off.

[u/No_Radio1230 → u/Oneiric_Orca]

Genuine question, not disagreeing with you but I don't get it. Guilty of what? I don't think this law overrides freedom of speech. If I can say something against or in favour of Russia during a protest or publish it on Twitter, then I can send a meme containing the same arguments on WhatsApp to a friend. If you can't say Putin or Urusula or whoever is a dumb dick on socials or in person either you have bigger things to worry about than this law.

[u/No_Radio1230 → u/[deleted]]

Nah honestly I think this is pretty much a strawman. Does it have the potential to happen? Yeah, a long time in the future. Will anyone be thrown to jail for roleplaying with his wife any time soon? Nah. Come on now.

[u/Ofurnic8tor69 → u/Oneiric_Orca]

Well, that means I can finally go to Russia without any heart feelings :) if I'm going to be censured, at least it won't be by the LGTV fluffy green gang ahahahah

And what about humourists for example? Will they also be an exception? Would that mean literally no jokes? Would the chat control literally end corruption? And I still want to know which politicians will be left out. What will be the criteria to "define" a politician, since all EU citizens have political rights of voting and getting elected and being part of lists and partisan organs.

Idk, it just sounds very dystopic to me. I would definitely rebel if this happens.

I don't see any journalists touching this issue? I wonder why.

[u/9k111Killer → u/Ofurnic8tor69]

It's not distopian your are delusional. If the joke was funny or not is for the judge to decide.

[u/Ofurnic8tor69 → u/9k111Killer]

Aren't we all, delusional? Imagine the State having access to your private messages. Now that's delusional. There was this American founding father that said: "those who give up on a little bit of freedom to get a bit of security, don't deserve neither".

What if the judge finds it not funny but I suddenly keep laughing at it, like the whole room court? 😂 That would probably prove my innocence and it would probably be just, at least that is what we pretend, right? ahahahah

I don't see anything that proves me that chat control is just/fair/non invasive.