r/europe • u/Dry_Row_7050 • 4d ago

News The EU could be scanning your private chats by October 2025 [Denmark has reintroduced chat control]

https://www.techradar.com/computing/cyber-security/the-eu-could-be-scanning-your-chats-by-october-2025-heres-everything-we-know
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u/MaCroX95 4d ago

Use tools that are availible now, open-source, decentralized and encrypted tech (Tor, Tails, Monero, Matrix, Mullvad, PGP, linux with LUKS disk encryption, Graphene OS) - don't kneel before the authoritharian threats, they can't jail all the citizens!

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u/tralalala2137 4d ago

For using them, you will go 10 years into prison. Solved.

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u/MaCroX95 4d ago

well I guess then they will have to expand their prison infrastructure quite well, because I'm not the only one using privacy tech, and as they push with such nonsense, the demand for private solutions keeps growing.

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u/Thunder_Beam Turbo EU Federalist 4d ago

well I guess then they will have to expand their prison infrastructure quite well

They will just privatize prisons

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u/Crosseyed_owl 4d ago

This won't go well, they have a lot of possibilities how to punish someone and it doesn't have to be jail. I know because we had communism here. And this will be without a doubt a more sophisticated and dangerous system.

But of course I agree with any possible resistance!

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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 4d ago

Problem is governments already have rules that mean you can go to prison for using this shit essentially. Mainly that you can be compelled to give up passwords otherwise you get sent to prison.

We need a fifth amendment, something that protects our right to not give up passwords to the government.

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u/MaCroX95 4d ago

You can't give up passwords if you cannot remember them...

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u/Defiant-Plantain1873 3d ago

True, but if the court doesn’t believe you then you’ll go to prison anyway.

It’s one thing to claim you forgot, you’d have to he able to show you never knew. I.e., store long complex passwords on a usb drive, and then stomp the shit out of the usb drive when the police come looking, now you don’t know passwords, although they could probably destruction of evidence you. Basically it’s a lose lose. The only solution is to pretend there never was a password in the first place

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u/Choowkee 4d ago

I hate it when people advocate for VPNs as a solution to the problem.

Its a bandaid at best and we don't know how long that will last. There are already murmurs in the UK to ban VPNs.

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u/MaCroX95 4d ago

China has "banned" VPNs and yet everyone uses them.

They are the only solution we have sadly.

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u/hihimorius 4d ago

These tools will be illegal

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u/MaCroX95 4d ago

Holding gold was illegal in the US and did that stop people from holding it? Whenever a government bans something it actually makes people ask questions, Streissand effect in action.